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	1344: STILL SEARCHING LOOKING FOR INFO ON SCHWINDL FAMILY. PAPERS READ THAT MY GRANDFATHER JOHANN SCHWINDL WAS FROM DUNACSEB BACSBODROG BORN MAY 5, 1885, JOHANN CAME TO THE U.S. ONCE IN 1900 AND AGAIN WITH WIFE KATHERINE EISMANN BORN JUNE 4, 1884 ALSO FROM SAME AREA ,WITH HER PARENTS IN ABOUT 1910. SCHWINDL FAMILY ALBUM HOLDS TWO SEPIA PHOTOS OF MONUMENTS DONATED TO THE TOWN OF DUNACSEB (CELAREVO) BY THE SCHWINDL FAMILY. THE OLDEST BROTHER SCHWINDL INHERITED THE FARM IN DUNACSEB WHILE MY GRANDFATHER AND A YOUNGER BROTHER NICK AND SISTER KATHERINE CAME TO AMERICA WHILE ANOTHER SISTER MOVED TO ARGENTINA. THE FARM WAS MISMANAGED AND LOST BY ALCHOHOLIC OLDEST BROTHER. THERE WAS SOME NAME CHANGING GOING ON ACCORDING TO THE BITS AND PIECES I'VE BEEN ABLE TO GATHER BUT NOTHING THAT I COULD FIND IN THE INDEX. IT'S LIKE WE NEVER EXISTED. ANY INFO WOULD BE GREATLY APPRECIATED. OUR FAMILY IS GERMAN SPEAKING, MY GRANDFATHER SCHWINDL SPOKE SEVEN LANGUAGES, WAS IN THE AUSTRIAN ARMY, WORKED WITH WHEAT AND WAS CATHOLIC. MY GREAT GRANDFATHER ISEMANN, MATHIAS WAS A CABINET MAKER WE ARE WAITING TO GET OUR HANDS ON HIS PAPERS TO HAVE THEM TRANSLATED IN HOPES OF FINDING MORE INFORMATION.		21/04/2004, 18:50:29 #: 200404392 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: STILL SEARCHING I only have few websites and search engines to help you with. www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator http://vivisimo.com Hope you also posted on Germany's boards.		21/04/2004, 19:08:52 #: 200404393 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: STILL SEARCHING The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at : http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 The town of Dunacseb is in Bacs-Bodrog megye and at present in Yugoslavia. (you know that) www.jewishgen.org.ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing a church records of Celarevo. www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording.		21/04/2004, 19:17:26 #: 200404395 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING hello, my family is also from Tscheb. This is the old German name for Celarevo. My Fathers name is Andreas Wilding. His parents were Peter Wilding and Katharina Wilding born Ernst. My father often told me that his cousin's name as Schwindl. My grandfather has together with other relatives a wheat mill on the river Donau. There is a family register from Tscheb. I'll try to get it as a pdf file. Email Gerd -a-t- wildings -d-o-t- de Gerd		09/07/2004, 11:08:49 #: 200407177 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING Hi, just found more info to according your family: try this:http://www.totenbuch-donauschwaben.at/de/moresearch.php Mathias isemann born 1901 died 1944 in Yugoslavian. 1944 same Anna and all Schwindls staying there after 1944.		09/07/2004, 12:16:14 #: 200407179 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING I have to change. I spoke to my fathers cousin and he told me that my grandfathers mother married a second time.Her new name was Marianne Schwindl born Lange. And so it was my fathers uncle who died in USSR 1944 after being in war for 6 days.		09/07/2004, 12:49:09 #: 200407180 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING mathias Isemann was my grandmothers uncle!		24/07/2004, 15:02:52 #: 200407495 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Diane: Re: STILL SEARCHING Hello, By chance I saw your posting. I am interested in your Wilding line. I have a Peter Wilding born 1839 in Steiermark, Austria. Married Regina Pichler (Pachlor, Bachlor from Unter Karten, Austria). Peter mother was Katharina Wilding. I have no father listed. Could there be any connection? Thank you, Diane Kamphaus		13/03/2006, 02:31:42 #: 200603739 post replyedit abuse? profile

	waltoc: Re: STILL SEARCHING By chance I found your posting. My grandparents' name was Schwindle, Michael and Catherine. My grandmother's maiden name was Weber, born 1879. We understand that they came from Ceb, probably around 1910 and settled in Akron, Michigan where they bought a farm. My grandmother's father was reportedly the burgermeister. My grandfather was in the military. Very little information is available about the family but I am interested in researching it. I have attached a old photo of my grandmother's sister and presumably her children. The back of the photo had a caption but we cannot translate it. Also, there is a name of the photography studio which may be a help in understanding its origin. Any information would be great. This image is attached to the message. To see the image in original size, please click on it.		16/12/2007, 18:10:20 #: 200712753 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: SCHWINDLE, WEBER waltoc www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm Both villages are mentioned there with church film numbers. The studio of SCHLOTTER Jozsef in Palanka. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Bacsbodrog megye On the bottom of the map is Palanka and little North-East is Dunacseb. www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm Using One step/gold form www.stevemorse.org from Palanka : SCHWINDL,SCHVINDL; from Dunacseb: SCHWIND, SCHWINDL www.kuijsten.de/navigator The writing might be German.		17/12/2007, 07:28:35 #: 200712785 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: SCHWINDL, VEBER waltoc SCHWINDL from D. Csep, Palanka, Dunacseb, Dunassely/Dunaczel/Dunacoel (sp?) Dunacseb VEBER from Palanka www.stevemorse.org		17/12/2007, 07:43:09 #: 200712787 post replyedit abuse? profile

	1344: Re: STILL SEARCHING It's been awhile,and I have recently recieved messages, with connections that are too close to ignore, which has sparked my interest again. But I have realized that what I am really looking for is where did my family come from before Celarevo, Tcseb. My understanding from my grandparents was that the land was homesteaded when the ruling monarchy at the times was trying to expand his domain. The dunaschwabins, who traveled down the Danube (from where? when? how? why? who?) all I have is the what.		16/02/2008, 00:07:11 #: 200802917 post replyedit abuse? profile

	1344: Re: STILL SEARCHING It's been awhile,and I have recently recieved messages, with connections that are too close to ignore, which has sparked my interest again. But I have realized that what I am really looking for is where did my family come from before Celarevo, Tcseb. My understanding from my grandparents was that the land was homesteaded when the ruling monarchy at the times was trying to expand his domain. The dunaschwabins, who traveled down the Danube (from where? when? how? why? who?) all I have is the what.		16/02/2008, 00:07:27 #: 200802918 post replyedit abuse? profile

	1344: Re: STILL SEARCHING I have a clip from the LDS-Mormons family history center. I cannot read it. a roviditesek magyarazata: np. =novendekpap; - St. n. = Stefaneumi novendek ; - od.= osztondijas ; - ism. = ismetlo; - izr. izraelita vallasu; - ref. = reformatus; - ag. ev. = agostai evangelikus; - gor. kath. = gorog katholikus vallasu. A rom. kath. ifjak vallasa nem jeleztetik. the np, St. n., od., ism., izr., ref., ag. ev., gor. kath.. are in bold script as well as the headline. But I have realized that what I am looking for is beyond t-cseb. up the danube, the origin of the family before homesteading in Dunacseb.		16/02/2008, 00:27:14 #: 200802919 post replyedit abuse? profile

	1344: Re: STILL SEARCHING Hi Gerd It's been awhile, I am back On The Trail again, But I think what I have realized is that I am looking to find the origination of the Schwindl, Eisman, family before homesteading in Tscheb, We were referred to as the dunaschwabens, as were many. Who chose to take our family down the Danube to a new land, how did they get there, when, why. My father, Mathias Schwindl claimed to have an Aunt, living in Austria, in the mountains. Is this the origin. I wonder. I am looking for documentation. I have never heard the family speak of Wilding's, But the wheat mill on the river Donau. how exciting. How may I find the family register for Tscheb, I understood that war bombing had destroyed most of these. Kat		16/02/2008, 00:47:24 #: 200802920 post replyedit abuse? profile

	fericzobor: Re: STILL SEARCHING a roviditesek magyarazata = expalantion of the abbreviatons np. =novendekpap = priest of the student St. n. = Stefaneumi novendek = student at the Stefaneum (school) od.= osztondijas = scholar (student receiveing a scholarship or stipendium) ism. = ismetlo = repeater (student who is repeating a schoolyear) izr. = izraelita vallasu = of Israelite (Jewish) religion ref. = reformatus = Reformed (religion) ag. ev. = agostai evangelikus = Agosta Evangelic (religion) gor. kath. = gorog katholikus vallasu = of Greek-Catholic religion A rom. kath. ifjak vallasa nem jeleztetik. = The Roman-Catholic religion of the boys is not indicated.		16/02/2008, 08:58:51 #: 200802930 post replyedit abuse? profile

	fericzobor: Re: STILL SEARCHING Sorry for the misspelling: I wanted to write "explanation", not "expalantion" (it happens when typing hastily)		16/02/2008, 09:01:34 #: 200802931 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING Hi, ok the Germans were setled in this area around 1750 by Maria Theresia. She wantes to settle people in this emty swamp land. The got money to go there with small boots. What they found was no farmland but a swamp ... The releatinship between Wilding and Schwindl was that my Grandpa's mother Maria Wildning(Lang) married Martin Schwindl after her husnab died during WWI For more details mail at : Gerd -a-t- wildings -d-o-t- de		17/02/2008, 15:19:33 #: 200802989 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING Hi, i have the familiy book from Tscheb(This is the original name)Your Grandma was born at August the 5th 1878 and was married with Michael Schwindl.Herr Father Adam Weber was born 9th Feb 1843 and her mother Barabara Wenzel 29 Dec 1840 in Barabutsch and die 18th Oct 1920.In this book the Weber Family goes back to Mathias Weber born 15th March 1781 in Gajdobra. (Gajdobra is one of the base sattlements in this area) Ok back to Schwindl family... Michael Schwindl born 11th Jan 1874 had 5 kis Mathias born 25 Oct 1899, died 6th Nov 1899, Michael born 4th Oct 1900 died 30th Dec 1900 Elisabeth born 6th Oct 1901, Katharina born 21st Feb 1904 ans Anna born 9th March 1907. for more datails wirite to Gerd -a-t- wildings -d-o-t- de		17/02/2008, 15:49:20 #: 200802991 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING Have a look at Tscheb.net. If have questions i can translate.		17/02/2008, 15:56:36 #: 200802993 post replyedit abuse? profile

	wildespess: Re: STILL SEARCHING have a look in tscheb.net. You may have realtives in Heidelberg Barabara Weber and Schwindl in Meckenbeuren all In Germany. For more deatils mail Groh -a-t- architektur-storedesign -d-o-t- de Roland Groh will halp you and can answer the most questions!		17/02/2008, 16:00:30 #: 200802996 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Emma: Re: STILL SEARCHING Maybe you could pass this postcard on for use in the Palanka (Deutsch, Backa Palanka) website? feldenzer -a-t- feldenzer -d-o-t- com has a copy of the family book in Palanka and also Duna Tscheb/ D.Cseb/Celarevo, and the family surnames are listed on that site type in Deutsch Palanka and you'll find it, also you will find other website connections to villages where there were many Danube Germans. DAvid Dreyer's website has extractions of ships/immigrants to U.S., and he also has a book of Military in the Austro-Hungary, this could possibly help you. I am looking for info. on the BORS /BORSCH family from Duna Tsceb/D.Cseb/Celarevo. Emma		10/09/2008, 18:26:25 #: 200809401 post replyedit abuse? profile

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