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mariska: ancestry from Nagymorichida
I am trying to find genealogical research on the family name of Csanig. Antol Csanig emigrated to Canada in 1920 and his wife, Barbol came with three children in 1924. I am having a terrible time trying to locate any information on Nagymoricida and on the Csanig family. Any help would be appreciated.
2005/08/17, 22:02:51
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kezdi: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
mariska,
No wonder, the spelling is changed and the placename discontinued in 1928, when Nagy...=Big and Kis...=Small united as follows:

Ceased locality name
Name of locality concerned
Nagymórichida
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Unification of localities
Name of localities concerned Year of unification
Nagymórichida Kismórichida = Mórichida 1928


With this interactive Map of present day Hungary it's easy to find Mórichida [doesn't work with the Mozilla browser]:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/moterkep/mb.htm


You can still find Nagymóriczhida on these early 1900s County maps of Hungary, in Győr County, in the green colored Sokoróaljai-j.=district, as N. and K. móriczhida: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm


From RADIX Place search:
Place Status County (1913) District (1913) Current country
Nagymóriczhida kisközség=village Győr Sokoróaljai Hungary


If you want to research church records at LDS/FHLC(Mormons), have to know the religiuos affiliation. The village had Luth. Church, R.Cath. records are with Arpas, Ref'd Calv. with Takacsi, Izr. with Tet-Szentkut.

Hope this helps, and let me know if you have any question.
Greetings from California
Joseph



2005/08/17, 23:26:28
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mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Thanks from Joseph for the help. I can't find Gyor Sokoroaljai in the list of places. Not sure if I'm doing this right. The family was Catholic. So not sure where to go as I don't understand what Arpas, Ref'd Calv. with Takacsi, Izr. with tet-Szentkut means. I can't speak Hungarian, unfortunately. Any further help would be appreciated. I found their naturalization papers today on the Canada Immigration website - his name was Antol and his wife was Barboll Csanig. Received naturalization in 1932. That's all I have on them.
2005/08/19, 00:49:44
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mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
I noticed the name in the alphabetical list is Csangi. I may have misspelled it. The name is Csanig. Can you please correct this. Thanks.
2005/08/19, 00:52:50
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kezdi: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
mariska,
You're welcome. I can't change names, but it doesn't matter because your message only links with Places :: Morichida [Nagymorichida] and not Csanig. Perhaps start a new tread Csangi-Morichida[Nagymorichida], or even better I start it for you after this message.

To make it easier, I already picked Győr county from the list with this link. All you have to do is look for the green colored Sokoroaljai-d. written across, and for N. and K. Moriczhida on left side. Next to them you'll see Arpas village, where the R.Cath. church was located:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/gyor.jpg

Next I give you the LDS/FHLC website where you can find your nearest (Mormon)Family History Library Center, and can order the Church records on microfilms for few dollars, and also to find the appropriate Film numbers for Arpas: FamilySearch.org - Family History Library Catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
I already looked up the 3 Film numbers for Arpas, you just have to give it to the LDS/FHLC. But, in case you want to be familiar with the process, just fill in arpas at Place Search, and follow the links to Romai Katolikus Egyhaz than until see View Film Notes button in the upper right corner.

Római Katólikus Egyház, Árpás (Main Author)

Location Film No.
Kereszteltek 1721-1801 Házasultak 1735-1801 Halottak 1735-1766, 1771-1791 VAULT INTL Film 630564
Kereszteltek 1802-1895 VAULT INTL Film 630565
Házasultak 1802-1895 Halottak 1791-1895 VAULT INTL Film 630566
[Keresztetek=Christened, Hazasultak=Marriages, Halottak=Deaths]

Countinue on the Csangi-Morichida tread.

Joseph

2005/08/19, 04:21:05
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 Morichida_[nagymorichida] - Csangi fórumban: kezdi: Csangi
mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Great information! Thanks so much. I will go to the LDS family history centre tomorrow - they're open then. Hope I can find some information on the family. I haven't had any success finding the name anyplace on the site. I found a reference to a Ursula Casnig married 22 Nov 1723 in Lieseregg, Kaernten, Austria. Father is Jois Casnigcat and mother is Catharina. Spouse is Georgius Feichter of Lieseregg, Kaernten, Austria. and an Eva Casnig or Lasnig christened 28 Apr 1691 Maria Landskron, Villach, Kaenten, Austria. Father listed as Rupert Casnig or Lasnig and mother is Barbara. These are IGI Individual Records from a form submitted by a member of the LDS Church (1999-2002). Do you think the Csanig (Csangi) family was originally from Austria? And do you think these people could be related given their names - Casnig and Casnigcat? Source information lists batch number, sheet, source call no. type of film. Would this be the source infomation stored at the Church of LDS or an IGI Index unrelated to the church information? Once again, thanks for the great help.
2005/08/19, 21:42:13
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kezdi: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
mariska,
You got to go step by step, no point to jump all over the place. For instance, if you're not sure about Csangi, stay with Csanig until you do, just keep an eye on both names when searching thru the Church records. Which name your ancestors used in Canada.
Just because Csanig is not on the RadixSurname list, doesn't mean it's not a valid name, and the Casnig and others are way down the line at this time.
Actualy, I found Csanig in the 1810-1830 western Hungarian nobles list, which includes Moriczhida, so you could be on the right track with Csanig. I copied here for you the beginning part of the list until Csanig.

From Arcanum Adatbázis Kft.
http://www.arcanum.hu/arcanum_online/index.html

könyvészet =|= OSzK Kézirattár =|= Latin nyelvű kötetes kéziratok =|= Quart. Lat. =|= Quart. Lat. 2709.

"Collectiones genelogicae nobilium familiarum regni Hungariae, congesta per Franciscum Csergheő Inclytae Tabulae Distructalis Transdanubianae assessorem. 1810-1830." Tabellae genealogicae.
Csergheő Ferenc kézírása. 174 f. 210×170 mm. A kötet a következő családok genealógiáit tartalmazza: Bánfy, Batthyán, Barakonyi, Baracskay, Bárdossy, Barna, Csanády, Csenczy, Cziráky, Czirián, Dalmady, Danich, Domanyay, Deli, Deső et Liger, Diosy, Dobo de Ruszka, Döry, Ebeczky, Eörsi, Farkas, Földes, Fördös, Gorup, Gosztonyi, Gutkeled, Győry, Győrfy, Gyovay, Harrach, Harrukern, Hajas, Henning, Hera, Herberstein, Hidvégi, Hochburg, Hodos, Hollossi, Horváth de Szaladér, Jurasics, Kéri, Karonai, Kinszky, Koltay, Komjáthy, Konszky, Koronthali, Kozma, Königsberg, Kun, Leben, Lőrintzfalvay, Magocsy, Makolányi, Martovszky, Matyasovszky, Mátay, Mesko, Miskey, Motesiczky, Nagy de Halas, Nagy, Nedeczky, Ocskay, Okolitsányi, Orehoczi, Ordódy, Ortzil, Palasty, Paleolog, Pálfy de Baracska, Patsolay, Pezei, Pétsi, Pethő, Pethő de Pethőháza, Polgár, Prainberg, Pronay, Puchaim, Porkoláb, Quendel, Ráday, Récsey, Ranch, Rosty, Sinyey, Söptey, Széchényi, Tiborcz, Toldy és Marsóvszky, Tömösközy, Trautson, Tulok, Unruh, Uzovics, Wohlmuth, Vincze, Vörös, Zarka, Szénásy de Bályok, Zeleméri, Aika, Althan, Aranyady, Aradi, Asztalnak, Baray, Balog, Baracskay, Bartza, Béki, Bezeredy, Bödögei, Csapody, Csányi, Cse, Csergheő, Csernavoda, Daniel, Debretke, Döbröntei, Dőry, Deső de Nagy-Emőke, Dörögdy, Falusi, Fekete, de Füred, Gérczei, Hanibal, Hegyi, Henzelfi, Hliniczky, Ják, Jaksics, Iványcs, Kecskemety, Kaczor, Kolosy, Kelcz, Kencsey, Kerék, Karcsay, Koppányi aliter Székely, Lauschák, Majláth, Nyáry, Nozdroviczky, Pinyei et Szalai, Poka, Pázmándy, Tizsó, Svastics, Szalay, Szántoházi, Szili, Tömörkényi, Uhi, Bacskady, Daniel, Ebergény, Eötvös, Ebergényi, Francsics, Györi, Hetyei, Hernáéth, Izdencky, Jankovich, Krajnai, Mesteri, Szapáry, Tegyei, Tulmon, Tercsy, Kiss, Török, Bucsai, Damka, Gibard, Keresztury, Nagy de Szalapataka, Rávonyi, Zajgár, Asztalnok, Balog, Boronkay, Boros, Bornemisza, Csuty, Chomor, Daroczy, Forintis, Farkas de Besse, Fercsák, Fördös, Gyely, Gyarmathy, Haly, Hertelendy, Jolath, Keresztury, Kesserü, Koroknay, Kaman, Lampert, Lorant de Inke, Magocsy, Maracz, Majthényi, Moyses, Nehen, Névery, Olgyay, Pakany, Paksi, Pálfy, Pavitics, Parys, Radoczi, Ransar, Rado, Soos, Sallér, Szecsődy, Tarrody, Tilay, Vidos, Vitnyédy de Varad, Zele de Zent Balás, Zel aliter Kaldy, Zykkel de Vys, Aranyos, Abranh, Babos, Baranyay de Bodorfalva, Boros de Rákos, Beiczy, Beleznai, Bako de Davod, Banfy, Bajaky, Boncz de Egeralya, Bödey, Chaholy, Chire, Czuzy, Cziráky, Csanig,
2005/08/19, 22:31:05
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kezdi: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
mariska,
Csanig looks solid now. I checked the Hungarian phone directory, and it lists 10 Csánig, one of them in Mórichida, and all the others in the surounding Counties. You could write to them, starting with Otto.
http://www.tudakozo.t-com.hu/main?xml=main&xsl=main

Csánig Ottó [In Hungarian last name goes first]
Town: Mórichida 9131
Street, square: Béke utca 9
Phone number: (96) 369-105


Also lists the village of Csánig, which makes the nobility list even more credible:

Csánig Községi Önkormányzata[Csánig Village Selfgovernment]
Town: Csánig 9654
Street, square: Kossuth Lajos utca 7
Phone number: (95) 376-000


Place Status County (1913) District (1913) Current country
Csánig kisközség=village Vas Sárvári Hungary

On the Hungarian County Maps website I gave you previously, look for Vas County, than Sarvari-j.=district.

Good luck,
Joseph
2005/08/19, 23:07:46
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mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
This is such helpful information! I found all sorts of information on the village. I also ordered the microfische for the family name for church records in Arpos. And I will write to Otto Csanig to see if he is a link to our family. Thanks so much.
2005/08/21, 02:23:30
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Casnig: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
I can help fill you in on the Csanigs of Canada - I'm the grandson of Antol and Barbol.

There's also a small village of the same name.

John
2005/08/31, 22:46:26
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mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Hey John,

You Tony's son? You've been out to our house! Send me your email address to csanig -k-u-k-a-c- rogers -p-o-n-t- com and come for a visit! Anne is coming down in September. A & V
2005/08/31, 23:43:25
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mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
I was willing to pay for research in Hungary but sent two messages. I'm not sure why the response didn't come through and hoped it wasn't blocked. The names I'm interested in are Csanig and Turek. Also didn't hear back from John. Please respond if you are on this forum. Thanks. Mariska
2005/09/14, 18:14:09
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Casnig: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Sorry for the delay. Yeah, I'm Tony's youngest. My mother, Barb, is in Hungary for three weeks as we speak.

I doubt I have anything to add to the search, as I see you're way ahead of us on this. You can find the town of Csanig on a map, and in it there is apparently a single church. If you've not tracked it yet, it may yield a few answers.
2005/09/14, 18:39:41
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Sethra: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Hi Mariska,

I can't figure out who you are, I know I'm related as John's my cousin. And as you knew that A.Anne was coming down narrows it down a lot... Anyways, if I find out any new info I'll let you know.
2006/01/26, 23:30:44
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Mariska: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Email me at csanig at rogers.com and tell me who you are. I have copied half the church records from the Arpo church but haven't had time to finish it. Hope to hear from you in an email.
2006/01/27, 02:30:43
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Richard Casnig: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
my grandfather was Antol Csanig, his wife was Barbol, first daughter Maria, first son Anton, 2nd daughter Anne?, many other children, emigrated to Canada in the 1920's, settled in Lake of the Woods (Rainy Lake/River area)

would like to hear to from you

Richard

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Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2006/12/17, 06:16:51
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v959961: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
2007/07/03, 20:10:37
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v959961: Re: ancestry from Nagymorichida
Hi John,
Don't know if you will receive this message. It's Judy, your Aunt Margaret and Uncle Roy's daughter. If you receive this message, write back.
2007/07/03, 20:12:25
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