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Noémi |
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| | | | Zlatica : Re: Ament Family | Hi,
http://sloveniangenealogy.com/resources.htm
http://genealogy.ijp.si
www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/index.html
101 AMENTs passed thru Ellis Island to America and Anton Ament was from Sotin.
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm
www.genealogy.ro
www.matav.hu/tudakozo is listing some Aments in Hungary
Even Croatia's phone book is listing some.
www.htnet.hr/imenik/fset.html
Found 3 listings in Slovak Republic and few in Poland.
www.zoznamst.sk
The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing a Roman Catholic and Orthodox church records for Sotin. Those films would provide some additional clues. |
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| | | | Kurt: Aments from Hessen, who were the originators? | I am looking for the Orginal AMENT. Mine is so far, JOHANN AMENT was born Abt. 1731 in Reichelshausen, Bistum Wurzburg, in Hessen. and died March 20, 1798 in Filipowa, Batchka, Croatia, Yugoslavia. He married ANNA-MARGARETE-FRANZISKA-METZLER April 11, 1763 in Waibstadt, daughter of GEORG METZLER b. Jan 20, 1717/18 and (m. Oct. 6 1738 Waibstadt) EVA ERNST. She was born August 31, 1740, and died April 21, 1811 in Filipowa, Batchka,
Who and where in Bayern was the family from?
Ament Originator from WIM AMENT
The oldest name I could find was Peter Amende born in 1405 in Freiberg. In 1500 a Matthes Ament is born in and who has lived in Eisenach. About 1550 Mattessen Amende has lived in Monroth ?, Unterfranken in the duchy of Bavaria. In 1580 a Hans Amende is born and who lived about 1614 in Arnstadt and in 1565 a Wendel Am Endt was born in Battenburg near Bad Duerkhein in der Unterpfalz. In 1593 a Trintgen Am Endt us born in Rheindahlen near Monchen-Gladbach. And in 1619 a certain Hans Amend, called giant Hans was the father of Anna Ament who was born in Hildberghausen. Eisenach, Arnstadt and Hildberghausen are situated in todays Thuringen. |
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| | | | kurt: Amend Family book | Hello Joschi AMENT from Elec published a book on the AMEND / AMENT family in 2002. I have been trying to get a hold of him.
Apparently he has included the Aments from Elec Hungary and the "Fillipowa in the Batschka" in the book. Also he included some from Bayern and accross the border in Baden, Germany.
Do you know how I can get in touch with him? I want to purchase a couple books.
Thank You
Kurt |
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| | | | Tremmel: Áment család | | Áment nevűek jelentkezését várom,akik Csatkáról származtak el. |
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Áment család | Hello,
I do not speak Hungarian German or Croation.
So I do not now what you were tring to say?
My family Came from Reicholzheim Franconia (Baden) in Geremany. It was very close to Kuelsheim, Franconia (Baden).
My family moved to Fillipow Batschka then To Sotin Croatia.
Some of the Kulsheim AMENT family moved to Elec Hungary though I think Elec may have been in the Batschka for some time. Joschi AMENT wrote a book on the AMENT family from Elec but I have no clue what it says, I think it is in German and have not revied the Book, as I have not heard from Joschi.
He has a Elec website at:
//www.klemm.hu/alkotasok/welttreffen/start.html
My website is:
http://www.dvhh.org/sotting/registry/kurt/index.htm
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| | | | kurt: Ament from Tolna | Where were the Tolna Ament family from in Bayern (Bavaria) and are they related to the Elec Aments?
Were they from franconia?
Kurt
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| | | | johnscot | Hi we are researching a number of families in the Ajkarendek area. Ament being one
Descendants of Josef Ament
Generation No. 1
1. JOSEF1 AMENT was born 1835 in Ajkarendek Hungary. He married JULIANNA METZGER 11 Nov 1856 in Ajkarendeki, Veszprem, Hungary. She was born 20 Mar 1839 in Ajkarendek Hungary, and died 03 Aug 1891 in Ajkarendek Hungary.
Children of JOSEF AMENT and JULIANNA METZGER are:
2. i. MARTON2 AMENT, b. 19 Oct 1873, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 1914.
ii. JOSEF AMENT, b. Bet. 1870 - 1875, Ajkarendek Hungary; m. TEREZIA MARHOFFER; b. 1878.
iii. ERZSEBET AMENT, b. 03 Sep 1862, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 25 May 1892, Ajkarendek Hungary.
iv. JANOS AMENT, b. Dec 1867, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 22 Jan 1868, Ajkarendek Hungary.
v. ADAM AMENT, b. Dec 1868, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 23 Jan 1869, Ajkarendek Hungary.
Generation No. 2
2. MARTON2 AMENT (JOSEF1) was born 19 Oct 1873 in Ajkarendek Hungary, and died 1914. He married ELIZABETH MARHOFFER 1897 in Ajkarendeki, Veszprem, Hungary. She was born 10 Dec 1879 in Ajkarendek Hungary, and died 1946 in Ajkarendek Hungary.
Children of MARTON AMENT and ELIZABETH MARHOFFER are:
3. i. ELIZABETH3 AMENT, b. 04 May 1913, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 23 Aug 1998, Brewster MA.
ii. PAUL AMENT, b. 1898, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 1941, Ajkarendek Hungary.
iii. MERRIANNA AMENT, b. 05 Dec 1903, Ajkarendek Hungary; d. 18 Jan 1992.
Generation No. 3
3. ELIZABETH3 AMENT (MARTON2, JOSEF1)1 was born 04 May 1913 in Ajkarendek Hungary1, and died 23 Aug 1998 in Brewster MA1. She married JOSEPH STENGER1 24 Apr 1929 in Ajkarendek Hungary1, son of JANOS/JOHN STENGER and TEREZIA THERESA SZEKERES. He was born 06 Aug 1904 in Newark NJ1, and died 10 Sep 1976 in Colts Neck NJ1.
More About ELIZABETH AMENT:
Occupation: Waitress, businesswomen1
More About JOSEPH STENGER:
Occupation: Waiter, Farmer, Businessman1
Children of ELIZABETH AMENT and JOSEPH STENGER are:
4. i. JOSEPH PAUL4 STENGER, b. 10 Apr 1930, Perth Amboy NJ; d. 01 Feb 1997, Port St. Lucie FL.
5. ii. VIOLA STENGER, b. 20 Feb 1934, Bronx NY.
More info is in the attached jpg.
Hope this helps or ties in with any others, would appreciate your thoughts.
John |
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| | | | kurt: Ament from Ajkarendek | I am thinking they might be from the Elec Hungary AMENT family. Did you check the Elec book?
The families were Donauschwaben first going to the Batschka and Banat then up into Hungary proper.
If they are related to the ELEC AMENT family they mine in Kuelsheim / Reicholzheim, Baden family. I don't have the book so I can't check. I am sure I have seen this family come through Ellis Island.
Best regards
Kurt
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| | | | johnscot: Re: Ament from Ajkarendek | What is the elec book sorry am new to this side of it.
John |
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Ament from Ajkarendek | Hello John,
No reason to be sorry I should have explained it better.
Many of the Ament family went west during the great migration period. Say the late 1700's Some went to the Batschka and Banat and some to Hungary proper. Some of the Ament family went to Elec Hungary after going to the Banat. This is a large family in Hungary Like the one in the Batschka.
They Came from Kuelheim. Which is just below Reicholzheim in Baden. Some went direct from the Spessart Forest area of Bayern, which is just to the North of Reichlozheim, Baden.
It my opinion they are all related but hard to prove. Though it is obvious that most Ament's (Amend's)came from this area of Frankonia. Probably originating in or near Fulda.
I have looked at your line before not sure there was a connection but it may be in the book that Joshi wrote on the Amend/Ament family. His main subject if I understand it right was the Ament family from Elec as that is his line.
Perhaps you can post to the "Frankonia list" on rootsweb for a look up. They might be in there.
Best regards
Kurt
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Ament from Ajkarendek | Hello John,
If they are not in there I think I might have a look up in Stader's works that may help you.
Best regards
Kurt
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| | | | Tremmel: Csatka | | Keresem Áment János (1877 Csatka) és Kuglics Anna (1888 Csatka) leszármazottait! |
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Csatka | Hello Tremmel,
I understand you are looking for János (John) ÁMENT / AMEND (b. 1877 of Csatka) and Anna KUGLICS (b. 1888 of Csatka) Hungary.
Possibly? Ernest Chrisbacher has them in his book.........
The German Immigrants from Veszprém County, Hungary
Published by Gateway Press Inc., August, 2005, 347 pages, hard cover
Contents:
* ETHNIC GERMANS OF VESZPRÉM COUNTY
* GERMAN COLONIZATION IN HUNGARY - ORIGINS
* TRANSITIONS, STRUGGLES & HARDSHIPS
* GERMAN VILLAGES OF VESZPRÉM COUNTY - MAPS
* LIFE IN THE GERMAN VILLAGES
* EXODUS - A BETTER LIFE IN AMERICA
* THE TRAUMA OF WORLD WAR TWO - ETHNIC CLEANSING
* IMMIGRANTS LIST & PERSONAL ACCOUNTS
http://www.chrisbacher.net/~ernest/book.html
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Also Ellis Island records list:
1 Maria A...MENT of Csatka, Hung. Age 17 Born 1896 Arrived 1913
2 Anna AMENT Csatka, Hungary Age 25 Born 1882 Arrived 1907
3 Janos AMENT Csatka Age 28 Born 1877 Arrived 1905
4 Peter AMENT Csatka, Hungary Age 3 Born 1904 Arrived 1907
Also listed are
Jozsefne KUGLICS, Katalin KUGLICS, Rozalia KUGLICS and Terez KUGLICS all of Csatka.
The families appear to have gone to Bridgeport Connecticut, / Passaic, New Jersey. or the state of Pennsylvania
Ellis Island in one step.
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/eidb/ellisgold.html
Best regards
Kurt |
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Csatka | Online translator
http://www.tranexp.com:2000/InterTran?from=hun&to=eng&text=&type=text&Submit=Translate
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| | | | Kurt: Re: Csatka | Hello again,
PETER AMENT JR. was born 09 Feb 1905 and died Jun 1982 and lived in Rochelle Park, Bergen, New Jersey, USA. It looks like maybe he married Mary b. abt 1908. She died either 1983 or 1998(?)........
In the 1930 census, his father Peter AMENT b. about abt 1875 as it would appear m. Anna H and also lived in Bergen, NJ.
I don't know what happened to Janos AMENT b. abt 1877, or if he had a middle name. He did go to Throop, Lackawanna County, Pennsylvania and it looks like he applied for naturalization in 1938. He likely changed the spelling of his first name to "John". I don't know if he stayed in Pennsylvania or moved to NJ to be near his relatives, or went back to Hungary?
I hope this helps.
Best regards
Kurt
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| | | | Tremmel: Re: Csatka | Hello Kurt,
Thank you for this informations.
Ament Janos's wife (Kuglics Anna) died in Csatka, 24 November 1965.
I don't know what happened to Janos (John)
Ament Peter was born in Csatka,1874. Parents: Ament Jozsef-Szokoli Cecilia.
His sister, Ament Cecilia (1856-1917) Cecilia's husband name Horvath Mihaly (1853-1933) They died in Csatka.
Best regards
Imre |
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| | | | kurt: Re: Csatka | Hello Imre,
Well it sounds like it is the same family. Many people came to the states for work and sent there money back home. Some of them returned to the country where they were born.
Its hard to say what happened to Janos AMENT. He could have died and his wife "Anna" returned to the old country or possibly they divorced. Possibly his citizenship was denied for what ever reason. I have no idea but maybe you should find his naturalization papers.
As you must have seen by now, Mihaly (Michael) HORVATH also came to the USA and returned to his homeland at some point, as you stated he died in Csatka.
I am also descendant of the HORVATH family, but they were living in Croatia on the Danube in the early 1800's. HORVATH is a very common name.........meaning...... "Croatian".
Best regards
Kurt |
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