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	christmasbaby49: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I have finally found the remeining family member of my grandfather, Martin Andrew Kichta. His siblings (George, Joseph, John, and Irene using the surname Kichty) came to America under the name of Kykta (originally Kyktadragos or Kyktadragas) from what is listed as Kravjar or Kravjan on the Ellis Island Records and on some census records. We can't find Kravjar/Kravjan on any maps. Does anyone have any ideas? We are looking for other family members as well.		28/01/2004, 13:15:16 #: 200401439 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I know of a town now named Kravany, Slovak Republic that had the name Kravjan, Krawjan, Kraviany, Erzsebethaza. http://mapy.atlas.sk The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at : http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Szepes megye www.zoznamst.sk SK's phone site A surname KIKTA, KUCHTA exists in Slovak Republic but no listing in Kravany's phone book. The name Kikta does list in a village Hranovnica which is about 8.5km from Kravany and in Spisske Bystre which is only 3km from Kravany. www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator www.slovaklinks.com www.slovakfolkcrafts.com www.slovakinstitute.com www.mytarg.net http://vivisimo.com www.village.sk www.our-slovakia.com www.slovak.org The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center)website is listing a church records from Kravjan/Kravany. You can order the films and gather ancestral information. www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording. www.iabsi.com/gen/public/CensusMain.htm www.slavicroots.com/SlovakRusynRoots.html		28/01/2004, 13:46:57 #: 200401442 post replyedit abuse? profile

	lasondra: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I am also researching my husband's Kikta Dragos family from Kravany. In the church records (birth, marriage, death) I have seen them go by several variations. Sometimes just Kikta or Dragos and sometimes they use both names as a last name. I have been using microfilm at my local LDS center and it is surprisingly easy to read. While it is in Latin & Hungarian, it is in a table style format and fairly good penmanship. If you have some names & dates I can look to see what records might be available on microfilm. The latest birth records start at 1899 & go back to 1676! My husband's family came to the Youngstown, Ohio area in the early 1910's. Where are yours?		01/04/2004, 20:05:08 #: 20040417 post replyedit abuse? profile

	kravjar: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty My name is Julius Kravjar, my father was born in Eastern slovakia near Presov. I do not know other people with family name Kravjar except our family.		06/04/2004, 11:06:39 #: 20040476 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty The Slovak Republic's phone site is listing 10 KRAVJAR / KRAVJAROVA (female). www.zoznamst.sk http://mapy.atlas.sk for locating a town in SK Are you researching your Kravjar roots? 4 Kravjar and 1 KRAVIAR passed thru Ellis Island to America.		06/04/2004, 13:18:32 #: 20040481 post replyedit abuse? profile

	kravjar: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Any details in the matter of 4 Kravjar and 1 KRAVIAR passed thru Ellis Island to America?		06/04/2004, 13:26:21 #: 20040484 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Kravjar, Kraviar So than you are researching your KRAVJAR roots? What sort of details you need / want? You can access Ellis Island website to see the manifests for free. You do need to register but no money involved. To locate an EI manifest in One Step use : www.stevemorse.org You need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research and I take it you must know it since you mentioned around Presov. http://mapy.atlas.sk for locating a town in SK The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) have filmed the church records of SK so if you know the village of your ancestor check out their website for the films, which you can order and gather ancestral information. www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording. www.iabsi.com/gen/public www.slovaklinks.com www.village.sk www.our-slovakia.com www.spectacularslovakia.sk www.slovakfolkcrafts.com www.slovakinstitute.com www.slovak.org www.ncsml.org www.cgsi.org A map of Austria-Hungary : http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at : http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Saros to locate Eperjes which was the old name for Presov, SK. www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator http://vivisimo.com www.presov.sk		06/04/2004, 13:38:22 #: 20040485 post replyedit abuse? profile

	christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I am the great granddaughter of Martin Andrew Kichta, who came to America around 1895 from, if I have the right Ellis Island records, Kravany. Martin and Mary had five children, Paul, Coleman, John, Irene, and Phillip and lived in Pittsburgh, PA and Sanford, VA. My grandfather is John Joseph and he and his wife Alleatha Doris White had five children: Arlis, Florence, Mary, John and Harry Herman, my father. I have recently found some of the siblings of Martin who lived in Pittsburgh also and were only minutes away from my family and we never knew them since they went by the name of Kichty. Both families have stories that the family name was originally "Kichtadragos" or "Kyktadragos."		10/04/2004, 03:02:23 #: 200404153 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty It is possible that the name Dragos was used as an alias if there were several families in the village by the surname Kichta. Only Kravany's church records would provide that answer.		10/04/2004, 04:24:58 #: 200404155 post replyedit abuse? profile

	lasondra: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Christmasbaby49, I think we may have a connection! My husband's great-great grandmother was Maria Kikta Dragos from Kravany. I have just started my research, but one of her brothers (George) came to America in 1900 and stated that he was going to stay with his brother, Martin Kikta who lived at 6374 Penn. Ave in Pittsburgh, PA. I'm fairly sure this would be the same Martin Kikta as your great grandfather. Does this address ring a bell with you? Please feel free to contact me privately if you want to explore this connection further. I would be very interested in hearing about the other siblings of Martin you found. Look forward to hearing from you, LaSondra		12/04/2004, 05:12:17 #: 200404207 post replyedit abuse? profile

	kravjar: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I know that only my grandfather Jan were in the US befor the 1st World War. And it is possible that he was registered as Kraviar. May I know who else from Kravjar / Kraviar came to US? Thanks		15/03/2006, 15:34:32 #: 200603900 post replyedit abuse? profile

	kraviarova: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Julius Kravjar - I think you are a brother of my grand father, Jozef.		10/07/2006, 15:41:26 #: 200607391 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Robert Dragos: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Kravany aka Kravjan is not in Hungary but rather in Slovakia a few miles south of Poprad in Spis County in the the northeast sector of Slovakia. My grandfather's father was a Kikta born in Kravjan (Hungarian spelling) for the village now spelled Kravany. Some time after his birth the name Dragos was added to his surname for reason I am still seeking.		20/07/2006, 16:22:15 #: 200607834 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Dragos: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Regard to use of Kikta Dragos combination. My guess for whatever it is worth; because villages were usuall quite small in numbers Kravany historically appears to number about 600 I just assumed that in order to avoid inter marriage problems the church advocated the remedy. For instance; in my fammily going back about six generations a Kikta had several children by his first wife who died fairly young. Kikta then remarried and raised a family larger than the first and it is those descendents that now use the name Dragos.		20/07/2006, 16:49:06 #: 200607836 post replyedit abuse? profile

	kravjar: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty 4 Kravjar and 1 KRAVIAR passed thru Ellis Island to America. How to receive the data concerning this people? Many thanks in advance.		27/07/2006, 15:50:20 #: 2006071008 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty kravjar You need to register to (no money) www.ellisislandrecords.org to look at the Ellis Island manifests. Also try www.stevemorse.org		27/07/2006, 21:18:12 #: 2006071020 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Juraj: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty on my website there is all headstones from KRAVANY cemetery: http://www.cisarik.com/cemetery-kravany.htm I hope it will help you. my e-mail: jurajcisarik -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com		30/07/2006, 21:48:26 #: 2006071100 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Chips53: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I just tripped across this forum and I hope it is still active!! My grandfather was George Kikta, brother of Martin and Maria (or Mary) from Kravany in the Slovak Republic. I have traced my grandfather here in the states and went thru the LDS microfilms to trace his family. George and Mary settled in Youngstown, OH, and many of their respective descendants are still in NE Ohio. I am descended from George's second marriage to the widow Mary (Pavuk) Koperdak. I found as much info as I could on his first marriage as well. I have no info on his brother Martin or that side of the family and would dearly LOVE to know more! I know that Martin settled in the Pittsburgh area and used the name Kichty? I will gladly share all the info and photos I have. I was born too late to know him but I have cousins who did and have been trying to write down as many stories as I could pull from their memories. Please, if any of you are related to me, my email is chips76309 -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com Thank you!		30/08/2008, 02:34:21 #: 2008081239 post replyedit abuse? profile

	DCK: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I too just stumbled on this forum. My great-grandfather was Stephen Kikta, youngest brother of Andrew, Maria, George, Martin and Joannes Kikta. My understanding was that Stephen was born in Hranovnica. I am trying to find descendents of this line still in Slovakia. -DCK		05/09/2008, 02:41:26 #: 200809171 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kikta DCK You might want to "stumble" on to www.slovensko.com www.iabsi.com/gen/public http://genforum.com www.ancestry.com/community http://slovakia.eunet.sk if you have not already. Village Hranovnica has 2539 inhabitants. www.obce.info http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/?w=hranovnica&s=exact&d=kssj4&d=psp&d=scs&d=sss&d=peciar&d=hssjV&d=obce&d=priezviska&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 Kikta, Anna Hranovnica, Czechoslovakia Kikta, Erzsebet Szepesveghely, Hungary Kikta, Gyorgy Szepasveghely, Hungary Kikta, Janos Veghely Kikta, Janos Sz. Ujhely Kikta, Jozsef Sa. Veghely Kikta, Jozsef Sa. Veghely Kikta, Kata Ls Vegholf Kikta, Maria Ls Vegholf Kikta, Maria Sz. Ujhely Kikta, Maria Sz. Ujhely Kikta, Matyas Vegholy Kikta, Zuzsanna Srefresocgheby, Hungary SK's phone book: www.zoznamst.sk KIKTA does list in Hranovnica's phone book.		05/09/2008, 05:37:59 #: 200809175 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kikta in Ellis Island DCK Forgot to mention that the KIKTAs that I listed I found in www.ellisislandrecords.org LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) site is listing Roman Catholic church records of Hranovnica. http://www.hranovnica.sk/ www.slovenskyraj.sk www.helenezx.homestead.com Slovak Pride Index A first name site: http://www.progenealogists.com/hungary/names.htm		05/09/2008, 05:43:25 #: 200809176 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Chips53: Re: Kikta in Ellis Island Thank you for the help and the links! About your ancestor Stephen: the family story I was given said that the youngest sibling was blind and as the others left Slovakia they each signed over their share of any property to this blind brother. Does any of that sound familiar? I found my grandfather George's records in the LDS microfilms for Kravany church records, where the name "Dragos" just appears and then disappears. The family lore on "Dragos" is that the name Kikta was so ubiquitous that Dragos was tacked on to distinguish that particular family. Anyone else hear that?		05/09/2008, 15:24:04 #: 200809191 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: "alias" Your welcome Chips53 Yes, an "alias" was used when there were more families with the same surname in a village.		05/09/2008, 15:35:01 #: 200809192 post replyedit abuse? profile

	christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I used to get notices from Radix when someone posted to one of my inquiries but haven't for a long time and I don't remember to check it often enough. To my surprise I found your post this morning. I am happy to say that I am the great grandaughter of Martin Andrew Kichta (Kikta). He never used the name Kichty as far as I can tell from my documents. The only one that I know that used that name was Joseph (b. 1872) and brother of Martin. Since I don't know exactly how you are related (I have 14 George Kichta's (Kichty, Kikta) I'll need to probe a little to find out who you are and how your line flows. I have a full descendant chart and photos I could share when I have your info. We may have already "spoken" online, but I don't have this e-mail address in my records anywhere so I don't believe so. I have my ancestry back to Andres (1812) and Joannes (1815) Kikta Dragos (my ggggrandfather, in Hranovnica, Slovakia (Grenicz, Hungary). I've also been in touch with many others in Ohio that you may have already contact. Let me know. Rebecca Kichta Miller This image is attached to the message. To see the image in original size, please click on it.		07/11/2008, 19:30:24 #: 200811276 post replyedit abuse? profile

	alk447: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Rebecca: I stumbled on this site by accident, doing a search on my grandfather, Joseph Kikta. I am the granddaughter of Joseph Kikta and daughter of the late Joseph Kichty. He had siblings Margaret, Mary, George (Kallman), Albert (Bert), Irene, and a sibling who passed in infancy. Irene just turned 95 years old and is the only remaining sibling alive. I have a cousin who has worked on our family tree--my mother currently has the copy. I briefly scanned it, but don't remember many details and could get the copy next time I visit her. We had many cousins in Ohio. If you get this, please feel free to write. Thanks, Alice Kichty(also my grandmother's name who was married to Joseph Kikta).		26/01/2009, 02:14:38 #: 2009011682 post replyedit abuse? profile

	ckichty: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Hello, I am Craig Kichty grand son of Albert Kichty and son of Joseph W Kichty. Irene Kichty just recently passed away and lived with her brother Kallman until his death in Mt. Oliver neither married or had children as far as I know. Albert Kichty had 3 children Butch, Mary Alice, and Joseph W. Butch had 2 girls and Mary Alice none. Joseph W had 2 children Eric and Craig Kichty. I too was told that our name was Kikta Dragos. My father thought we were from Poland. Ellis Island says Hungary.		19/07/2009, 01:03:19 #: 200907733 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Chips53: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty One thing to remember about Ellis Island - they recorded the country as it existed AT THAT TIME. Part of what is now Slovakia was once controlled by Hungary and it is this part of Slovakia, very near what is now the border with Poland, where Kravany (Cravjan, Cravjany and so on) is located. It's easy to get confused. I have to go thru my records to see if we are related. I'm finding new cousins all the time since finding this forum!		19/07/2009, 03:09:15 #: 200907736 post replyedit abuse? profile

	christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Craig, thanks for the info. I did see the obituary for Irene Kichty, but I was out of town at the time and couldn't attend the services. This image is attached to the message. To see the image in original size, please click on it.		24/07/2009, 22:12:25 #: 200907976 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Alice, so sorry to take so long to contact you. The last three times ending in computer lock ups but I thought I'd try one more time on this rainy Labor Day. Please contact me offline so we can compare notes. I've been in contact with the Ohio "Kiktas" and have all of their information and have sent them our link. Would like to be able to update your line in my charts as well as theirs. Rebecca Kichta Miller, great granddaughter of Martin Andrew Kichta rebeccamiller49 -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com This image is attached to the message. To see the image in original size, please click on it.		07/09/2009, 20:13:10 #: 200909289 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I believe I was in touch with your mother, Kathleen, a few years ago and we shared some information. I have since found a few more branches of the Kikta tree, some in Ohio and some in Uniontown, PA, all descendants of Joannes Kikta Dragos and Elizabeth Pavlicsko. I have had a few offline replies about the "Dragos" suffix on the Kikta name and all make sense, but there's nothing definitive. If you would like more info, contact me offline at rebeccamiller49 -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com This image is attached to the message. To see the image in original size, please click on it.		07/09/2009, 20:20:26 #: 200909290 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Christmasbaby49: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Any luck finding a connection to our Pennsylvania or Ohio Kichta, Kichty, Kikta relatives?		07/09/2009, 20:21:38 #: 200909291 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Chips53: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I am beginning to think just about everyone here on this thread is related if we take the records back far enough. That being said, is it possible to somehow get together and compare our trees? I live in TX but am free to travel. Most of my family is still in NE Ohio, the Youngstown - Cleveland area, and we have a daughter in Chicago, so we visit those areas at least once a year. I'm up for a "Kikta Clan" gathering. Lee descendant of George Kikta (b 1870 Kravjan, Slovakia, son of Johannes Kikta and Mary Pavlicsko)		07/09/2009, 22:08:44 #: 200909296 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Chips53: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty And of course, I mistyped the name on my previous post. (Too many Kiktas, too many Pavlicskos...) My grandfather was George Kikta, first wife Mary Pavlicsko. His parents were Johannes Dragos Kikta and ELIZABETH Pavlicsko.) Sorry if I confused anyone! Lee		07/09/2009, 22:24:57 #: 200909298 post replyedit abuse? profile

	bluzytrix: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty My name is Akeem, son of Tami Kikta, grandson of Henry Kikta and great-grandson of Michael Kikta. I'm interested in getting in contact with anyone in the Ohio area that knows the Kikta family. I don't know the parents of Michael Kikta but know that he originally settled in Cleveland, OH for a while, moved to Oneida, NY, which spawned the Kikta lineage there and then later died in Cleveland. He was married to woman by the name of Anna Kucher. Michael worked for The Fanner Manufacturing Co. in Brookside Park, Cleveland, OH.		02/01/2010, 05:46:46 #: 20100148 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Akeem You might want to post on state of Ohio, Cuyahoga county Ancestry board and on http://genforum.com www.411.com www.surnamenavigator.org		02/01/2010, 06:03:06 #: 20100149 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Ricktakikta: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty I'm checking in to represent the Michigan Kikta clan. My name is Richard (Rick) Kikta, born 1961 in Flint, Michigan. I'm just beginning to trace my family tree, and am posting here today hoping to make connections and progress. I've not yet seen any other posts in this thread from my immediate known family, so I'll share a little of my lineage in hopes of connecting with others who might be related or who might offer their insight toward piecing together the family puzzle. I am one of four brothers. Our father is Gary Lee Kikta, Our mother is Arlene M. (Bundy) Kikta. Gary's only sibling is his brother Kenneth Robert Kikta. Gary L. and Kenneth R. are the sons of Chester Kikta, their mother is Mildred O. (Woodworth) Kikta. Chester Kikta's father and mother are: Alex Kikta and Flora (----) Kikta. That's as far as I can go. Happy to communicate with anyone on this family topic. Regards, Rick Kikta		11/01/2012, 08:31:36 #: 201201398 post replyedit abuse? profile

	bluzytrix: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Richard, Welcome to the Kikta family :). I found this excerpt from the "Kikta Manifest" written by Mark Kikta about the first Kikta's to your region. It describes your lineage very well. My records show that the first Kikta to Illinois was Alexander Kikta (B 1881) who immigrated in 1899 from Poland. His mother and father are said to have been from Russia. Alexander married Florence Bonewics (B1891) in Poland and she followed him to Illinois in 1910. He also made a trip back home in 1912. Alexander & Flora had two children born in Illinois; Eugene (B1914) and Chester (B1915). By 1918 or 1919 they had relocated to Genesee County, Michigan and their only daughter Helen was born there in 1919. Alexander’s son Chester had two sons of which one was named Kenneth. If you have further questions or would like to exchange Family Tree data, I have the entire New York based Kikta lineage and can put you in contact with Mark Kikta. He has done much research relating us all.		11/01/2012, 09:07:30 #: 201201399 post replyedit abuse? profile

	ricktakikta: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty Akeem, Thanks for your informative reply. Yes, I would like to have access to more Kikta family tree info. Your offer to put me in contact with Mark Kikta and his Kikta Manifest is an excellent, helpful suggestion. Please support me in accomplishing that! Does Mark Kikta have a web site or e-mail address you can share with me? My e-mail address is ricktakikta -a-t- aol.com -d-o-t- Thank you so much Akeem Kikta. Best Regards, Rick Kikta		14/01/2012, 19:34:35 #: 201201607 post replyedit abuse? profile

	ricktakikta: Re: Kykta, Kichta, Kichty bluzytrix - Please contact me via e-mail so that I may continue to converse with you on our family heritage topic. Thank you, Richard (Rick) Kikta		05/02/2012, 03:15:48 #: 201202122 post replyedit abuse? profile

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