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buttroast98: Andrew Biros
I am looking for Andrew Biros born 1854. Moved to Streator, Illinois, USA. Wife was Mary Adamchak born a few years later. I have no town names associated with either individual, so it has been hard to research them. Their death certificates and US Census records stated their birth places as Czechoslovakia and Austria-Hungary. They were Slovakian and spoke Slovakian before they learned English. Any help would be appreciated.
26/06/2007, 05:47:13
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Zlatica : Re: Andrew Biros
buttroast98

Have you posted on www.ancestry.com/community or http://genforum.com
An ALL site for research in Slovak Republic:
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
Up to 1918 the records would say Hungary. After the fall of A-H http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm several new countries were formed and one was Czechoslovakia www.cgsi.org (minus Ruthenia) which in 1993 separated into Czech Republic and Slovak Republic.
ADAMCHAK would be ADAMC^AK in Slovak.
SK's phone book is listing ADAMC^AK and BIROS^ but no way to pinpoint the location. www.zoznamst.sk
What religion were your ancestors? By the surnames I want to say Byzantine Catholic. Maybe they were Ruthenian/Rusin? www.c-rs.org
www.tccweb.org
Take a look in Ellis Island website www.ellisislandrecords.org at ADAMCSAKs, ADAMCZAKs, ADAMCAKs, BIROS, and BIROSZs manifest. Family went to family in those old days. Possible other family member came thru EI later.
www.surnamenavigator.org
Take a look in www.helenezx.homestead.com Slovak Pride. ADAMCAK is listed as being from Oravsky Biely Potok. Surname BIROS is from a variety of location.
26/06/2007, 06:19:43
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Buttroast98: Re: Andrew Biros
Thank you for the reply. My ancestors were members of the first Slovak Catholic Church in America (Streator, Illinois, USA). Today it is considered "Roman" Catholic. My ancestors arrived to USA before Ellis Island records. I do not have any town names at all, so I don't know where to start. I have exhausted the records in America and do not have any information on brothers/sisters or parents of Andrew Biros. I have been unable to find his passenger list or even a port of entry. I was hoping to find some online databases but no luck.
26/06/2007, 06:43:01
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Zlatica : Re: Adamcsak
buttroast98

Did Andrew (Andras in Hungarian, Andrej in Slovak) and Mary (Maria) come to US already married or did they marry in US?
ADAMCSAK Lajos arr. in 1909 going to Chicago, Ill left a father ADAMCSAK Janos in Feherpatak, Arva megye, Hungary now Oravsky Biely Potok, Orava region, Slovak Republic
ADAMC^AKOVA (ova a female) does list in Oravsky Biely Potok's phone book but that is no proof that this might be your female ancestor's birthplace.
BIROS list in good numbers in area code 054 - Eastern region of SK. Both surnames list in Vaniskovce's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk Still no proof that this could possibly be ancestral village for both just because both surnames show up in one village.
You will need to locate a precise place of birth among the US documents. One of them a naturalized citizen? How about the church they attended and had their children baptized?
26/06/2007, 06:53:13
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Zlatica : Re: Andrew Biros
Your welcome.

Did you look in www.castlegarden.org They could have come thru Baltimore, Boston or Philadelphia.
I left you few places to look for the surnames so hope you will check out the sites.
The LDS-Mormons site is listing Roman Catholic church records of Vaniskovce which I mentioned before. You might order them and see if your ancestors surname show up.
Was there ever mentioned by your ancestors or descendant a name of a region like Zemplin, Saris, Orava, anything?
26/06/2007, 06:58:20
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Zlatica : Re: Biros
Buttroast98

www.surnamenavigator.org
Is this your relation?
Adam BIROS and Anna PETISKA being parents of Elisabetha BIROS whose spouse was Stephen ELIAS married in 1886 in Streator, La Salle, Ill.? Born in Proch, Saros Co... Hungary.
A map of Saros megye:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Saros The village might be Procs which is Proc, Saris, SK.
Went back to Surnamenavigator looking for ADAMCSAK. Found an Anna ADAMCSAK who was from Fulyan, Saros megye now Fulianka, Saris region, Slovak Republic.
26/06/2007, 07:17:24
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Buttroast98: Re: Biros
Hello again, thanks so much for your replies. I have all of the U.S. documents for Adam Biros Family, as well as for a Michael Biros family, both in the Streator area. I had a hunch that maybe Michael was a brother to my Andrew, simply because they were only 2 years apart in age, but I have never been able to link either family to mine. I have the original copy of Adam's marriage license showing Saros, so maybe it would be worth it for me to check in that village. I also checked all of the websites you gave me, except I did not check the passenger list site you mentioned regarding the Baltimore and other ports of entry. Mary Adamchak's father was John Adamchak. I believe her mother was Mary as well, because in one of the US Censuses, Andrew & Mary had a Mary Adamshock living with them listed as a "boarder", but she was old enough to be Mary's mother.

Well, my next question is, what is my next step to finding out more about Adam Biros in Saros to see if there is a possible link to my Andrew?

Thank YOu,
Jeremy
26/06/2007, 15:23:11
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Zlatica : Re: Biros
Jeremy

Your next step is order the church records of the two villages that are mentioned and proceed from there. Family went to family in those old days. Our people did not know anything about America only that there are jobs. Word of mouth traveled fast. They went where the people spoke same language.
A map of Saros (Saris in Slovak)
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Saros.
Village Fulyan (Fulianka ) and Procs/Porocs (Proc') are not far from each other. Locate EPERJES (Presov now)follow the river/road North to find Fulyan and North-East a Porocs.
you might come out and post on http://genforum.com and www.ancestry.com/community http://slovakia.eunet.sk
www.slovensko.com
www.obec.proc.szm.sk
www.spectacularslovakia.sk
Mary came as Maria, John as Janos and Michael as Mihaly.
http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.au/names
26/06/2007, 18:48:29
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Buttroast98: Re: Biros
Thanks again. Who do I contact to order the parish records? Do I go through the FHL or do I have to get them from Europe? What type of church would I be looking for (in Slovak).

Thanks Jeremy.
26/06/2007, 19:43:04
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Zlatica : Re: Biros
Your welcome.

A side note: ELIAS^OVA (ova a female) does list in Proc's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk At this time it is neither here nor there, just a tidbit.
An ALL site for research: www.iabsi.com/gen/public
for church records:
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp
click on Place Search type a name of a village and you should get the church records number that you need to order. You might have to search a little for the records as some villages did not and do not have a church so the records are in a neighoring village that has a church. Roman Catholic church records would be in Latin and Hungarian. www.bmi.net/jjaso (sample of church wording)
26/06/2007, 19:52:40
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Zlatica : Re: church records
Jeremy

Fulianka's church records are under Fulyan. Greek Catholic. You are looking for Roman Catholic.
Check out Bill Tarkulich's site before you get started.
26/06/2007, 19:55:42
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Russ: Re: Andrew Biros
Have you collected the information you require? My father had a cousin living in Stratford CT, who's since died, by the name of Mary Adamchak. She was married to John Adamchak. I doubt she's the person you seek, but obviously there must be a family connection here somewhere.

My family, on my Dad's side, is from the Brataslavia area in what is now Slovakia.
04/06/2008, 00:35:18
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Zlatica : Re: Andrew Biros
buttroast98

Since you say they spoke Slovak did you post on Slovak Republic's http://genforum.com or Slovakia's www.ancestry.com/community
An ALL site for research in SK:
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
www.tccweb.org
www.iarelative.com
www.cisarik.com
Surname BIROS' and ADAMC'AK does list in SK's phone book.
www.zoznamst.sk
You need to locate a precise place of birth among the US documents in order to proceed with the research.
www.cgsi.org
www.surnamenavigator.org
04/06/2008, 02:09:05
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