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hammernhank: Bereg

My father, Vilmos Grunberger, may have been born in this town. It is in the Bereg Didtrict.

Hank Greenberg

06/08/2003, 23:33:52
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Kristo: Re: Bereg

01/09/2003, 10:39:29
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kristo: Re: Bereg

Hallo do you speak German? My family was born in Bereg too. I live there when I was a child. It`s an nice village, and very friendly people. Did you ever been there?

01/09/2003, 10:45:39
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kristo: Re: Bereg

Hallo do you speak German? My family was born in Bereg too. I live there when I was a child. It`s an nice village, and very friendly people. Did you ever been there?

01/09/2003, 10:45:43
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kristo: Re: Bereg

Hallo do you speak German? My family was born in Bereg too. I live there when I was a child. It`s an nice village, and very friendly people. Did you ever been there?

01/09/2003, 10:45:48
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jjudio: Researching Praschinger

Family name Praschinger, Prashinger, Prassinger, Prasinger - American spelling Brassinger, Brashinger. Grandfather, Anton Prashinger dob l-21-1881 Beregh, Hungary. His father Conrad Prashinger (Prasinger, Prassinger) dob 7-13-1853 in Beregh.Married Marianna Pfaff (Maria Pfaff) from Kullod) 1-17-1876. Conrads parents - Mathias Prasinger & Christina Schauer(Sauer). Marianna's parents were Antonius Pfaff & Julianna Schilling. All of Anton's brothers and sisters came to the U.S. except Stephanus Prassinger dob 1-5-1879. I am looking for any information before l853 and also if there are any living family members of Stephans'. I understand he had a son and a daughter but have no information on their names or wifes name.

24/12/2003, 02:44:37
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Zlatica : Re: Bereg

The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at :
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Bereg county
Most of the Bereg megye/county is in Ukraine.
There was a town Bereg in Bacs-Bodrog megye which now is in Yugoslavia.
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm (mapquest)

www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm

One listing for GRUNBERGER(OVA) female in city of Kosice,Slovak Republic.
www.zoznamst.sk

24/12/2003, 03:23:03
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hank: Re: Bereg

My parents were born in Hungarian and spoke Hungerian and Yiddish. My father's name was Vilnos Grunberger and I guess that is German. My father put down Komjat as his place of birth on the Ellis Island records and Bereg on his Naturlization Papers. This could have been the county of Bereg so it is confusing. My mother was Miriam Davidovich and was born in Bilke and I cannot find any of her immigration records. We believe she come in through Philadelphia. Since all records are in the Ukraine I am going crazy to get any information from there.I tried Google and Steve Morris town records and nothing came up.

Hank Greenberg

25/12/2003, 22:41:00
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Hank: Re: Bereg

My parents were born in Hungary. My fathers name was Vilnos Grunberger and his Ellis records said he was born in Komjat and his Naturalization papers stated Bereg. This may be the county. It is confusing. My mothers name was Miriam Davidovich and she was born in Bilke. I cant't find her on the Ellis Island records and or on the Philadelphia records. We believe she came in through Philadelphia. All records are in the Ukraine and I can't get to them.

Hank

25/12/2003, 22:48:30
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Zlatica : Re: Bereg

The papers up to 1918 would have to reflect the Austria-Hungary dual monarchy.
Bereg is/ was the name of a county / megye in Hungarian.
There was a town named Komjat in the old Nyitra megye which is now called Komjatice, Slovak Republic. That is a bit too far from Bereg megye.
Bilke was in Bereg megye. This is now in Ukraine.
The name DAVIDOVIC' in small numbers in Slovak Republic's phone book.
Check EI under the spelling DAVIDOVIC, DAVIDOVICS,DAVIDOVITZ and DAVIDOVICZ. She might not be under her american name Miriam.
Do post on Ukraine, German, Jewish Ancestry boards and Genforum.
You might want to consider hiring a genealogist in Ukraine to do the research for you.
From Bilke : Davidovic, Helena, Mali,Davidovics, Lanni, Zsenni,Davidovits, Jozsef and Davidovice (Davidovic on the manifest)Jakob.

26/12/2003, 00:12:54
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Zlatica : Re: Bereg

Hank,

If your parents married in America after being here for few years and knowing English, it does not matter that one was from Komjat in Nyitra megye and the other from Bilke, Bereg megye. In any case, they had their Yiddish language as common denominator if they did not know English.

26/12/2003, 00:49:12
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hammernhank: Re: Bereg

I agree. My parents were very loving and warm and got along fine. My problem is that I am having a hard time getting information out of Ukraine. I have posted to most all the units you mentioned. Also do you know a researcher that does work in Ukraine.

I found a town called Bereg that was in Bereg county. That why I didn't know if the birthplace of my Dad was BEREG the town or BEREG the county. Also there is a MAGYAR KOMJAT in TISZANINNENI JARAS now called VELYKI KOMJATI in Ukraine.

Hank

26/12/2003, 01:17:20
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Zlatica : Re: Bereg

The town of Magyarkomjat falls into Ugocsa megye but still in Ukraine.
If your Vilnos GRUNBERGER was from Magyarkomjat I want to say that his manifest would say that. Several of the Grunbergers on EI were from a town named Galszecs which is now Secovce, Slovak Republic and much closer to Ukraine.
Is Czilly Grunberger, also from Komjat, any relation to your father? Could your father have made a mistake by putting Bereg on his papers? Have you located another piece of paper to substantiate either that he was from Komjat or from Bereg? Did he have social security numbers?
A researcher posts on Ukraine's Genforum. The name is UKESOURCE, Bohdan Yurkiv at UkeSource -a-t- ukrania.com

http://mapy.atlas -d-o-t- sk to locate a town in SK
www.zoznamst.sk SK's phone site
www.village.sk photographer that takes pictures of ancestral village etc.

26/12/2003, 01:36:02
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Hammerhank: Re: Bereg

Thank you, I stand corrected. Komjat is in Ugocsa megye.The manifest says that my father was from KOM... because looking on the manifest the last three letters are hard to read. He was met by his sister EMMA or CZILLY Grunberger in 1904 who had come over a few years before. She left about 1909 to go back to Hungary to find a more religious man to marry than she could find here. The man she married was from KOMJAT and that is where she lived and had children. That is the only back up I have to where my father was born.He also did not get a social security number that I can find.

Hank

26/12/2003, 02:27:46
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Zlatica : Re: Bereg

The old Bereg megye map showing Nagykomjat and Magyarkomjat.
It is unfortunate that there is no mention of a megye or a second page to the manifest as whom Vilnos left in the "old country". Yes, the name of a town does look like Komja.. Czilly's manifest clearly has Komjat. Is it possible you write the name of a man that Emma married that was from Komjat? That might be another way to confirm the place.
The town of Komjatice had or went by the following names :
1773-Komjathy, 1786 Komiathi, 1808 Komjathi,Komjatice, 1863-Komjath, 1873-1913, 1938-1946 Komjat, 1920 - 1938, 1945 Komjatice.
The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing Roman Catholic church records from the town of Komjatice, SK. You could invest the $3.50 for the appropriate religion records and see if you can locate either your father or his sister and the children.

26/12/2003, 04:32:36
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hammernhank: Re: Bereg

Thanks for all the information. I will contact the local FHS and see what information they have.

Hank

01/01/2004, 02:42:31
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Gyux

Sziasztok!

Gyertek Miroslav Ilic koncertre Beregre!!!

24/07/2004, 21:00:58
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meredith gemeiner

I am a social worker for Holocaust survivors. I am currently helping someone get the money for the property that was taken from her parents in WWII. Can you please tell me what the town Velike Komnaty is now named? It would be very much appreciated.

03/11/2004, 20:32:45
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kezdi: Velyki Komjaty

Meredith,

These are the various names for the once two village Magyar and Nagy Komj�t(h) in the old pre 1920 Ugocsa County, Hungary: Velyki Komyaty (Velyki Komjaty, Velikiye Komiaty), in Rusyn, Ukranian and Russian languages.

On the following map, it's shortened to "Vel. Kom'jaty" just north of Vinohradiv: http://www.personal.ceu.hu/students/97/Roman_Zakharii/map-berehove-vynohradiv.gif

In searching for Komjat, I come across this book at Amazon.com: Upon the Head of the Goat: A Childhood in Hungary, 1939-1944 By Aranka Siegal, about a little girl who was sent to her granma in Komjaty: http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/tg/detail/-/014036966X/qid=1099614103/sr=8-1/ref=pd_ka_1/002-2150664-9877662?v=glance&s=books&n=507846

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(5 stars) Started my love for all things Hungarian, September 5, 2004
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This was the first book I read about the Shoah in Hungary, and it was so fascinating that it got me interested in all things Hungarian. It's different from many books about the Shoah in that the majority of it takes place before the Nazi invasion of Hungary on 19 March 1944, when the remaining members of the Davidowitz family are shipped off to a ghetto. Though life is growing increasingly hard for them because of the anti-Jewish regulations and the strain of living during a war in general, and Piri had to stay in the Ukraine with her grandmother and older sister Rozsi longer than she expected to because of a border war, the Davidowitzes still have a pretty normal and decent life before they have to leave for the ghetto."

Good luck.

05/11/2004, 02:00:17
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kezdi: Re: Bereg Davidovich coincident?

Hank,
Just read your post and noticed the Davidivich name. Let me call your attention to my previous post here about the book: Upon the Head of the Goat: A Childhood in Hungary, 1939-1944 By Aranka Siegal
It's about the Davidowitz family. Some coincident, isn't?
With Regards,
Joseph

05/11/2004, 18:47:21
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maureen: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My Grandmother is from this village. Her maiden name was Mary Alesik. Her younger sisters son n law has the family home and still lives in it. She married my Grandfather who was from a neighboring village, George Ohar. I hope to hear from anyone with info on this village.

04/01/2005, 01:03:52
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Iveta Komjaty: Re: Bereg

Hi I am looking for roots of my surname and as I was reading this site, which seems to me the one which can help me, this way am asking u for sending any information about Vel. Komjaty village or anything else connected to this issue, I would be really gratefull.............thanks

13/02/2005, 12:13:17
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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

I realize this is an old thread, but if anyone is still interested, we will be visiting Velyki Komjaty this July. It is the town in which my grandfather was born. His nephew still lives in the family home. I will post after we return.

20/05/2006, 22:17:59
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maureen: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Yes we are still interested in hearing from anyone with information on Velyki Komjaty.

22/05/2006, 00:14:09
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hammernhank: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hi DanB. Yes I am still interested. My grandfather's name was Adolph Grunberger and he was a learned man in the Jewish religion. I know that hw was also supposed to be a Rabbi and Cantor.

Thanks Hank

23/05/2006, 05:06:09
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maureen: Re: Velyki Komjaty

When going to to Velyki Komjaty can you check for the family of Aleksik and family name of Ohar from neighboring village Chingula. Look forward to reading your posts after yor trip. Maureen Ohar Ciancio
Tonawanda New York

06/06/2006, 15:00:25
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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

We spent three days last week (July 26-28) in Velyki Komjaty. My grandfather, Paul Borsos, left V.Komjaty in 1912 for Wilkes-Barre, PA. My family has kept in contact with the cousins in V.K. over the years but this was the first time a family member has gone back. First, let me apologize to the people who asked me to check on various family names. I had not looked at this forum in several months and didn't see the requests until today.

We traveled by train from Budapest to Mukachevo. Crossing the boarder at Chop was interesting because we had to figure out the immigration forms ourself. But there were no major problems.

Where to begin...

This is a beautiful area with rolling hills. The Carpathian Mountains are visible in the east. I will try to attach a photo. You can also see some photos of the area in photos.yahoo.com/dborsos

There are 7 (or maybe 9) villages that make up a greater area called Komjaty. These include V.Komjaty, Little Komjaty, Onok, Salanky, Borzavsky and others. The area is predominately agricultural. Most families have 5 or 6 hetors of land given back to them after communism that are planted with tomatoes, peppers, cucumbers and corn. This is for personal consumption and for sale. There is a wide range in what you will see. In one field you will see a modern combine harvesting wheat and in the next you will see one man with a horse drawn cart. Early in the morning you see herds of cattle driven through the street.

Unfortuately unemployment is high, but the small, individual farms help make ends meet. My family is fortunate in that they are school teachers. So they have that salary plus their farm produce.

Surprisingly there are many new, large houses under construction in the area. These belong to people who work part of the year in either the EU or USA. They work as cleaners or in hotels, etc. Back home - because the cost of living is so low - they can build a house like you would see in an american suburb with "two of everything".

We visited in several schools and spoke with some teachers who were working there over the summer. My 15 year old cousin's algebra school work looked just like my 15 year old daughter's.

There are four good-sized churches in town: Catholic, Orthodox, Penticostal or Baptist, and Seventh Day Adventist. We saw the Jewish Cemetary which has a small memorial. According to an older cousin, the Jews were rounded up by the Nazis in late 1943. Sadly, the Jewish population of that area is now very small.

During our stay the Ukranian parliment was trying to form a government. People were glued to their TV sets. The socialists had won the plurality of the votes. The heavily russian eastern portion of the country would like to join back with Russia. In the west, where we were, the Orange party and Victor Yushinko (sp?) is popular but people are frustrated because reforms have been very slow.

I spent several months before our trip learning Russian (because I could not find a Ukrainian course) and it came in very handy. My family is friends with a Peace Corp volunteer from Charlotte, NC who teaches english in the schools in V.K. and she was with us for a good part of our visit to interpret. But even when she was not around, with a little russian, a little english, a little german and a pencil and paper we were able to communicate just fine.

It was an unforgetable experience to meet this part of my family face-to-face. They were so gracious. If you have family in the area or are just curious I would strongly advise making this trip. I just wish that we hadn't waited this long.

From Budapest there is a direct train that stops at Mukachevo (40 km north of V.K.) but it arrives at about 4:00 in the morning. We traveled during the day so we would arrive in the afternoon. This involved 4 trains - Budapest to Nyiregyhaza (3 hours), Nyiregyhaza to Zahony (1 hour), Zahony to Chop (30 minutes) and Chop to Mukachevo (about 90 minutes) - so there was a lot of schleping baggage. On the way out, we were able to get an over-night sleeper from Chop all the way to Vienna. That was a much easier journey.

Please forgive this hurried post, but I wanted to share a little of our trip.

Dan B

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06/08/2006, 04:03:40
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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Maureen
I may have a bit of information on your family after all! I have been re-reading some of my family history. My great grandfather from V.Komyaty whose name was Alexie Borsos married a Mary Aleksik who was born October 4, 1873. So my great grandmother was an Aleksik in V.K. There son, my grandfather, Paul Borsos came to Wilkes Barre, PA in 1912.
I visited the site where their house stood, however it was an old wood house that was torn down about 40 years ago.
Perhaps you and I are some sort of distant cousin.
The next time I write to the folks in V.K. I will ask if they know any Ohars or Aleksiks today.
See my previous post for info on our trip to V.K. in July.
Dan Borsos

14/08/2006, 05:11:52
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Chanah: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Dan-
Haven't looked at the Radix forum in a while. Found your post this evening. My grandmother, Dora Schajovits, listed her place of origin as Nagy Komjath (now Onok) on the 1909 passenger manifest at Ellis Island. She was traveling with two young women named Gelb who were from Ilonok Ujfalu (now Veliki Komjati). Thank you for the information on what the area currently looks like and the photo.

27/10/2006, 03:25:19
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kezdi: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Chanah,
A minor correction:
Onok(UA)=Ilonok-Ujfalu(HU) is just south from Velika Komjaty(UA)=Nagy- and Magyar-Komjat(HU)

Map of Onok, UA by MapQuest:
http://www.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?formtype=address&country=UA&addtohistory=&city=onok

Joseph

27/10/2006, 19:16:56
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danb: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Chanah
I'm glad you enjoyed my post. If you go to this link:

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg

You will find an old map of Ugocsa County of Hungary. You will see that Nagy Komjat is Velyki Komjat and Magyar Komjat is just to the west. Magyar Komjat is now called Little Komjaty (Velyki = Big). Onok is just south of Komjaty. In fact the villages almost run together. The photo that I posted is taken in middle of Velyki Komjaty looking west. The furthest houses you see on the right side of the picture are Little or Magyar Komjaty.

Google maps and Google earth now has a high resolution photo for the area right around V. Komjaty. There are very few place names but you can find it if you find Mukachevo and then move south east. Or you can imput these coordinates:

48 14 23n 22 58 58e

You will land on the large church on the highest hill in the center of town.

10/11/2006, 03:17:44
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rsolit: Re: Bereg

Hank,
My grandmother was born in Magyar Komjat, today Velikeye Komjati, in the Ukraine. I have info been researching the town and the people that lived there. Contact me at rsolit -a-t- comcast -d-o-t- net

10/11/2006, 06:31:37
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sprovach: Re: Velyki Komjaty

hank,

my grandmother, ersabet balasz was from the village of bilke and came through ellis island in 1913 (she was 19). can you direct me to any information on bilke,etc.?

many thanks,

ellen

14/05/2007, 22:07:21
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sprovach: Re: Velyki Komjaty

hank,

my grandmother, ersabet balasz was from the village of bilke and came through ellis island in 1913 (she was 19). can you direct me to any information on bilke,etc.?

many thanks,

ellen

14/05/2007, 22:07:26
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craftythings: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My family was from Bilke, Bereksasz, Chust and Muncach ( my anut and mother went to school in Munchach). Those that survived the war came to the states much later. The family names were Weiss, Klein and Kohn. I have 2 magnificent landscape paintings the were done around 1939. The name of the artist appears to be Praetorius. He painted the Carpathian Mountains as rolling landscapes. I am trying to piece together family history and find a link to this artist. I hope to visit the area some time in the spring. Julie Salamon, who is a professional writer, wrote a beautiful book about her travels with her mother and uncle in the region. It is called a Net of Dreams. You might find it very interesting.

Sharon

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05/07/2007, 04:37:55
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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

I don't know if this thread is still active, but... we will be be back in V.Komjaty at the end of this month. I will ask my family if they have any information or contact with the Aleksik or Ohar family. Someone else mentioned the name Grunburger (I need to check the spelling). There is an old Jewish cemetary with a memorial there. I don't know if there is anything with names, but I will check.

Our cousins are several generations of school teachers, so they seem to know everyone having taught them, their children or their parents in high school.

Dan Borsos

The picture is a street scene with the catholic church on the hill in the background taken in V.K. last summer.

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07/07/2007, 22:30:09
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rsolit: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Dan,
Several years ago I visited V. Komjaty, the ancestral home of my grandmother Lena Rapaport. We were unable to obtain a good map of the town, therefore I never got a good feeling about where things were in relation to each other. If I sent you a map, could you locate the following on the map- the large church (which I thought was Greek Orthodox, but may be Catholic- it was across from the town hall), the Jewish cemetery and the synagogue and small building next to it (which was a Hebrew school). I would really appreciate this.
Thanks,
Roberta Solit

08/07/2007, 03:35:49
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Chanah: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Dan-
My grandmother,Dora's, father, Lajos Schajovits, is listed on her passenger manifest as being from Nagy Komjath (aka Magyarkomjat) now Onok. She traveled with a Tilda Gelb who was from Ilonokufalu (now Veliki Komjaty).
I am most interested in tracing Lajos. Golda Schreiber, Dora's mother, died either in childbirth or soon after. Lajos re-married and produced at least one other child, Marton. I have a photo of Marton with a birthdate of 1899.
Could you make inquiries about the name Schajovits while you are in Velyki Komjaty? Many thanks. Ann Armoza

08/07/2007, 14:39:38
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George Bedrin: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hi Maureen,
i just visited this site and saw that you want info about Aleksik in Veliky Komnaty. i visited wtih them in 1996. My grandmother , Julia Aleksik Maleta came to America in 1913.
George Bedrin
Grand Isle Vermont

15/07/2007, 21:23:57
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Diamantino Sousa: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hi. I would like to know if it is possible to book through internet the train trip from Budapest to Mukachevo and if not where can i learn more about prices and such.

Sorry for the quick question.. hurry trip planning :-)

Thank you very much in advance.

17/07/2007, 12:57:34
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Jane: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My grandmother's maiden anme was Julia Ohar and she had about 4 other brothers and sisters. One sister came over with her and moved to Chester, PA. My granmother lived in Philadelphia. She married a John Bedzgotsky? Or something to that effect. The name was changed after they came over so hard to tell what it was for sure. My grandmother was born around 1885. If anyone has any info please forword. I noticed some other Ohar's on here as well. Thnx!

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Annette: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Dan,
Thank you for offering to help when you are in Ukraine! You are probably sorry you offered ;-) My grandmother was born in Velyki Komjaty in 1893. Her maiden name was Anna Sarkadi, parents Mikaly Sarkadi and Maria Tupecza. She had 2 brothers who were killed in the war. Her grandmother is listed as Anna Seregi. Here is her birth certificate-- it was in Russian. Any info you discover would be much appreciated. Have a great trip!
Annette

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27/07/2007, 10:03:21
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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

Annette

The correct spelling is Mihaly not Mikaly. It is written as Mihaly.
http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.au/names
The month of birth does look like Januar-January

27/07/2007, 13:59:40
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craftythings: Re: Bereg

I picked up on your reference to the Davidovich name. My mother came from Bilke, studied in Munchach and Chust. My father was Roumanian and Hungarian and had relatives in the town my mom was born in. I know that I have distant cousins with the Davidovich name, but on my father's side. Sadly the generation that would be able to identify these names for me has passed on. I do have some old photos and letters which I will try to find. If I see any references to the Davidovich name, I will get in touch with you again. My family names were Weiss, Klein and Kohn on my mothers side and Rubin and Popovich on my fathers side.

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danb: Re: Velyki Komjaty

We visited in V. Komjaty again this July 26 - 29. I took a list of names that were in this forum before we left and asked our cousins if they had knew of any of the names

Rapaport - no

Schajovits - no

Gelb - the grandfather remembers a family with this name before the second world war

Ohar - There are Ohar families in the village of Borzavsky (formerly know as Chingula) just east of Komjaty.

Alexei - the quote was "there are 7000 people in Komjaty, 1200 of them are Alexei"

Grunberger - no

Since several of these names are Jewish I took a series of photos of stones in the old Jewish cemetery. I have posted them on Flickr at

http://www.flickr.com/photos/dborsos/sets/72157601659338760/

Let me know if you have trouble getting the the photo this is the first thing I've posted to Flickr.

According the grandfather, before the war there were about 100 Jewish families in V.Komjaty. After the war about 10 families came back. When the Soviet Union collapsed, almost all left for Israel.

We arrived just as the tomato crop was coming in, so we spent some time in the fields with our family picking. Great time!

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danb: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Annette, I'm sorry, we left for Europe on July 18, so I didn't see your post until we returned.
Sorry
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danb: Re: Velyki Komjaty - Aleksik

In a previous post I wrote

Alexei - the quote was "there are 7000 people in Komjaty, 1200 of them are Alexei"

I meant to type Aleksik, not Alexei

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rsolit: Veliky Komjati

Hi Dan,
Great photos. Thanks for taking the time to photograph the Jewish Cemetery and for asking about my Rapaport family. Did you posibly get a map of Komjat. As I mentioned before, I visited several years ago, and would like to locate the cemetery on a map. Also, could you tell me what time of day the photos were taken.
Thanks so much,
Roberta

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danb: Re: Veliky Komjati

As I mentioned before, I visited several years ago, and would like to locate the cemetery on a map. Also, could you tell me what time of day the photos were taken.
Thanks so much,
Roberta

Roberta
I asked and there does not seem to be a map of the town. However, Google maps now has a high resolution photo of the town online. Let me see if I can figure out a way to note it.
Also, the photos were taken at about 1:00 or 2:00 in the afternoon.
Dan

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Onok Potoki

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Hammernhank: Re: Velyki Komjaty

To DanB. I don't come to this site and just read your message about Komjat and that you couldn't fine any information on Grunberger. Thanks for trying

Hank

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dynomutt129: Re: Velyki Komjaty

I am new to this forum. My grand-mother emigrated from V. Komyaty to the USA in 1913/1914. Her name was Martha Mesko. My grandfather, George Malyar, came from a neighboring village, which she referred to as the same village. His town was Nagy Csongova. On the map posted of Ugosca at http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg I can find both villages and the river she swam in as a girl. (that's another story) Thank you, Dan, for posting the map!

Dan, you state that your family settled in Wilkes-Barre, PA. So did my grandparents. Would your family happen to know any of the Malyars aka Millers?

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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

Elaine

You might also want to post on Ukraine's Genforum and Ancestry board.
http://genforum.com
www.ancestry.com/community
www.ukraine.com/forums/genealogy
www.kuijsten.de/navigator
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/index.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
www.c-rs.org
MALYAR (Maliar/Maljar/Mal^ar) would be painter

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dynomutt129: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Thank you for the suggestions!

Here is some more information on my grandmother, Martha Mesko. Her father's name was George and her mother was Sophie. She had a brother, Joseph, who had only one arm. He lost an arm in some kind of machinery accident. I suspect a piece of farm equipment. We think she had three sisters: Maria, Sophie and Julia. The only one we truly know about is Maria (see picture), who looked very much like my grandmother. Both are deceased.

Thank you.

Elaine

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AnnetteO: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Elaine,

The photo of your great grandmother is very beautiful! What a sweet face. This must have been the style to wear a dark kerchief and polka-dot fabric for the dress, as I have a photo of my great grandmother in similar attire. This is Rosalie Veto, she lived on the other side of Hungary, in Gyor, Hungary. But I also have a grandmother who was Anna Sarkadi, from Velyki Komjaty.

There are a number of us who are interested in this village. Are we all Hungarian, or are there some Ukrainian and Russian also? Perhaps we should organize a tour and ask Dan B to be our tour guide! ;-)

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AnnetteO: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Elaine,

The photo of your great grandmother is very beautiful! What a sweet face. This must have been the style to wear a dark kerchief and polka-dot fabric for the dress, as I have a photo of my great grandmother in similar attire. This is Rosalie Veto, she lived on the western side of Hungary, in Gyor, Hungary. But I also have a grandmother who was Anna Sarkadi, from Velyki Komjaty.

There are a number of us who are interested in this village. Are we all Hungarian, or are there some Ukrainian and Russian also? Perhaps we should organize a tour and ask Dan B to be our tour guide! ;-)

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Zlatica : Re: few more sites for research

Your welcome.

Few more sites won't hurt.
www.infoukes.com/genealogy
www.torugg.org
www.tccweb.org
www.karpatok.uzhgorod.ua/index3.html
http://all.zakarpattya.net/index.html

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dynomutt129: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hello Annette!

I see what you mean about the dark scarf and the dress. Must be the fashion of the times. Your great grandmother is lovely.

I agree that Dan needs to lead a tour group of interested people over there. I'd love to go! However, I'd like to make a tour of Zohor, Uzhgorod, Nagy Csongova and Velyki Komjaty. As for what we are, I think it depends. I'm thinking that my heritage is a combination of Carpatho-Russyn, Slovak, Hungarian, and, perhaps a little bit of something else from that vicinity.

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Zlatica : Re: Slovakia, Ukraine

Elaine

Zohor is in Western Slovak Republic so you are Slovak. The other towns are in Ukraine so than you are most likely Ruthenian-Rusyn.
Take a look in www.helenezx.homestead.com or
www.our-slovakia.com as they take tours to Slovakia and Ukraine.
I remember my grandmother and greatgrandmother wearing a "babus'ka" - chustoc'ka. Hard to explain the "tradition" of this wearing the headscarf. When a husband died the custom was to wear all black for a year, to be in mourning. That tradition still going in the villages today. Everyone comes to the funeral in black (dark).

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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hummm... Dan as tour guide. I guess I didn't tell you about the time we ended up going the wrong way on a train out of Chop...

Actually, getting to Mukacheveo is easy. Fly to Vienna or Budapest and get on the Kiev train. You'll be schlepping your own bags. Navigating immigration at Chop (the Ukraine border crossing) is interesting but not a big problem. If you care to you can trace the progress of our trip summer before last with the first 15 or so pictures of:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/dborsos/sets/72157601692227062/

There is a good hotel on the pedestrian square in Mukacheveo - Hotel Star or Zirka.

It's the last 25 miles that are the challenge. Velyki Komjaty is a large village. There is no hotel. Only a couple of eating/drinking establishments. And driving the back roads in Ukraine is probably not something you want to try.

One really needs a local contact or a guide/driver. Before our first trip I had made arrangements through a friend of mine who has adopted a couple of kids from Ukraine for a reputable guide/driver. A week before our trip the guide called our cousins to introduce himself. He was told in no uncertain terms that the Borsos' were going to take care of their american cousins and his services would not be required!

So there are local guides available.

best to all

DanB

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rsolit: Veliky Komjati

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rsolit: Veliky Komjati

I was wondering if Dan was able to find any birth, marraige or death documents while he was in Komjat or, does he know of a source for getting documents of events that occurred in the 19th or early 20th centuries.
Were there records in the church at Komjat?
Roberta Solit

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julie summerlin: gruber

yes looking for information on a peter and barbara gruber from bereg children were steve,michael,john,sebastian,julia and barbara, all came to america except barbara gruber who married a joseph bernhardt, whom I was told was killed by the russians in 1942 any information would be helpful

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julie summerlin

yes does anyone have any information on all the cemeteries names of cemeteries that are in the city of bereg, around early 1900, also all the names of the churches in that city around 1910, my great grandparents are from bereg and I believe that my great great grandfather is buried there, any information would be helpful, thank you julie a summerlin email mtsumm47 -a-t- aol -d-o-t- com

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stefaniearmstrong10: Re: Davidovics

My great grandfather was Paul Davidovics. The only thing we know is from a 1920 census indicating he was 44 2/12 months in Jan. of 1920, he was married to my great grandmother Mary Davidovics and had 3 kids, and 2 step children. He indicated he was Austrian and spoke Italian, his parents were from Hungary. We can't make out the rest. Oh, except he came to the US in 1892, and became a citizen in 1900. We are lost, and need help finding more. Can anyone help?

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Zlatica : Re: Davidovics

Stefanie

DAVIDOVICS is Hungarian spelling of a Slavic surname DAVIDOVIC^.
You did not find the family on 1930 census? Did he marry in US? If yes, did you try finding state marriage application? How about church marriage records and/or children baptismal record? Unfortunately the pre 1906 naturalization petitions did not ask where born. Did you locate his arrival manifest?
Where have you posted, on what other board?

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Zlatica: Re: sites for research

Stefanie

152 DAVIDOVICSs in www.ellisislandrecords.org Maybe one of them is your ancestor's relative that came later. Possible your ancestor could have come thru Baltimore, Boston or Philadelphia.
Few sites you might want to take a look before you get started:
www.croatia-in-english.com
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.ihff.at
www.felix-game.ca
www.surnamenavigator.org
You need to find a precise place of birth among the US documents to proceed with the research.
A first name site: http://www.progenealogists.com/hungary/names.htm

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Chanah: Re: Davidovics

What was the city or area for the 1920 census? That might indicate where he arrived. If he came into New York, you might also check the Castle Gardens records on line.

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ESummerhill: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Would you happen to know the name of the neighboring village? My grandmother was from Velyki Komjaty but grandfather was from somewhere nearby.

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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

ESummerhill

Good idea to make yourself a copy of few old maps.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

ESummerhill
maps:
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=48.2333&longitude=22.9667&size=big
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/bereg.jpg right side bottom in the (dirty) yellow Nagy Komjat
http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG100_300DPI/P56_S36_4770_Chust_300dpi.jpg top of the map under large 72

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Elaine: Re: Velyki Komjaty

I will make a copy of those maps. Thank you.

My grandmother, who was from Velyki Komjaty (maiden name Mesko or Meska) told me that she married grandfather because, "he handsomest man in village". His name was, I believe, Malyar. However, I found what I believe to be his immigration papers and they state he is from Nagy Csongova. Would anyone happen to know if that town has a different name today?

I've attached a photo of my grandparent's wedding. Perhaps, someone will recognize them.

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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

N.Csongova is known today as Borzavsky. It is just east of V.K. You can see N.Csongova on this map of the old Ugosca County:

http://images.google.com/imgres?imgurl=http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg&imgrefurl=http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm&usg=__pQFnP90j_5AIGz2VcOGr2L8eH38=&h=1139&w=1087&sz=442&hl=en&start=1&um=1&tbnid=CKwoY0fRXRM7DM:&tbnh=150&tbnw=143&prev=/images?q=ugocsa&um=1&hl=en&sa=X

If you go to Mapquest.com and pull up the current map of Ukraine you can zoom in to see Borzasky.

Also, in the photo attached that I took a couple of years ago looking east from the top of a hill in V.K. the buildings in the distance on the left edge of the photo about mid height are probably N.Csongova/Borzavsky.

DanB

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bethlong3: Bod from Keszdialbis

Am researching the Bod family from Haromszek County. Would like to correspond from others descended from this family.

Beth Long
Budapest

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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

Elaine

Nagycsongova, Ugocsa megye, Hungary now Borzhavs'ke, Ukraine.
Magyarkomjat, Ugocsa megye, Hungary now Velyki kom'iaty [Kumniata], Ukraine. The theory is that the villages should be/would be within 10 miles radius from each other if the ancestors married in "old country".
I am sure you saw on Ugocsa megye map that Magyar-komjat, Nagy komjat is down the road from Kiscsongova and Nagycsongova. :) I take it that neither ancestor came thru Ellis Island?
Have you posted on Ukraine's board?
www.ukraine.com/forums/genealogy

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Armoza: Re: Velyki Komjaty

According to my grandmother, Dora Schajovits', passenger manifest, her father, Lajos, lived in Nagy Komjath (now Onok, Ukraine). She traveled with a young woman, named Tilda Gelb. Tilda's father Joseph Gelb lived in Ilonok Ujfalu (now Veliki Komjati, Ukraine). It is my understanding that the two villages are about two miles apart. Am posting an early photo of my grandmother, Dora. If she is familiar to anyone, please let me know.
Ann Armoza

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Armoza: Re: Velyki Komjaty

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Zlatica : Re: Velyki Komjaty

Ann
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ugocsa.jpg
Yes, the villages are close to each other: Magyar-Komjat, Nagy-Komjat and Ilonok-Ujfalu South of NK (right side in a yellow outline)
Yes, that is what Dora's EI manifest says. GELB Fanny and Tilda were from Y. Ujfalu, Hungary

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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

to all still reading this list:
Where did your families settle in the US? Per my conversations in Komjaty and per my family history many from this area settled in north eastern PA around Wilkes-Barre. There also are a lot of families who settled in Kent, Washington. I am also aware of some who settled in Ohio around Youngstown.
regards
Dan

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ESummerhill: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My grandparents settled in Wilkes-Barre, PA. Their eldest surviving son, John, was born in Wilkes-Barre in 1918.

In 1920, they lived at 819 Pennsylvania Ave. According to the census, they immigrated in 1912 & 1914. It also appears that pretty much everyone around them was from either Ugosca, Galacia, or Poland. They are shown as having come from Ugosca.

In 1930, they resided at #20 Brookside St., Wilkes-Barre, PA. It looks like they rented part of the house from the widow, Mr. Marion Lemsky. The 1930 census shows them as immigrating in 1906 & 1913 as as being from Czechoslovakia.

In the late 40's, the family moved to the Baltimore, Maryland vicinity.

I am researching: Malyar aka Miller (Nagy Csongova), Mesko (V. Komyaty), Ihnat, Struhar (Zohor, Slovakia), Vlcek (Slovakia), and Mifkovic (Zohor).

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Zlatica : Re: Mifkovics, Sztruhar

Elaine

Have we communicated on another board? Maybe you posted on Ancestry or Genforum.
An ALL site for research in Slovakia :
www.iabsi.com/gen/public (you might have it already)
Mifkovic, Maria Zohor, C. Slovakia
Mifkovics, Franz Zohor, Hungaria
Mifkovics, Janos Zohor, Austria
Mifkovics, Janos Zohor, Hung.
Mifkovics, Michal Zohor
Mifkovits, Peter Zohor
Milkovics, Ludwig Zohor, Hungary
Mifkovics, Matin Tohor, Hungary
Nifkovics, Janos Zohor
Strubar, Josefine Zohor, Hungary
Sztruhar, Arnold Zohor, Hungary
Sztruhar, Zsuzsanna Zohor, Hungary
Sztruhar, Agnes Zabor
Vlcsek, Tamas Zohor, Hungary
Vlesek, Elisabeth Zohor
Welcsck, Franz Zohor
I am sure you found the above in www.ellisislandrecords.org There could be more.
In Zohor's phone book MIFKOVIC^, VLC^EK, STRUHAR,
www.zoznamst.sk

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MD41204: Re: Bereg

Do you know that Komjat is a former name for Onok, or are they separate towns? On the 1910 Bereg map, I don't see the name Onok even though it should be between Huszt and Berehove, south of Ilsova (Irshova in Ukranian.

My grandmother (Hanni Gelb, anglicanized/married name Anna Han) left Onok in Bereg County in 1921.

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DanB: Re: Bereg

Check out the attached map which may be the same one that you are refering to. Just south of Komjat is (I may get the spelling wrong because the type is hard to read) Ilonok-Ujfhlu at the location of Onok - about 5km south of Komjaty.

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Zlatica : Re: Onok

MD41204

Onok, Szolnok-Doboka megye, Hungary now in Romania.
Komjat, Nyitra megye, Hungary now in Slovakia
How sure are you about Onok?

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Zlatica : Re: Onok, Bereg megye

DM41204

http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG100_300DPI/P56_S36_4770_Chust_300dpi.jpg
top of the below 76
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/41-48.jpg
left side below small 20 2 lines below word Ungarn the village as Ilonok-Ujfalu
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/41-48_szatmarnemeti.jpg left side margin Alsoremete and SALANK village as Ilonokujfalu.

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julie a summerlin: bereg

looking for information on the grubers from backi breg around 1860-1925 peter gruber married barbara wittmer around 1878 children steve sabastian john michael julia barbara all came to the usa except barbara she married a joseph bernhardt children paul, rosina, and barbara I was told that the bernhardt was killed by the russians during the war. peter gruber died around 1897 so he's buried in bereg backi breg unknown any information would be helpful thanks julie a summerlin

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Zell: Re: Researching Praschinger

Hello
I'm from Backi Breg /Beregh/ did you know that at the local cemetery there are the thumbstones of Anton Prashinger and Stefan Prashinger?

You can contact me at zeljkavukobratovic -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com

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Zell: Researching ancestors

If you are searching for your ancestors from Backi Breg, e.g. Bereg, feel free to contact me via email zeljkavukobratovic -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com I will be glad if I can help you.

Regards from Backi Breg

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karenohar: Re: Velyki Komjaty

This town is now called Borzhavskoye. My grandfather is from Nagy Csongova

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karenohar: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My grandfather was george (gyorgy) ohar he was from Chingula now Borzavsky just east of Velyki komjaty. He married my grandmother Mary Alesik from velyki komjaty. He and his cousin John Ohar came to wilkes barre pa to work in the coal mines.

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sai-john: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My mother, Rose Ohar, was born in Wilkes-Barre, PA in 1919. Her parents (my grandparents) Mary Aleksik was from Velyki Komyaty, Zakarpatskaya Oblast, Ukraine ~ emigrated 1914 and her father George Ohar was from a neighboring village (3.4 miles east) Borzavs'ke ,Zakarpatskaya Oblast, Ukraine emigrated 1913 . My mothers god father is George Malyar.

The river your grand mother swam in as a girl is River Rika...same as my grand mothers swim experiance. The Aleksik family property was boardered on the north side by River Rika.

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sai-john: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My mother Rose Ohar remembers the Malyar family. She was born in Wilkes Barre, PA in 1919. Mr. Malyar was her godfather. Two of his children were my mothers friends. John and Mary. John came to visit my mother in Buffalo when we she lived on Condon Ave. They eventually moved to Baltimore. I have a picture of John and my mothers car when she and her brother George Ohar drove to WilkesBarre for a visit shortly after she was married.

George Ohar (my grandfather) and George Malyar were from Borzavs'ke [U], Nagycsongova [H], Velyka Cengava [Ru], Velyka Cynhava [U]. All these villages are exactly the same one. The village name changed after WWI and then again in 1944 after WWII hence [Hungary] - [Russia] - [Ukraine].

George Ohar emegrated to USA in 1913.

My grandmother, my mothers mother name Mary Aleksik was from V. Komjaty. She emigrated to USA in Jan 1914.

The river your grandmother swam in is River Rika. the Aleksik family property bordered on this river.

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dynomutt129: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Dan,

I found my father's baptisimal certificate from St Mary of the Assumption in Wilkes-Barre, PA. It states that Helen Borsos was one of his sponsors. Don't know if she's related to your Borsos' or not, but I'm guessing she is.

Elaine

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dynomutt129: Re: Velyki Komjaty

John S.,

I've lost your email and have been unable to reply. Please contact me again! BTW, George Ohar was my father's godfather.

Thanks!

Elaine Miller Summerhill

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sai-john: Re: Velyki Komjaty

My contact info is as follows:

John Stevenson
sai-john -a-t- msn -d-o-t- com
716-462-4930 Buffalo, NY

My mother Rose (ohar) Stevenson is George Ohar's oldest daughter.

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Zlatica : Re: GRUBER, Backi Breg

julie

Gruber, Istvan Berey, Hungary 30 1881 1911
Gruber, Katalin Berey, Hungary 28 1883 191
Gruber, Konrad Berey, Hungary 8 1903 1911
Gruber, Sebestyen Bereg, Hungary 25 1883 1908
Gruber, Sebestynne Bereg, Hungary 19 1889 1908
Gruber, Margareta Birik, Slovakia 27 1894 1921
Gruber, Margareta Birik, Slovakia 1 1920 1921
Gruber, Michal Birik, Slovakia 33 1888 1921
The child Margareta was naturalized citizen; set of numbers, date and a 505 notation. You might want to look into her naturalization intent and petition.
http://www.archives.gov/genealogy/naturalization/
http://www.jewishgen.org/infofiles/manifests/

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bački_Breg
http://www.maplandia.com/serbia-and-montenegro/vojvodina/backi-breg/
http://genforum.com/gruber/

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Zlatica : Re: Backi Breg

julie

~If you are searching for your ancestors from Backi Breg, e.g. Bereg, feel free to contact me via email zeljkavukobratovic -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com I will be glad if I can help you.

Regards from Backi Breg ~

Did you try asking Zeljka for help?

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Zlatica : Re: GRNBER [Gruber]

julie

Did you already look at these GRNBER[GRUBER]NY EI arrival manifests?
Grnber, Anna Talmas, Hungary 33 1876 1909
Grnber, Colesstin Talmas, Hungary 6 1903 1909
Grnber, Colesztm Talmas, Hungary 38 1871 1909
Grnber, Erzsebet Talmas, Hungary 9 1900 1909
Grnber, Ferezia Talmas, Hungary 14 1895 1909
Grnber, Jossef Talmas, Hungary 11 1898 1909
Grnber, Zsofia Talmas, Hungary 16 1893 1909
They were going to cousin GRUBER Jozsef, Lill Ave 991. Chicago, Ill.#14 was born in T. Almas [Toront�lalm�s, Toront�l megye, Hungary now Jabuka, Serbia.
Gruber, Anton T. Almas, Hungary 5 1903 1908
Gruber, Erzsebet T. Almas, Hungary 10 1898 1908
Gruber, Eva T. Almas, Hungary 7 1901 1908
Gruber, Ferencz T. Almas, Hungary 3 1905 1908
Gruber, Jozsefne T. Almas, Hungary 29 1879 1908
Gruber, Maria T. Almas, Hungary 20 1890 1910
Gruber, Terez T. Almas, Hungary 1 1909 1910

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Armoza: Re: Bereg

My grandmother, Dora Schajovits (Sajovics) traveled to the United States in July, 1909 on the Vaderland out of Antwerp. She was accompanied by cousins Tilda and Fanny Gelb. Dora's father was Lajos Schajovits. He lived in Nagy Komjath (now Onok). Tilda's father was Joseph Gelb. He lived in Ilonok Ujfalu (now Veliki Komjati).
Are these Gelb girls any relation to your Hanni?
Ann Schweibish Armoza

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Armoza: Re: Bereg

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rsolit: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Hi,
I'm creating a website for Velikye Komyaty and would like to gather information about the people who lived there and the town itself. I would like to identify specific locations on a google map of V. Komyati. Also need photos pertaining to the town and it's people.
Would appreciate any help.
Roberta

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DanB: Re: Velyki Komjaty

Helen Borsos may have been the wife of my grandfather's cousin Goerge Borsos who lived in Wilkes-Barre. My grandfather was the assistant cantor at St. Mary's for many years.

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rsolit: Komjat

Does anyone know the name of the large church in Komjat (Velikiye Komyaty)?

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