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Tremmel: Nagy,Mail család

Keresem a jásdi Mail és Nagy családok tagjait és leszármazottait,valamint olyannal is szivesen felvenném a kapcsolatot,aki ismeri a falu múltját.

28/02/2006, 18:53:23
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Helen: Jasd, Veszprem county

Jasd-i leszarmazas vagyok. Keresem Kottyan, Janaszek, Csincsi, Huiber, Marek, Bolcsik, Sperai, Luksik csaladokat, magyarorszagon es USA-ban.

06/07/2006, 19:50:32
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Tremmel: Re: Jasd, Veszprem county

Kedves Helen!

Janászek család van/volt Csatkán,Súron,Bakonycsernyén.(mind Jásdhoz közel)
Marek névvel is találkoztam már,Polcsik család is van Csatkán,és Luksikok is,akik Jásdról származnak.
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Tremmel Imre

06/07/2006, 20:06:22
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helen: Re: Jasd, Veszprem county

Szia Tremmel,
Nagyon koszonom segitsegedet. Megtalaltam Luksik Andras-t Csatkan. Szamitok irni neki, hatha tudd valamit a jasd-i Luksikokrol. Ismered oket, vagy pedig honet tudod hogy jasdrol mentek Csatkara?
A csatkai Janaszekal talalkoztam. Aszt mondta nekem hogy se hogyan se rokonom lehet!!
Olvasni tuds-e angolul?
Helen

06/07/2006, 20:34:59
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Tremmel: Re: Jasd, Veszprem county

Kedves Helen!

Igen,bármit eltudok olvasni angolul,az írással van gond :)
Luksik András személyes jó barátom.Csatka történetével foglalkozom,és a családok eredetével.Az anyakönyvben szerepelt a jásdi származás.Megadom a cimem,ott irhatok még adatokat. tremmel -a-t- citromail -d-o-t- hu
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06/07/2006, 21:13:55
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paben: Pupish-Jasd

Looking for relatives or records. My grandfather, Steven Pupish, born November 26, 1888, left Jasd in 1906 to come to the US. His siblings were Michael, Mary, Katherine, Theresa & Anna. His parents were Ana Matyus and Michael Pupish Jr.

18/07/2006, 03:51:23
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Helen: Re: Pupis-Jasd

Hello,

I think I can provide some info about the Pupis family. Note that it is written Pupis in Hungary.
From ellisisland.org, I think your grandfather was Istvan (Steve) Pupis who arrived in the US on Oct 9, 1906 at age 18yrs, thus born around 1888 so I am presuming that is he.

There is also a Maria Pupis (spelled Pupics on ellisisland.org)who arrived in the US on Apr 7, 1910 at 16 yrs of age, thus born around 1884. Her father in Jasd was Mihaly (Michael) Pupis .

Also from ellisisland.org, Katalin (Katherine) also 16 yrs when she arrived in US on Apr 26, 1912, thus born around 1896. Father was Mihaly Pupis in Jasd.

As for Anna Pupis, she married Marton (Martin)Kottyan, who was a first cousin three times removed to me, about 1929. Anna was born about 1909 and died about 1970. Anna's parents were Mihaly Pupis and a Matyus, whose name I do not have, but presumably from your info, was Anna. This information was given to me in November, 2005 by Anna and Marton's son, Mihaly (Michael)Kottyan, born Sept 4, 1942, who is my second cousin twice removed.

I do not know anything about your Michael, and Theresa Pupis. Do you know if they survived infancy and married in Jasd? I was told by Mihaly that only Istvan, Maria and Katalin went to the US. Mihaly remembers Istvan as being referred to as Pista-bacsi. Katalin was the only one of the three who ever returned to visit Jasd. I have seen photos of these Pupis siblings' families taken in the US, but Mihaly does not know which is which, only that they are photos of American relatives. If you send me your address I can send you copies of the copies I have.

If you are further interested, you can view the Jasd microfilms through the Mormon church and thus obtain data about the Pupis family between 1828 and 1895. Or if you are interested in only a few dates, I could look them up for you as I have the Jasd microfilms on permanent loan at the nearest Mormon church to where I live.

Although the Pupis family is not directly in my family tree, I would still be interested in more details about the ones in the US. Your relatives in Jasd would also be interested. Tell me about Istvan (Steven)...name of his wife, her birth date and place and also their marriage date and data about their children. Is your name Pupish?

Are you in touch with Maria and Katherine's families?

Helen

18/07/2006, 22:42:13
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paben: Re: Pupis-Jasd

Helen,
Yes! Everything you note matches my information perfectly. I remember when my mother's aunt katherine went back to Hungary for a visit. My one aunt told me that she believed Michael Pupis was a judge and that he owned vineyards. Michael Jr. was in World War I and was gassed or had a heart problem and died in 1916. I don't know about Theresa.

My grandfather, Steven Pupish, married Elizabeth Sheder, who had come from Tes. They settled in Elizabeth, then Union, New Jersey where they had 4 children -Steven (drowned as a teen), Elizabeth, Margaret (my mother), and Judith. They are all deceased now, with my mom (and dad 6 weeks later) dying last year. I guess that's what set me off on this search.

I don't seem to see your email address anywhere...do we just post it here? or am I missing something? I live in the US - New Jersey - and am happy to get this info. in English as I cannot read Hungarian. Pat

19/07/2006, 00:04:46
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Helen: Hello Pat from Helen

Hello Pat,
So happy to hear from you so quickly. I will be letting our cousin Mihaly (Michael) Kottyan in Jasd know
that we have contacted each other. He has two adult daughters, lovely young women, who have EMail and know some English and I can forward their contact info if you are interested.

I am busy getting dinner on the table just now, but contact me at hventin -a-t- simcom.on.ca -d-o-t- As you can tell, I live in Canada.
Helen

20/07/2006, 00:00:18
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Helen: Re: EMail

Hi Pat,
Send me your EMail via a Reply to this. I notice that mine did not go through quite right....it is hventin@simcom dot on dot ca

20/07/2006, 01:15:44
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Helen: Re: EMail

Hello Pat,

I just found the photos of the Pupis siblings. There is one that shows a man and woman of about middle age, average heights with three daughters, the youngest being about 10 yrs(?) and a boy. The photo is dated May 1961. Could this be your grandparents and their family, including your mother?
Helen

20/07/2006, 01:46:25
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Helen: Spitzer family in Veszprem

I am looking for any information about a Spitzer family who lived in Veszprem county, near Jasd or Szapar.

20/07/2006, 01:58:51
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helen: Rapali, Rapoli

Rapali / Rapoli csaladtagokat keresek. I am looking for information about Rapali / Rapoli family members in Hungary,USA and Canada.

hventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca

07/09/2006, 03:27:18
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Jasd - Nagy forum: Tremmel: Jásdi Nagy-ok

Jasd - Major forum: Tremmel: Jásdi Majorok

Jasd - Huiber forum: Tremmel: Huiber család

Jasd - Huiber forum: Helen: Re: Jasd-i Huiber családok

Maryann : Stefanko/Bakor families

I am trying to get information on Stefanko and Bakor families that came from Jasd, Hungary in the late 1800's to early 1900's. I understand that Veszprem is
where I was told I could possibly get records of birth, baptism etc. Would there be a Catholic church there. I have been writing to so many places with no results I was hoping if I put these two names on this site, perhaps there is someone who can help me. I do know that the Bakor family owned a flour mill in that area.

28/03/2008, 15:24:41
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helen: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Hello Maryann,
I am very familiar with the Jasd RC church records which stop at 1895. There are also Jasd vital records in the State records of nearby Tes which are 1896-1906. Films of these can be ordered through the Mormon Family History Centres. They are the best way to get info about Jasd.

Yes, there are many Bachor, Bakor, Backor and Stefanko names. Some are married into my family line. Do write me anytime if you have questions. Always glad to share.
Helen

28/03/2008, 16:32:00
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paben: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Hi Maryann,
Delighted to see a posting in English (so I can read it, without using my five dictionaries).
Helen, who recently responded to you, is truly the expert on Jásd... and a wonderful person!
My husband, son & I visited Jásd last year at this time and met with my Pupis relatives there, drank wine from my greatgrandfather's vineyard, ate heartily, and loved every moment.
Certainly, as an English-only speaking person, I found it much easier to look at the Mormon microfilm tapes here than to try to get access to records in Hungary. I also found names of family descendants still living in several villages in Vesprem county simply by checking an online international telephone directory. I believe Jásd has their village directory on their website.
Good luck with your search....mine has been unbelievably fulfilling .... and unending.
Pat

28/03/2008, 16:56:20
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paben: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

28/03/2008, 16:56:54
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paben: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

MaryAnn,
There was a John Stefanko who was the godparent for Stephen Pupish Jr in 1916 in Elizabeth, NJ. As my Pupis relatives came from Jásd I assume this was a friend from the same village.
Pat

30/03/2008, 22:38:49
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Maryann: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

We are trying to take your advice but not doing very well.
I did go to the Mormon family centre but have plans to go away for a month or longer to visit children.It would have taken no less than 2 weeks for the microfilm to come in and then it would stay there for a month. That is the whole time that I would be gone so I decided to wait until I returned in June. You mentioned a church in Jasd but don't know how to get in touch with it and figured I'd wait on that too since it would probably be on the microfilm. I thought that once we found the village that they all came from it would be easy but obviously not. Any thing you can tell me would be appreciated - do they have an address for the city hall in Tes? Right now we are trying to find out more about the rest of the brothers that migrated here and never heard from or about since. Going through census and military records etc. Thank you for pointing me in the right direction and I'm sure it'll all come together.
Maryann

15/04/2008, 22:48:25
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hventin: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Hello Maryann,
Last I heard, the new priest's name is HALMAGYI ZOLTAN. You can address your letter to:

Plebania,
8424 Jasd
Kossuth utca
Hungary

Postponing ordering the films is not a bad idea. It does take a long time to go over the entries from 1828 to 1895 and I ended up by extending the date twice and that means the film is kept permanently at the Fam Hist Lib. One of my better "investments, as I can't believe how many times I have returned to that film to look up discrepancies and errors all made by me and to investigate lateral lines e.g 4th cousins five times removed!

Best thing to do is get every bit of info from the Jasd and Tes films first. Get the film numbers on line so when you go to the Library you can just hand over the numbers you want. By the way for Tes, you would want only the State (allami), not church, records for 1896 - 1906.

No guarantee that the priest will respond.

I know for a fact,( because I tried!) that the Tes town council will not reply. And the person in charge is even from Jasd and is distantly related to me!

Just for fun, look up the Jasd site:
jasd.hu
Click on "beleppes" or something similar, in the middle of the page, towards the bottom, sort of. Then click on everything that is clickable.

Would you like me to alert my relatives that someone is looking for Bakors and Stefankos and would like to contact them? Actually now that I think of it the mother of one of my closer cousins was a Stefanko; even he might be able to help.

Let me know if I can be of help. Hey, we might even be cousins!
Helen

16/04/2008, 23:54:51
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Maryann: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Thank you so much. There is a lot of information and It would be great if you could contact anyone regarding my relatives. I Had gone to the Jasd site before and didn't realize until you told me where to go that there was so many sites there unfortunately though, all in Hungarian.
I did see the telephone book and it could have been a phone book from my hometown - the names were so familiar.
I went back to check on the name Pupis on the manifest and was surprised to find that his destination was Hastings-on-Hudson,NY which was the destination of my grandfather and all of his brothers. One question: you suggested that I get the numbers of the films that I would need online - how do I go about doing that? It would also be great for any info on the Bakor family - I would appreciate anything you can do and it would be awesome to have another cousin!!
Maryann

17/04/2008, 03:30:42
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paben: Jásd

MaryAnn & Helen,
I leave you two to figure this out, but on the Ellis Island records a ship arriving on Jan 18, 1905 had several passengers from Jásd. Two of them were: Marton Stefanko, 18 years old and Janos Kottyan, 17 years old. I had trouble reading across the manifest to see if they went to the same places or not. But I bet these two teens were friends by the end of that voyage, if not before.
MaryAnn, have you been to Hastings-on-the-Hudson? I used to visit there when I was a child.
Pat

17/04/2008, 15:37:23
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Maryann: Re: Jásd

To Pat: It's amazing all the names that pop up as I'm doing this search - I was born in Hastings-on-Hudson and my grandfather,Marton lived there too. there was also a Joseph Stefanko that lived there and until a couple of months when another cousin of mine,that had been doing research, wrote to tell me that according to the info on the manifest, Joseph was the one that sponsored him and was listed as brother and the destination was Hastings. At some point there must have been falling out and it was never mentioned. One of my very good friends' grandfather was Joseph and we thought we may have been distant relatives - but were both shocked to find out that they were brothers. Incidentally, her family and mine all lived on the same street. I now live in a village right next to Hastings. There are a lot of names near my grandfathers but it is hard to tell where the ditto marks belong and so hard to read. I did see a Janos Kottyan in a little group there but not the destination. Perhaps a group of friends traveling together?? This is so exciting and also very frustrating.
Maryann

18/04/2008, 20:44:10
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paben: Re: Jásd

Maryann,
My grandfather& his siblings all went to Hastings in the early 1900's. He, Steven Pupis, moved out to New Jersey, but his sister Mary married a Rapoli and lived for many years in Hastings. Her daughter married a Steve Resko and I recently connected with THEIR daughter, Mary Elizabeth. Mary would have been born in 1942 (in case you went to school with her!)
Try emailing me directly at paben48 -a-t- comcast -d-o-t- net
While there are no more Pupis names in Jásd, there are plenty of descendants AND the retired priest there turns out to be a distant cousin on my father's side!
I know what you mean about the names. When I finally walked through the cemetery in Jásd all the names seemed familiar to me.....from going thru the Mormon tapes. Those village people tended to stay in one place (making our job easier).
Pat

18/04/2008, 22:28:20
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Maryann: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Helen:
I don't understand, where do I get the numbers of the film to ask for when I go to the Mormon family center? I am so not familiar with microfilm. I am assuming that I go there to order the film with the numbers all ready but have no idea where I would get those numbers.
I am so into this - I am having my cousin write to the church in Jásd in Hungarian. Thank you for the address and all other help. I am praying that this is not hopeless.
Maryann

19/04/2008, 17:49:02
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Richard : Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

09/07/2008, 00:33:22
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Richard Stefanko: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

I am one of three sons of Frank Stefanko, who was one of seven sons of Martin(Marton)Stefanko and Marie Bakor. My older brother has begun tracking our dad's family with the help of some newly discovered cousins in New York(Hastings-on-Hudson). I just found this site on the web. Ihave no idea what its about. perhaps someone could explain what this site is?

09/07/2008, 00:43:36
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Zlatica : Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Richard

The site is for genealogy. You posted in the right place. Did you try www.ancestry.com/community and http://genforum.com
From where were your STEFANKO/BAKOR families?

www.surnamenavigator.org
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.felix-game.ca

09/07/2008, 01:39:43
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Maryann Sheridan (Stefanko): Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

We have sent all of the information to your brother. Bonnie and I have been working on the Stefanko family genealogy for months and have sent him all the manifests, pictures etc. that we have found. I'm sure he will share it with you. You need to read all the posts above to find out how far we've gotten. M.Sheridan

10/07/2008, 16:32:08
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Richard Stefanko: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

The transport information specifies the hometown of Marton as JASD hungary. I have no information about Marie Bakor.It appears that my grandfather was sponsored by John Stefanko

12/07/2008, 19:59:26
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Richard Stefanko: Re: Stefanko/Bakor families

Thanks Maryann
I suspected this was you, although I knew you as Marion. Mike has passed along the information you gave him, it is stil difficult to figure out who is who when presented as conversational. Mike has made an attempt at a family tree. Has he sent that to you or Bonnie. I still don't know who Bonnie is! And Mike wasn't sure Cousin daughter of which brother? I just happened upon this forum Mike didn't mention that you told him about it, and I see no reference in your correspondence.

12/07/2008, 20:10:22
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Helen: Re: Jásd

Re the Janos Kottyan who arrived Ellis Island in 1905: I have met his son,Joe, who is living in Bucyrus, Ohio and is a fourth cousin to me. Of course Joe was born in the US and does not know much about his ancestry but I just thought I would share this connection.

I have made some inquiries in Jasd about the Bakors and Stefankos and can set up contact with descendants but first please provide me with all the info from the Catholic records of Jasd and the state (allami) records, 1895 - 1906 of Tes so I can help you.
Helen

08/08/2008, 00:45:07
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Maryann Stefanko Sheridan: Re: Jásd

I took your advice and ordered the Jasd microfilm and just went to check it out on Saturday. I was very disappointed- the woman that worked there set it up for me and I didn't
realize that it would look so much like the manifest on the ships. It was very blurry but I did find a couple of Stefankos, one in 1832 (couldn't make out the first name) and the second one in 1852 and possibly a Bakor in 1853. I had a splitting headache and backache and just before I left I started fooling around with the lever on the front and it suddenly got quite a bit clearer but ready to close and had to leave so hopefully I can try again either on Thurs or Sat. next week...

14/10/2008, 05:41:33
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