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LOLA: ANGYAL
Im searching for ANGYAL relatives from Budapest area who were living in Village of Elszoszeged approximate year of 1920.

My grandmother was Julia Elizabeth Angyal.
Date of birth: October 10, 1903
Came to USA approximately 1920-1923 to her sponser, Mary Barron in the state of Pennsylvania

Julia's parents were John (died approx 1920) &
Elizabeth Nasdrasvasky) Angyal
Her Siblings:
Rosella
Elizabeth
John

ALL siblings remained in Hungary so I have direct relatives still in Hungary.

Please email me! THANK YOU!
LOLAODOIHC -a-t- AOL -d-o-t- COM
01/31/2005
31/01/2005, 13:35:54
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LOLA: JOSEF KONDAS
Im searching for relatives of Josef Kondas from
Fornagyfalu, Czechoslovakia in approximate year of 1920

Josef date of birth: August 13, 1894
Parents: Francis & Mary (Pastor / Pastora) Kondas
Departed for USA: January 8, 1921
Siblings:
Anna - went to Canada to live
Mike - went to Canada to live
John - went to Canada to live
Julius
Mary

Please email me at LOLAODOIHC -a-t- AOL -d-o-t- COM
Thank You!
31/01/2005, 13:42:48
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kezdi: Re: JOSEF KONDAS
Lola, borders, countries, place names changed, but Fornagyfalu is/was not listed anywhere in Hungary, Czechoslovakia or Slovakia.
It could be a misspell Forna-Torna, Fornagy-Tornagy, or could be Nagy=Big, falu=village in Hungarian.
Before the early 1900s there was 4 Nagy/falu=Big/village in Hungary, which today falls into Slovakia (Czechoslovakia from 1920), either of them listed as Fornagyfalu on any of the Hungarian Censuses from 1869-1900. Take a look of their official names per RADIX in 1913 and the Counties they belonged, maybe you'll see something familiar:
Place County(1913) District(1913) Current country
Nagyfalu Árva Alsókubini Slovakia
Ipolynagyfalu Hont Ipolynyéki Slovakia
Losoncznagyfalu Nógrád Losonczi Slovakia
Nyitranagyfalu Nyitra Nyitrai Slovakia
31/01/2005, 20:49:36
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kezdi: Re: ANGYAL
Lola, you have no luck with the place names, Elszoszeged also is an unknown name, nothing comes close except Szeged, the bigger city in So. Hungary, quite distance from Budapest, Elszo has no meaning, can you check the spelling?
31/01/2005, 21:00:21
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LOLA: Re: JOSEF KONDAS
I have a correction to the village of Josef.
It is TORNA UJFALU.
The rest of my information is the same.
Thank you!
08/02/2005, 20:27:22
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 Angyal - Csavoly forum: Suci: csak úgy
Angyal András
Üdv Mindekinek!

Keresem a Gömör-Kishont Vármegyéből származó Angyal család leszármazottait, különös tekintettel Szőlősardóra és Szelcére.

Köszi.
28/02/2007, 17:13:31
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Neal: ANGYAL
Samuel Angyal

On August 21, 1898, Samuel ANGYAL traveled from Buda Pest, Hungary to Hamburg, Germany, where he boarded the Phoenicia bound for New York City. He was supposed to have worked as a Postmaster in Buda Pest.
Four years later, Samuel, a never-married thirty-three-year-old, lived at #613 E. 11th St. A few doors away, at #620, waited his future bride. Perhaps they met while trying to escape the unbearable heat of a summer’s evening or at the Congregation Avath Israel on 52nd St. On August 17, 1902, Samuel married the German-speaking, twenty-three-year-old Galacian, Antonia Blucher. On June 29, 1903, they were blessed with a daughter, Rhea.
In April of 1906, Samuel, living at #33 Broadway, was listed as “destination” on his nephews’, Barna and Adorjan Newman, immigration record. While Samuel was employed as a secretary for the Hungarian Consulate he wrote a letter of recommendation for his nephew, Barna Newman, son of David Newman and Amalia Angyal.

By 1920 the couple was divorced and Samuel, age 53, an alien, was lodging at #60 West 124th Street with his 16-year-old daughter Rhea, who was attending school. Rhea is said to have died by age nineteen.
Samuel is said to have stopped by occasionally and taken his niece, Margit, to lunch. Margit Newman was the daughter of David Newman and Amalia Angyal and the widow of Harry Lazar. After Harry died Margit had to go to work. Could she have worked for her uncle?

Josef Angyal (NEED INFORMATION ON JOSEF AND HIS FAMILY IN HUNGARY)

Joseph, a brother of Samuel, was supposed to be a captain in the Hungary State Police. He wrote a book of poetry called “200 Gold Pieces”. Joseph did not emigrated and died during WWII.

Amalia Angyal

Amalia, sister of Samuel and Josef, was born about 1863. About 1880, she married David Neumann. They resided in Rimabayna, a mining town on the Rima river north-northeast of Losoncz, Gomor, Hungary - now in Slovakia. While still a young family, they moved to Losoncz. Ten children, all born in Hungary, are known.

The oldest, Paul, died of smallpox at about six months of age. (It is possible that there were eleven children and the first two died of small pox.) The next oldest son, Barna, served in the Hungarian Hussars and then, in 1906, brought his sixteen-year-old brother with him to New York. Later the two oldest sisters, Erszebet (Elizabeth) and Anna joined their brothers and on December 9, 1911, David, Amalia, and their five youngest children: Laszlo, Lenke, Balazs, Margit and Rosa arrived in New York.
It is said that Amalia’s parents were upset at her marrying beneath her station – David being a mere butcher. In Amalia’s youth she undoubtedly had training as a proper lady and enjoyed servants. She was an outstanding cook, trained her own cook and her daughters, managed the large household, observed proper etiquette, always wore gloves when going out, and did beautiful silk embroidery work.
The family was close and the men gathered together each Sunday to play cards, smoke and talk. Amalia’s youngest daughter, Rose, would off-times join in the card games. After Amalia’s son Barna married his second wife, Ilona Rosenfeld. Ilona and Amalia argued and that ended Barna’s visits to the weekly ritual and eventually separated his family from the extended family.
Amalia died of ‘coronary closure’, May 26, 1934, age 71, at her home: #8001 10th Ave., Brooklyn, New York. She was buried in Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn.
Her Yarzeit Book, kept by Barna, shows her as Malka.
This photo, taken about 1875 in RimaSzombat, is of Amalia as a young teen. The original in in possession of Jane Auerbach. Amalia had light blue eyes.
This photo of Amalia sewing was contributed by Paul Newman.


Parents of Samuel, Amalia and Joseph Angyal (NEED PARENTS AND OTHER SIBLINGS)

In 1902, on Samuel Angyal’s marriage certificate, he lists his father as David Angyal and his mother as Rosa Weiss.
When he was in his eighties, but of sound mind and memory, Laszlo Newman (Laci) said that his grandfather was David Angyal and his grandmother was a Horowitz.
In 1934, on Amalia’s death certificate her father is shown as Meyer Engel and her mother as Sarah Koch.

Since Samuel gave the information himself and probably Amalia’s husband gave the information on her death certificate, the preponderance of evidence is with their parents being David and Rosa. It is possible that Amalia and Samuel had the same father but different mothers.
Meyer is the name of the father of David Hochmann. It is possible that David Hochmann’s parents were Meyer and Sarah.
There are three Davids of a close generation: David Neumann (b.1858), David Hochmann (b.1851), and now David Angyal (b. circa 1840).

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02/05/2011, 19:50:16
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Neal: ANGYAL
Samuel Angyal

On August 21, 1898, Samuel ANGYAL traveled from Buda Pest, Hungary to Hamburg, Germany, where he boarded the Phoenicia bound for New York City. He was supposed to have worked as a Postmaster in Buda Pest.
Four years later, Samuel, a never-married thirty-three-year-old, lived at #613 E. 11th St. A few doors away, at #620, waited his future bride. Perhaps they met while trying to escape the unbearable heat of a summer’s evening or at the Congregation Avath Israel on 52nd St. On August 17, 1902, Samuel married the German-speaking, twenty-three-year-old Galacian, Antonia Blucher. On June 29, 1903, they were blessed with a daughter, Rhea.
In April of 1906, Samuel, living at #33 Broadway, was listed as “destination” on his nephews’, Barna and Adorjan Newman, immigration record. While Samuel was employed as a secretary for the Hungarian Consulate he wrote a letter of recommendation for his nephew, Barna Newman, son of David Newman and Amalia Angyal.

By 1920 the couple was divorced and Samuel, age 53, an alien, was lodging at #60 West 124th Street with his 16-year-old daughter Rhea, who was attending school. Rhea is said to have died by age nineteen.
Samuel is said to have stopped by occasionally and taken his niece, Margit, to lunch. Margit Newman was the daughter of David Newman and Amalia Angyal and the widow of Harry Lazar. After Harry died Margit had to go to work. Could she have worked for her uncle?

Josef Angyal (NEED INFORMATION ON JOSEF AND HIS FAMILY IN HUNGARY)

Joseph, a brother of Samuel, was supposed to be a captain in the Hungary State Police. He wrote a book of poetry called “200 Gold Pieces”. Joseph did not emigrated and died during WWII.

Amalia Angyal

Amalia, sister of Samuel and Josef, was born about 1863. About 1880, she married David Neumann. They resided in Rimabayna, a mining town on the Rima river north-northeast of Losoncz, Gomor, Hungary - now in Slovakia. While still a young family, they moved to Losoncz. Ten children, all born in Hungary, are known.

The oldest, Paul, died of smallpox at about six months of age. (It is possible that there were eleven children and the first two died of small pox.) The next oldest son, Barna, served in the Hungarian Hussars and then, in 1906, brought his sixteen-year-old brother with him to New York. Later the two oldest sisters, Erszebet (Elizabeth) and Anna joined their brothers and on December 9, 1911, David, Amalia, and their five youngest children: Laszlo, Lenke, Balazs, Margit and Rosa arrived in New York.
It is said that Amalia’s parents were upset at her marrying beneath her station – David being a mere butcher. In Amalia’s youth she undoubtedly had training as a proper lady and enjoyed servants. She was an outstanding cook, trained her own cook and her daughters, managed the large household, observed proper etiquette, always wore gloves when going out, and did beautiful silk embroidery work.
The family was close and the men gathered together each Sunday to play cards, smoke and talk. Amalia’s youngest daughter, Rose, would off-times join in the card games. After Amalia’s son Barna married his second wife, Ilona Rosenfeld. Ilona and Amalia argued and that ended Barna’s visits to the weekly ritual and eventually separated his family from the extended family.
Amalia died of ‘coronary closure’, May 26, 1934, age 71, at her home: #8001 10th Ave., Brooklyn, New York. She was buried in Washington Cemetery in Brooklyn.
Her Yarzeit Book, kept by Barna, shows her as Malka.
This photo, taken about 1875 in RimaSzombat, is of Amalia as a young teen. The original in in possession of Jane Auerbach. Amalia had light blue eyes.
This photo of Amalia sewing was contributed by Paul Newman.


Parents of Samuel, Amalia and Joseph Angyal (NEED PARENTS AND OTHER SIBLINGS)

In 1902, on Samuel Angyal’s marriage certificate, he lists his father as David Angyal and his mother as Rosa Weiss.
When he was in his eighties, but of sound mind and memory, Laszlo Newman (Laci) said that his grandfather was David Angyal and his grandmother was a Horowitz.
In 1934, on Amalia’s death certificate her father is shown as Meyer Engel and her mother as Sarah Koch.

Since Samuel gave the information himself and probably Amalia’s husband gave the information on her death certificate, the preponderance of evidence is with their parents being David and Rosa. It is possible that Amalia and Samuel had the same father but different mothers.
Meyer is the name of the father of David Hochmann. It is possible that David Hochmann’s parents were Meyer and Sarah.
There are three Davids of a close generation: David Neumann (b.1858), David Hochmann (b.1851), and now David Angyal (b. circa 1840).
02/05/2011, 19:51:03
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