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Radix: 1:75000 map
Whoever might be interested in this. It's the 1894 update of the 1880 1:75000 scale military map of the region around Sárvár, Kiscell and Beled.

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2003/07/09, 17:11:21
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Wnovak: Novak in Papoc
I am interested in finding anyone who has knowledge of the Novak family from Papoc. I understand there were two unrelated Novak families in the village. My grandfateher, Alajos Novak, emigrated from Papoc to USA about 1906. His sister, Dezso Somogyi, lived in the village until her death about 1988.
2004/03/28, 05:48:19
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Marika: Re: Novak in Papoc
I was researching Papoc when I came across your message. I have a contact here in the US who routinely talks to family in Papoc. I can ask him to mention the Novak and Somogyi names you gave from the village.

The Papoc I am familiar with is near Sarvar and also near Kenyere.
2004/03/28, 21:18:03
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Szabó Endre: Re: Novak in Papoc
Egy kép a szülő falumról.Szívesen segítek ha a több infót is megosztanál, pl melyik utca.

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2005/01/22, 20:33:21
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W. Novak: Re: Novak in Papoc
This past spring I was able to attend a wedding in London of a friend from Papoc. Her family from Papoc was also there and they were able to fill in much information about my family. Turns out the firend is something like a 6th cousin!
2005/01/23, 01:55:34
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W. Novak: Re: Novak in Papoc
Thank you for the photo. I remember the center of the village from when I visited Papoc in 1975. I fact I stopped at the Catholic church and tried to find records of my ancestors, but without luck. We did make contact with the Figder family at Vasar ut. 13. They are a distant relative of mine and I was able to attend the wedding of their daughter, Eva, in London in April 2004.

W. Novak
Arlington, Virginia USA
2005/01/23, 01:59:25
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Marika: Papoc
I really appreciate receiving the aerial view of Papoc. I remember the 13th century church and 12th century monastery where all the monks were slaughtered by the Turks. I made the picture my wallpaper. We have been there a few times. My family is the Lukacs-Csiszar with a Pécsi connection. My father Pécsi, Lajos was raised there, but his family was from VasSilvagy.

Mr. Novak, I too know Eva Figder. Correspondence with her ended in the early 90s or so. I would be interested in knowing whom she married in London. Prior to that had she furthered her education? What type of work was she doing? She makes an excellent translator.
2005/01/23, 06:05:11
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MBV: Novak, Somogyi
My gr-gr-great-grandfather was Ferenc Keszei (1830-?). His sister was Eva Keszei (1827-?). She married to Papoc, to Peter Horvath in 1851. One of their children, Tibor Horvath (1865-?) married Matild Somogyi. They had the following children: Rozalia (1891) and Maria Horvath (1894).

Peter Horvath and Eva Keszei youngest child was Mate Horvath (1869-?) married Lujza Novak in 1895, Papoc. I don't know anything about their descendants.

Do you know anything about this two family?
2005/01/23, 18:52:38
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W Novak: Re: Papoc
Marika,
Eva is living in London right now but still has an apartment in Budpapest. Both her mother (Marika) and father (Elemer) were at the wedding in London last April. Eva has just finished her PhD in history at the University of Pecs. Please contact me off line with your full name and e-mail address if you want me to pass those on to Eva and for more information about her. My e-mail is: wjnovak99 at aol.com

Bill Novak
2005/01/31, 03:06:35
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W Novak: Re: Novak, Somogyi
Dear MBV,

My great aunt was Somgyi Dezso, maiden name of Novak. She was my father's aunt. She was born in 1900 and died in the late 80s in Papoc. She married a Dezso but I know nothing about him. I do know there were two spearate unrelated Novak families in Papoc. Lucza Novak does not ring a bell at all. My grandfather, Alajos Novak, left Papoc about 1905 for the USA and married a Hungarian woman (my grandmother) in Ohio.

W Novak
2005/01/31, 03:14:53
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jenyingi: Re: Papoc
Marika, I read with Interest about the aerial photo you have of papoc... may I enquire as to where you recieved it?

I am just beginning my search on Papoc, and relatives there with the surname Takacs.

thank you. J. Enyingi
2005/03/10, 05:20:37
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Jensgen: Re: Novak in Papoc
I have been researching family from Papoc as well and have access to parish records from 1748-1896. I know it's earlies than the names that you are looking for but I did find a Dezso Novak born in 1883 Dezso is not a common name on these records actually it was the only Dezso Novak I found so it could possibly be connected to your line. However Dezso is a male name but here's what I found. I hope it helps.
Pius---B-6 Oct 1874, D-27 Oct 1874
Colomannus---B-13 July 1876, D-27 July 1876
Emericus---B-16 Nov 1878
Rozalia---B-7 Dec 1879, D-3 May 1888
Josephus---B-14(christened 15) Sept 1881, D-28 April 1888
Dezso---B-4(5)June 1883
Maria---B-20(21) April 1887
Rozalia---B-5(6) Dec 1889, D-10 Dec1891
Jozsef---B-29 Dec 1891

Parents:
F-Laszlo (Laudislaus) Novak B-3 Sept 1841
M-Rosa Somogyi B-9 Oct 1857

Also found their Address as Szt Miklosfa 1
2005/07/07, 00:14:04
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Marika: Re: Papoc
Here is the website for aerial view of Pápoc.

"http://www.radixforum.com/pictures/200501806.jpg"

Enjoy viewing it.

Marika
2005/07/08, 01:15:18
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Marika: Re: Novak in Papoc
Would you be kind enough to check your records of Papoc for any information on my great-uncle:

Lukacs,Gabor

He was a huszar in W.W.1. I have postcards he wrote in 1914 to Papoc, to my grandmother, his sister.

Supposedly he died in Siberia.

2005/07/08, 01:21:03
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jenyingi: Re: Novak in Papoc
Jensgen, can you email me directly with the details of the information you have on Papoc please. I am very interested in knowing more. Please click on my profile to email. Dezso Novak is my maternal grandmothers brother. There was another brother Joseph, and sister Viktoria. Thanks, Julie
2005/07/09, 05:35:18
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Attila Horvath: Re: Novak in Papoc
I grew up in Papoc from 1968 to 1988. I have a 175 page book written on the history of this small Hungarian village. My parents are still living there and they know everybody in Papoc. I knew Eva Figder very well. If you guys need help to find your ancestors or relatives I can help.

Attila Horvath
Toronto, Ontario, Canada
(519) 749-0205
notebookdealer -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- ca

Ha emlekeztek meg ram irjatok.

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2005/07/17, 07:05:25
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Attila: Re: Novak in Papoc
Here is a recent map.

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2005/07/17, 07:18:58
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Attila Horvath: Re: Novak in Papoc
Papoc Phone Book

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2005/07/17, 07:50:51
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gal enikö: papoc
Hello everybody- Papoc born people! It was really nice to
find this forum. I m also from Papoc,Ok- not directly, but my parents and grandparents and the whole relatives "pápciak ".) Now I m living in Vienna, and spend mostly the weekends in Papoc.Sárvár u. 66, - the house of my grandparents.
My grandfather / and 3-4 previous generations was/were the ...( gŕtör )Dobos Mŕrton, my mother, his daughter Dr. Dobos Teréz and my father Dr Gál László, ( see book
about Papoc.

Bucsu: Do you know ,that bucsu is this year 6-7. August ??? Who of you will be there ???
Attila Horváth: Could you contact me, pls ?

Have a nice week.

2005/07/27, 13:21:32
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Marika: Papoc Booklet
Mr. Horvath,
Is the book you featured on Pápoc available for sale?
I know you gave your E address; perhaps others are interested.

Marika
2005/07/27, 14:02:48
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davtram: Re: papoc
Kedves Enikő és "pápciak"!

Nekem annyi kötődésem van Pápóchoz, hogy nejem dédanyja volt oda valósi. Mindig foglalkoztatott a kérés, hogy a keszői és a pápóci Dobosok között volt-e kapcsolat. A kutatás során erre nem derült fény.

Amit tudok:

1895-ben Pápócon házasodott a keszői Dobos János Kis Oiliával. Otilia szülei Kis Imre és Bozsoki Borbála. Otiliának volt egy Pius nevű testvére, kiből plébános lett Szentbékkállán.

Lenne-e kiegészítő információjuk a fentiekhez? Ismereteik szerint a fenti Kis családnak lehet-e leszármazottja Pápócon?


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2005/07/28, 04:59:45
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Attila Horvath: Re: papoc
Dear Marika and all those who are interested in the book above!

I don’t know if this book was ever sold in stores. My parents sent me a copy by mail soon after it was first published. If I am correct, the book was distributed through the Papociak Barati Kore. Eniko & Timea Gal are active members of this group and they can probably tell you where to get your copy.

Once I asked permission to scan the whole book and upload it to the Internet and I was told that it is O.K. since the book is not copyrighted. But this is a tremendous job. My keyboard doesn’t have the Hungarian characters and the Optical Character Recognition software is rejecting almost every word it doesn’t recognize and trying to replace it with an English one.

It would probably take a couple of months to complete this project unless I find a software that can recognize Hungarian words. I am afraid it would be easier just to sit down and type the whole thing from cover to cover.

If the book is out of print we need to find out how many more copies are needed. Nowadays publishers don’t even willing to reprint anything under 1000 copies and it wouldn’t be cheap either.

If someone out there could help me out I would be more than happy to run the book trough my scanner and we could convert it into an Adobe Acrobat or Microsoft Word format and distribute it that way.

Please let me know if you can help.

Attila

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2005/07/28, 06:13:35
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Attila Horvath: Pictures

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2005/07/28, 06:23:36
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Attila : Pictures
2005/07/28, 06:24:23
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Attila Horvath: Pictures

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2005/07/28, 06:26:06
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Attila Horvath: Gal Eniko
Eniko

Kuldtem egy email-t arra a cimedre ami a gyaloglo.hu cimtaraban van. Gondolom azota mar uj cimed van mert a levelem vissza jott par percent belul. Irjal tee s en majd valaszolok

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2005/07/28, 07:12:43
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jensgen: Re: Novak in Papoc
2005/12/28, 05:22:02
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jensgen: Re: Novak in Papoc
Julie
I am sorry it's taken me so long to respond. I have tried to contact you through your profile, but am unable to do so. If you haven't already found this information I would like to help please E-mail me at jensgen -k-u-k-a-c- hotmail -p-o-n-t- com thank you.
2005/12/28, 05:25:07
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sziasztok! szeretném felveni pápociakkal vagy régi pápociakkal, illetve akiknek szülei/ nagyszülei/dédszülei vagy bármilyen rokona ott lakik/lakott. kérlek irjatok e-mail cimem: pumania -k-u-k-a-c- freemail -p-o-n-t- hu, msn cimem: szotyi_baba@hotmail.com
2006/02/19, 12:32:04
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