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bela: telefonok es kurvak
10/04/2005, 16:51:41
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George: Looking For Samel
Recently received information that my Grandfather (Gergely Samel) born in Gencs Hungary (now Ghenci Romania) had the following brothers and sisters:

Julianna Samel Brn. 02 Feb. 1891 Gencs
Piroska Samel Brn. 27 Dec.1895 Gencs
Rozalia Samel Brn. 18 Mar. 1898 Gencs
Gyorgi Samel Brn. 17 May 1900 Gencs
Erzsebet Samel Brn 04 Jun. 1901 Gencs

Their Father and mother are Gyorgy and Rakkel (Balogh) Samel.

Gergely Samel was born in Gencs in 1887 and immigrated to US in 1907.

Any information on these relatives or current relatives would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
15/01/2006, 15:20:40
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George: Looking For Samel
Recently received information that my Grandfather (Gergely Samel) born in Gencs Hungary (now Ghenci Romania) had the following brothers and sisters:

Julianna Samel Brn. 02 Feb. 1891 Gencs
Piroska Samel Brn. 27 Dec.1895 Gencs
Rozalia Samel Brn. 18 Mar. 1898 Gencs
Gyorgi Samel Brn. 17 May 1900 Gencs
Erzsebet Samel Brn 04 Jun. 1901 Gencs

Their Father and mother are Gyorgy and Rakkel (Balogh) Samel.

Gergely Samel was born in Gencs in 1887 and immigrated to US in 1907.

Any information on these relatives or current relatives would be greatly appreciated. Thank You.
15/01/2006, 15:21:51
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oktroberts: Re: telefonok es kurvak
My grandfather Szigmond Csomai and his 2 brothers are listed below. They listed Pal Nagy who immigrated 07/07/03 along with his wife Piruska as their contact on the ships manifest. They all came from Gencs

First Name: Zsiamond (corr. Zsigmond)
Last Name: Csomai
Ethnicity: Hungary Magyar (means Hungarian in Hungarian)
Last Place of Residence: Gencs
Date of Arrival: Apr 03, 1907
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Slavonia
Port of Departure: Fiume
Manifest Line Number: 0019

First Name: Omre (corr. Imre)
Last Name: Csomay
Ethnicity: Hungary Magyar
Last Place of Residence: Gens (corr. Gencs)
Date of Arrival: Jul 12, 1907
Age at Arrival: 28 Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Slavonia
Port of Departure: Fiume
Manifest Line Number: 0001

First Name: ...lek (corr.Elek)
Last Name: Czomai (archaic Hung. letter Cz=Cs(omai)
Ethnicity: Hungary
Last Place of Residence: Gucs (corr. Gencs)
Date of Arrival: Dec 07, 1906
Age at Arrival: 25y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Graf Waldersee
Port of Departure: Hamburg
Manifest Line Number: 0017

First Name: Pal
Last Name: Nagy
Ethnicity: Hungari, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Genes
Date of Arrival: Jul 07, 1903
Age at Arrival: 28y Gender: M Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Noordam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam
Manifest Line Number: 0014

First Name: Piroska
Last Name: Nagy
Ethnicity: Hungari, Slovak
Last Place of Residence: Genes
Date of Arrival: Jul 07, 1903
Age at Arrival: 24y Gender: F Marital Status: M
Ship of Travel: Noordam
Port of Departure: Rotterdam
Manifest Line Number: 0015
13/05/2006, 05:34:23
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George: Re: telefonok es kurvak
Wish I could help. Pal Nagy is unfamiliar to me. My grandfather married a Nagy (Ezster) from Bere who immigrated to US in 1907, along with her brother Sandor. Ezsters mother and brother Elek followed to US in 1911.

Don;t know if the Nagy's from Gencs are related to the Nagy's from Bere.

Have information on Nagy's from Bere if that would help you, let me know.
14/05/2006, 20:36:48
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eppendorf: Re: Looking For Samel
Hi!

Is Samel the punctual family name? I was born in in Gencs, but I dont remember that family name.
11/07/2006, 13:27:38
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eppendorf: Re: Looking For Samel
If ethnicity was slovak you have to see Magyargencs or Német gencs, thats are closly to Slovak republk
11/07/2006, 13:30:06
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George B: Re: Looking For Samel
"Is Samel the punctual family name? I was born in in Gencs, but I dont remember that family name."

Yes, Samel is the family name. Have been corresponding with niece of Gergely Samel, who now resides in Romania, Tirgu Mares.
11/07/2006, 13:59:50
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George B: Re: Looking For Samel
"If ethnicity was slovak you have to see Magyargencs or Német gencs, thats are closly to Slovak republk"

Ethnicity is Magyar. Have been able to trace origins to Gencs, Szatmar Hungary. Have not had to much luck on my grandmothers side (Nagy from Bere, Szatmar, Hu).
11/07/2006, 14:12:13
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oktroberts: Re: Looking For Samel
George, I was trying to see if your anchestors could have been on the same boat in1907 with my grandfather and granduncle but I can't find the name on Ellis Island
12/01/2008, 17:40:00
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oktroberts: Re: Looking For Samel
Eppendorf, being from Gencs does the name Csomai look familiar? I have hit dead ends everywhere I have looked on the Csomai genealogy. Zsigmond was born in Gencs in 1882 and immigrated in 1907. He married a girl Elizabeth Hazely(sp) born 1897 and immigrated in 1910. She may also have been from the area, but she died at about age 23 so very little is know about her.
12/01/2008, 17:45:23
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oktroberts: Herszeg-Hesrey-Atlyly
I am trying to find any information on my grandmother Elizabeth with one of the last names above. I have 3 documents with 3 different spellings of the last name. I tend to believe the Herczeg spelling because it comes from my mothers baptism record from the Magyar Reformed Church of Perth Amboy, NJ. I believe she was born about 1897 in Hungary and immigrated about 1910. She married my grandfather Zigmond Csomai-Czomai-Chomay somewhere about 1916, and I find the family on the 1920 Detroit, Mich Census. My grandmother died at a very early age sometime after 1920 and the story is that she had TB. I believe my mother was raised by Zigmond's brother James Chomay and his wife Elizabeth in Cleveland, Ohio.
05/06/2008, 22:51:32
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Zlatica : Re: Herczeg, Csomai/y
oktroberts

To me CHOMAY is an Americanized version of CSOMAY/CSOMAY.
HERCZEG looks Hungarian spelling.
What other documents do you have on your ancestor beside the baptismal record? Have you located her manifest?
She would come as Erzsa/Erzsebet or?
06/06/2008, 00:53:31
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Zlatica : Re: Gencs
oktroberts,

Magyargencs kisközség Vas Czelldömölki Hungary
Nagygencs kisközség Vas Szombathelyi Hungary
Kisgencs kisközség Gömör és Kis-Hont Rozsnyói Slovakia
Gencs nagyközség Szatmár Nagykárolyi Romania

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
06/06/2008, 00:58:58
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Zlatica : Re: Csomai Zsiamond
oktroberts

It would seem that (maybe) Zsigmond was naturalized citizen in 1935. Notation by his name on the manifest.
www.ellisislandrecords.org
Most of the time our ancestors married within same region, religion (few exceptions) but for sure one common language to communicate in. Possible the 10 miles radius would apply for the village to be that far apart in "old country". Of course, there are exceptions. Your Elizabeth ancestor could have come thru Philadelphia or Baltimore port. Did you try one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org to try to find her manifest?
06/06/2008, 01:09:32
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vaczy: Re: Looking For Samel
Yes.. :) my mother name is Csomay :)
19/09/2008, 18:21:48
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oktroberts: Re: Gencs
Can anybody translate this post?
Magyargencs kisközség Vas Czelldömölki Hungary
Nagygencs kisközség Vas Szombathelyi Hungary
Kisgencs kisközség Gömör és Kis-Hont Rozsnyói Slovakia
Gencs nagyközség Szatmár Nagykárolyi Romania

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
23/11/2008, 23:38:36
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Zlatica: Re: megye map
Why not ask the person that posted the information, me.
Those are the towns/villages that are found on old http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 in Vas megye, Gomor megye and Szatmar megye. The information was from www.bogardi.com
Which one are you interested in?
2 are in Hungary, 1 in Slovakia and 1 in Romania (now).
23/11/2008, 23:54:24
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oktroberts: Re: megye map
Zlatica, now I feel stupid for not realizing what you posted. I thought I had finally nailed down Gencs as being just southeast of Nagy-Karoly in what must be Szatmar Varmegye. Is that the one that is part of Romania now?
24/11/2008, 01:04:18
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Zlatica : Re: megye map
oktroberts :)

Gencs, Szatmar megye, district Nagykaroly, HU now Ghenci, RO
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/szatmar.jpg left side of the map below small 45 in yellow is Nagykaroly and South is Gencs
24/11/2008, 01:13:07
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oktroberts: Re: megye map
Zlatica, I have done a search in Romania, but Ghenci is not listed anywhere. This is the site I was looking on.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Cities_in_Romania
24/11/2008, 02:00:44
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Zlatica : Re: megye map
Oktroberts

Nagykaroly is Carei, RO
found it:
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=47.6333&longitude=22.5333&size=big
24/11/2008, 02:10:00
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Zlatica : Re: CSOMAY in Carei
oktroberts

In Carei's phone book CSOMAY Maria.
CSOMAIs in Satu-Mare and Cauas
www.whitepages.ro
24/11/2008, 02:16:03
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oktroberts: Re: megye map
Zlatica, thanks again. I was thrown off when Ghenci wasn't listed on that link.
24/11/2008, 04:25:27
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miklos: farok
29/08/2010, 16:05:39
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