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Geri Roth: Fisch

I am researching the Fisch Family in Hungary. I have information from he 1700's and 1800's but little information on the 1900's. I have many documents and letters from the 1800's. I am interested in hearing from anyone who is researching the Fisch family.My great great grandfather came to America in the 1800's. He left behind in Hungary a huge family.
I am also researching the Roth Family.

21/03/2004, 17:48:32
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Zlatica : Re: Fisch

Geri

Some websites to help in your research :

www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
http://vivisimo.com
www.imrehun.com

The LDS-Mormons have filmed the church records so check out their website for the films which you can order and gather ancestral information.
www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording.

Hungary's phone site is at :
www.matav.hu/tudakozo

21/03/2004, 20:05:29
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katóca: Re: Fisch

Kedves Geri!
Sajnos, nem tudok angolul!
Fisch Ferenc született 1891. október 7. Kunmadaras!
Üdvözlettel: Kati

15/08/2004, 14:27:30
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Geri: Re: Fisch

Hello Kati, Unfortuneately I do not speak Hungarian. I am very happy you e-mailed me. I would like to share information with you. One of my Great Great Grandfathers was Aaron Shaje Fish form Nagykallo. I have so much more information. Where was your family from.

You can e-mail me in Hungarian and I will have it translated. Please keep in touch I am so very interesed in learn more about your Fisch Family.
Best Regards, Geri

15/08/2004, 21:04:57
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Katóca: Re: Fisch

Kedves Geri!
Sajnos, nem tudok angolul! Gondolom, Te pedig a magyar szót nem érted! Így
aztán nehéz lesz a levélváltás!
Sajnos, nem hiszem, hogy ugyanarról a Fisch családról beszélünk, én csak
Kunmadarasról tudok, esetleg még Miskolcon is éltek a nagyszülők! Tudok még Fis Áronról, aki s-sel írta a nevét, Ő 1846-ban született.
Kérlek, írd meg email-címedet, körülbelül kitalálom, miről írsz. Azt is
megértettem, hogy le tudod fordítattni, vagy fordítani(?), amit én írok.
Ne kelljen a RadixForumon keresztül írnunk!
Szeretettel: Kati

19/08/2004, 22:36:49
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Translator: Fisch

Geri!

Kati's family was from Kunmadaras and Miskolc.

19/08/2004, 23:20:12
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Zsolt: Fisch Herman

Dear Everybody
My name is Zsolt Pocsi, live in Hungary, in Nyíradony.
I search familytree, and search place history.
Yesterday was two people in Nyíradony, they are live in Israel, they are search Herman Fisch, who was rabbi in Nyíradony before 1944.
We search the photo is Herman Fisch.

Can you help me?
Sorry, I small speaking english.

Kedves Mindenki
Én Pócsi Zsolt vagyok Nyíradonyból, családfakutatással, és helytörténettel foglalkozom, tegnap volt Nyíradonyban két rabbi Izraelből, akik Fisch Herman, 1944 előtt Nyíradonyban élt rabbiról keresnek fényképet.
Tud valaki segíteni?

Üdvözlettel, Zsolt.

13/03/2007, 11:23:39
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Zsolt: Fisch Herman

13/03/2007, 11:24:05
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

I am searching for more information about my grandfather's family. My grandfather's name was Huszár Vilmos, his father's name was Huszár Bernat, and his older brother's name was Aladar. Bernat had a sister Fanni and also a brother.

Vilmos Huszár was born in 1872 or 1873 in Munkács. The family surname might have been Fisch or Fisher before it became Huszár.

I have information suggesting that Vilmos's family changed their surname from Fisch to Huszár. My grandfather Vilmos says in his autobiography (1931) that he discovered late in his life that his family came from Nagykalloi.

Any information you could provide would be gratefully received.

Thank you.

02/10/2007, 19:25:47
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Zlatica : Re: Fisch

dehuszar

Munkacs is Mukachevo, Ukraine
Nagykallo, Szabolcs megye, Hungary
You might want to look into the church records of Nagykallo. They show up in LDS-Mormons site.
Have you posted on Ancestry and Genforum?
www.surnamenavigator.org
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.felix-game.ca

02/10/2007, 19:45:54
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

Thank you for your suggestions. I now have confirmation that Aladar Fisch, the brother of Vilmos, changed the family name from Fisch to Huszar in about 1896.

Vilmos and Aladar's aunt, Fanni may have used the last name Fisher. Fanni Fisher.

Any help is welcome.

06/10/2007, 12:24:04
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

I forgot to mention that the Fisch (Fisher?)- Huszar family was Jewish.

06/10/2007, 12:25:38
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Zlatica : Re: Fisch

dehuszar

You might want post on, if you have not already on www.ancestry.com/community
http://genforum.com
www.jewishgen.org

06/10/2007, 13:31:35
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

My grandfather and his older brother changed their name from Fisch to Huszar at the end of the 19th century. Supposedly the Fisch family came from Nagykalloi, at least that's what my grandfather put down when he was knighted in 1916.

My grandfather was born in Munkancs and the family moved a few years later to Ungvar. Soon he settled in Budapest. His brother settled in Szatmar. Their father's name was Bertalan, their mother's Sarolta Konigstein.

Any connections with your relatives?

30/10/2007, 21:45:29
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

Hello,
If your family name was Fisch and they were from Nagy Kallo I am related to you cousin.
I would be very interested in speaking or writting to me.
Please e-mail me and we can share a lot of the information we both have.
I have many orginal documents and pictures.

08/01/2008, 23:18:52
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

Dear Geri,
What is the most recent information you have on the Fisch family? My information begins with my father's grandparents. You may have trouble linking to family during the period of time when "magyarisation" was required. For Jews, changing names was also a key to assimiliation.

Do you have any information on a Bernat or Fanny Fisch (or Fisher)? Was your family Jewish?

Look forward to hearing from you.

08/01/2008, 23:34:51
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Robert Fisch: Re: Fisch

I am interested in Hungarian Jewish geneology. My grandfather's name was Adolf Fisch, and he was born in Nagy Kallo in 1855. He came to America in 1880 and settled in Louisville, KY. My father was born there, but the entire family moved to Chicago where I was born in 1928. I will be glad to share any information I have concerning my Hungarian ancestry and my family's history in America.

09/01/2008, 20:02:50
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kezdi: Re: Fisch

Dear dehuszar,
I'm sure you'll agree that your statement "required" is mistatement. I have close family members who changed names and also who didn't, it was personal decision, NOT required.
As you said "key to assimiliation" could be exceptable, adding that for SOME and NOT unlike in other countries, including the good old USA.
Anyway, permit was needed for name changes from the Interior Department (BM) and the list is available for 1800-1893 at RADIX, one subject name change been recorded:

Surname changes in Hungary 1800-1893
Query results huszar

New surname Old surname Given name(s) Place Year

Huszár Fisch Aladár and son Vilmos Szatmár 1892

Hope this helps,
Regards/Udvozlettel
Joseph Laszlo

09/01/2008, 21:24:02
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

Gee cousin..it is great we met on Radix.
Thank you for this Forum.
I do not want to pour too much information on this forum, but this is a very interesting and wonderful family. It was a huge family and was spread out in many towns and eventually there was family in Budapest also.
The Fisch family was central to Nagy Kallo.
I am not sure just where you fit in because there were hundreds of cousins, aunts Uncles and the likes.
I will tell you about my line and I am willing to help you find your fit.
I have done this for others and the family tree grows and we all benefit.
I will start with Yitchak who was the father of Yaakov Fisch (Jacob)
I do not know when he was born or died, but his name is on Yaakov Fisch's tombstone as the father..so it is so.
Yaakov Fisch was born before 1745. They say he lived to be 110 and he died in 1845.
Yaakov had a large estate and and was well respected in the community,
In the 1751 Eizik Taub was born. He went away to study for many years. On his way home Eizik met Yaankev Fisch and became the tutor of his children. Some years later he became the Rabbi of Nagy Kallo.
This connection is important.
Rabbi Eizik became a very famous and unusual Rabbi.
Because of the connection to the Fisch family, members of the Fisch family are included in all the books written about the famous Rabbi.
He was the chief Rabbi in Szabolcs County and was known as the Kelever Rebbe!
One of Yaankov Fisch's sons was Aaron Shaje Fisch. His tutor was Eizik Taub and later when he became the chief Rabbi, Aaron Shaje Fisch became his Gabbi (right had man) and was with him in all of the miraculous events in his life.
I would recommend getting the book "Rabbi Eizik" on inter-library loan. Robert this should be in your library. It is by Andrew Handler.
It was so lucky to read many books that talk about my great great great great grandfather Yaankov Fisch and my great great great grandfather Aaron Shaje Fisch. I think it was also lucky that Eizik Taub was taken in by the Fisch Family. It is all history now.
Aaron Shaje Fisch was an inn keeper. He had amny children and I am just learning who they all were. With the internet more names will be added to the list.
Two of his sons ended up in the United States and that is why there is a very large family here. It was kind of unusual that they came because in that large family very few left Hungary.
The Fisch family loved Hungary and they loved the land.
These two brothers came to the United states for different reasons.
Moritz Fisch, son of Aaron Shaje came to America because his wife had breathing problems and the doctors said that she should be in a warm sunny climate. They traveled to California first class and lived a very comfortable life and had a successful business.
Abraham Fisch also came to America for very different reasons.
I do not know how it was decided that he should come...but his wife died and he had seven children. The youngest was three months.
All seven children including the three month old were on the ship with him arriving in America. Can you imagine.
He went to Chicago and I am sure there were Fisch relatives there.
He is buried in the "Old Hungarian" section of a large cemetery and there are other Fisch reletives buried in the same plot.
Someday I will order death certificates on all of them and figure out who they were...but they were Fisch releatives.
Robert, I wanted to give you some background on my line.
I am not sure where you fit in, but you are certainly a important part of this family and it is so wonderful that your father told you about your Fisch heritage and Nagy Kallo.
Regards,
Geri Roth

12/01/2008, 04:46:32
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch Family Research

Dear Robert Fsch,
I have another book here in Hungarian (I have not had it translated yet)...very expensive.
It is called A" Kalloi Cakdik" by Dr Szilagyi-Wint Laszlo.
I doubt if you could find this book, but I have a copy and maybe one day I can make a copy for you.
It i the whole story about Nagy Kallo.
There is a list included in the book of all members of the Jewish community who died between 1815 and 1940.
It does not tell what year they died though, but it is wonderful that this list survived the war.
There are two Bernat Fisch listed. They did not list the women but a few were mentioned who must have been impoetant.
No Fanny.
I have also done research over he years and have compiled many lists.
I am looking over these lists to find your names.
This will take time to find out what line you came from.
I will tell you about any Fani I have.
Fani Fisch (widow) Napkor...father Herman Fisch Ungvar/mother Fani
Fisch Nagy Kallo married Citron Ighaz (39) divorced.

Groom Fekete Jakob Father Moses Fisch, Mother Kranz Sara
Bride Ella Fisch (18 yrs) Brides father Herman Fisch, Brides mother Fani Fisch

baby died Pepi (poppi) 5/17/90? mother Fani Fisch

Fani Fisch died at age 68 Napkor 8/12/55 Cholera

Fani Fisch Hermane(means wife of Herman) 12/2/77 Napkor
merchant woman

Birth
Ester Fisch 3/4/91 Father Bernat Fisch Mother Ida Schwartz
died 6/10/91

Birth Samuel Fisch 8/20/92 Father Bernat Fisch mother Ida Schwartz

Birth
Abraham Fisch 10/8/85 Father Baruch mother Ida Schwartz
THIS WAS EITHER A MISTAKE OR BERNAT WAS ALSO CALL BARUCH

BIRTH
Fani 6/13/88 father Bernat Fisch mother Ida Schwartz

Birth
Fani Fisch 2/11/62 father Edward Fisch mother pepi Kuepfer

Birth
Hani Fisch 9/23/80? father Bernat Fisch mother Ida Schwartz

Birth
Baby Fisch 8/23/77 father Salomon Fisch mother Fani Fisch

Birth
Fani Fisch 12/15/56 father Toni Fisch mother Salli Berkowitz

Birth
Adolf Halasz (Fisch) 10/2/53 Father Hers Beer Fisch mother Salliz

Birth
Fani Fisch 6/13/86 Napkor/Kallo father Bernat Fisch
mother Ida Schwartz

Bith
Ester Fisch 3/4/91 father Bernat Fisch (merchant) mother Ida Schwartz

Birth
Samuel Schwartz 8/20/93 father Bernath Fisch mother da Schwartz

Birth
Schye Fisch 2/9/98 father Bernat Fisch ,other Ida Schwarts
These were all in the 1800's
If your family was in anothr city you will have to order films from the LDS library and check other cities.
There is also the 1848 Jewish census and 1869 Jewish census at the LDS Library.
The website Jewishgen has tons of information and they add more each day. You have to pay to see many of the databases, but it is well worth it.
I have not done this yet.
I think it is interesting that your family went to Ungvar where my great great grandfather Abraham Fisch was before he came to America and also another son of AAron Shaje Fisch...Ignatz Fisch lived after being fron Nagy Kallo.
When your family went to Chicago there were Fisch relatives there.
I do not not know if this list will help you, but it was worth a try.
By the way I am in touch with another Fisch who had thier name changed to Halasi. You two are the only ones I have heard of that changed their names. I have not talked to her in a long time, but I hope to help her also.
She also found out she was a Fisch when she was adult.
What do you think?
I will write you again tomorrow and give you some dates.
One more important book you must buy is "When The World Was Whole" by Charles Fenyvesi.
The whole book is about the Fisch family.
He wrote the whole book from family stories, it is not a research paper, but a wonderful book. It tells how they loved the land and were very respected. They are still remembered.
Regards,
Geri Roth

Regards,
Geri Roth

12/01/2008, 06:15:06
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch name change

That was wonder information. Thank you.
It is a thrill when a family story is confirmed!
I would like to ask you a favor.
Could you please look on that list and see if you have a Fisch (posible Israel Fisch) who changed the name to Halassi or something close to that. Maybe Halaz or Halasz.
Thank you very much,
Geri Roth

12/01/2008, 06:25:38
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kezdi: Re: Fisch name change

Dear Geri,
You're welcome, happy to do it for you. I copied the northeastern part of Hungary. The next closest 2 in Satoraljaujhely, let me know if that applies.

New surname Old surname Given name(s) Place Year

Halasi Fisch János Nyiregyháza 1875
Halasi Fisch Adolf merchant and children Bela and Geza Nyiregyháza 1881
Halasi Fisch Adolf Ábrahám ladies taylor Kraszna 1886
Halász Fisch Adolf civil servant at the rairoad Ungvár 1886
Fenyves Fisch István sergeant in the army M.(aramaros)-Sziget 1890

Happy New Year,
Joseph

12/01/2008, 07:37:04
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kezdi: Re: Fisch name change

Dear Geri,
I saw your Satoraljaujhely_[karolyfalva] post this morning, I looked up the last two names, hope it's a match.
Joseph

New surname Old surname Given name(s) Place Year

Halász Fisch János civil servant at the rairoad S.-A.-Ujhely 1886

Halász Fisch József savings and loan chief accountant S.-A.-Ujhely 1886

12/01/2008, 17:26:20
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch name change

Dear Joseph,
Your information is a wonderful present.
It will certainly help me in my research.
I will share this information with a cousin who is a Halasi and a new found cousin whose family was a Fisch. This information could be a big help to her.
What an interesting list you have.
Regards,
Geri

12/01/2008, 17:49:30
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dehuszar: Re: Fisch

Dear Geri (and others)
Thank you for so much information and for guidance as to where else to find information!
I believe we might have a match with one of your entries: Fani Fisch (widow) Napkor...father Herman Fisch Ungvar/mother Fani. "My" Fani also lived in Ungvar. My grandfather used to vacation there often and I believe he visited Fani and other family members.
It's funny you mentioned "When the World Was WHole." I loved that book and it seemed strangely familiar, but at the time that I read it, I thought it was all about the Schwartz family. So now I will go back and read it again.
Also, a book by the author of "Kalloi Cakdik" led me to the fact that my grandfather's sister Etelke (a Fisch/Huszar/Szepesi) and her son Laszlo (my father's cousin) died in Auschwitz in 1944 as "slave laborers." I imagine many members of the family were killed by the Nazis/Arrow Cross, etc.
I'll get back to you with more information when I have time to organize all the notes I have collected.
Marguerite (dehuszar) Allen

13/01/2008, 03:41:53
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

According to Hungarian Jewish encyelopaedia (1929) the community of Nagy Kallo and Nakor consisted of 983 people in 194 famalies.
Out of 982 people 962 died in Auschwitz or in other death camps or in forced labor camps between 1941-45!

Very shocking when you see it in black and white.
Geri

13/01/2008, 04:05:13
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

Dear Robert,
Please check out what I wrote to you on Radix in the past few days.
Regards,
Geri Roth

13/01/2008, 04:08:50
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kezdi: Re: Fisch

An other great book:
Upon the Head of the Goat by Aranka Siegal

13/01/2008, 08:28:23
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Bob Fisch: Re: Fisch

Geri:

Do you have an e-mail address that I might use to share information with you, instead of having to go through Radix?
I would like to attach some files to such a direct e-mail that will inform you of my family history, both in Hungary and the US. I am not family with the ins and outs of Radix.

Bob Fisch

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Bob Fisch: Re: Fisch

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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

Bob, you can contact me at freelanceflowerz -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com

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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

I went to the library and got the book.
I read it yesterday.
Very nicely written and transported me back to that tme.
It was very sad, but interesting.
Thank you,
Geri

19/01/2008, 21:04:29
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Hershel Schwartz: Re: Fisch

Dear Geri
Hi
I am really delighted that you have done a lot of research about the famous Fisch family, I am myself a descendent of this family, i have some information to share with you, also some questones to ask from you.
Please cotact me at:
Hershels -a-t- verizon -d-o-t- com
Thanks
your cousin
Hershel

10/03/2008, 21:17:31
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normanlee1 -a-t- bellsouth -d-o-t- net: Re: Fisch

Dear Geri,

I have picked up a few of your threads today on the Fisch Family, Nagykallo Hungary.

I had a great grandma named Hanni(nee Fisch) Klein who lived in Gelenes near the Tisza River.

She often told my mother that she was from Nagykallo and had all those imposing relatives that were survivors with Rabbi Itzak Taub in the Trial of the missing youth in the 1780's.

Any mention of her in your search?

Norman Weiss

25/08/2008, 19:32:39
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Geri Roth: Re: Fisch

I am thrilled to hear from you. I will get back to you as soon as I can.
A new cousin!
It was such a huge family and little by little the few left are finding each other.
Geri

27/08/2008, 19:47:31
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dpaneth: Re: Fisch

Hello Cousin,

I am also a descendant of R' Yaakov FISCH Z"L.

I am aware that both your g.g.g. grandfather Aaron Shaye and Avrohom Avish were sons of R' Yaakov. I was in Nagykallo in 1990 and 2009 and have photos of their monuments.
Can you confirm that he had another son that lived in Kisvarsany, Hungary.
Supposedly my g.g.g. grandfather Isomor Ephraim KRAUSZ
was a son i.law of Moshe FISCH the son of R' Yaakov.

If he had a son called Moshe, I can introduce you to an additional few thousand cousins !!!

Best regards,

Dov Paneth
Lakewood NJ
732 2766499

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mgelbstein: Re: Fisch

My name is Moshe Gelbstein my mother median name is Fisch g.g.g.g.grand child of R'yokv Fisch I will be I'H in Kallo next month on 7 Ader, when i was there about 20 years ago with my Grand father Mordchi Sholmo fisch he showed me the house of his Grandfather R' Burch Fisch (in back yard he told me there was a Mikvah but the people didn't let us in at that time) i was too young and didn't write down the address is there any possibly to find that street name true Hungary title recording for the house, or by any chance do you know where it is, also when i was by Zion of R' yakov (I go almost every year )i noticed that front and back tomb is not same front says R' Yokov and behind the tomb in laying position is the sons do you know which is right??
thank you hope you could help me out

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mgelbstein: Fisch Family

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PACHTINGER: Grunwal-Grunfeld=Biederman

Hi, Kati
Eloszor is talan tudok neked segiteni. es leforditom a Geri uzenetet. Geri Roth-Fish keresi a Fish es Roth csaladot es ker mindenkit , hogy irjanak neki barmilyen adatokkal mind a ket csaladrol
Kati, talan te tudds nekem segiteni. Az en anyukam Gabriella Biederman 1912 julius 8.szuletett KUNMADARASON Anyukaja lanykori neve volt Grunwald Malvin.(talan volt 3 testvere a Malvinnak) Grunwald Malvin szulei ebben az idoben KUNMADARASON laktak Grunwald Bernath es felesege szuletett GRUNFELD ( talan Sarolta)E-mailjel nekem paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com
halas koszonettel, ha barmit tuds a dedszulokrol kikutatni.

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PACHTINGER: Grunwal-Grunfeld=Biederman

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PACHTINGER: Grunwal-Grunfeld=Biederman

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PACHTINGER: Grunwal-Grunfeld=Biederman

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PACHTINGER: Re: Nagykallo Eabbi Taub

Hi, Mr Gelbstein,
I too visited Nagykallo. so did my father etc on the Yortzeit ( 7th Adar )of the Tzadik Rabbi Taub. ( It is inde middle of a busy road, but the actual " CaveŁ is behind the housed.
At that time there were still som Jewish people living there. I will try to get you their telephone numbers, if they still live there, they might be able to help you with any research.
My E-mail address is paveanyu -a-t- gmail -d-o-t- com I presume you are going in Adar Sheni.

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mgelbstein: Re: Fisch

Hi Mr. Roth I am a grand child of R'Yokov Fisch ZT'L and I am going to kallo in 3 weeks i would want a little more info about history of cemetery . I am also trying to find out info on which street the fisch family lived, i would like to go visit the street, please advise if you could be in any help for me
Thank You
Moshe Gelbstein
212-837-4662
Mgelbstein -a-t- gficap -d-o-t- com

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mgelbstein: Re: Fisch

18/02/2011, 20:04:17
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ygelbstein: Re: Fisch

(this is to Moshe Gelbstein), Sorry to break in, but do you know where your fathers family comes from? Gelbstein? Is it around szatmar by any chance? Thanks

28/04/2011, 05:57:46
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PACHTINGER: Re: Fisch

Hi Kati, csak most vettem eszre az E- mailedet. En szivesen lefprditok neked mindent a magyar nyelvrol angol nyelvre amit szeretnel elkuldeni a Gelbstein Urnak az en E-mai; cimem paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com
Ugyan akkor szeretnelek megkerni, ha tudnal e segiteni Az en Anyukam Biedermann Gabriella KUNMADARASON szuletett 1912 Julius 8. Anyukaja ferjezett neve Biederman Malvin, lanykori neve Grunwald Malvin Szulei Kunmadaros laktak Ugy tudom, hogy a Grunwald Malvin apukaja volt Grunwald Bernat
a Grunwald Malvin anyukaja volt Grunwald Bernatne szuletett Grunfeld (talan Sarolta) Ugy tudom hogy a Grunvald Malvinnak voltak testverei is. Katica tudnal e nekem segitenia nagyszuleim/dednagyszuleim mel kapcsolatban. Kik voltak a Grunwald Bernat szulei? ( Talan Naftali Grunwald ) Ki volt a Grunfeld Sarolta/Sheindle szulei? Apja Talan Grunfeld Zvi?
koszonettel, kerlek valaszolj paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com

28/04/2011, 16:28:26
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PACHTINGER: Re: Fisch

Hi Kati, csak most vettem eszre az E- mailedet. En szivesen lefprditok neked mindent a magyar nyelvrol angol nyelvre amit szeretnel elkuldeni a Gelbstein Urnak az en E-mai; cimem paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com
Ugyan akkor szeretnelek megkerni, ha tudnal e segiteni Az en Anyukam Biedermann Gabriella KUNMADARASON szuletett 1912 Julius 8. Anyukaja ferjezett neve Biederman Malvin, lanykori neve Grunwald Malvin Szulei Kunmadaroson laktak Ugy tudom, hogy a Grunwald Malvin apukaja volt Grunwald Bernat
a Grunwald Malvin anyukaja volt Grunwald Bernatne szuletett Grunfeld (talan Sarolta/ Sheindle) Ugy tudom hogy a Grunvald Malvinnak voltak testverei is. Katica tudnal e nekem segitenia nagyszuleim/dednagyszuleim mel kapcsolatban. Kik voltak a Grunwald Bernat szulei? ( Talan Naftali Grunwald ) Ki volt a Grunfeld Sarolta/Sheindle szulei? Apja Talan Grunfeld Zvi?koszonettel, kerlek valaszolj paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com

28/04/2011, 16:31:12
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PACHTINGER: Re: Fisch Family Research

Hi, Geri If you would like me to translate the Book about the Kaleve Tzadik you are refering to from Hungarian into English I can do it free of Charge. I was born in Hungary and visited the Cave of the Tzaddik. Equally I still know of jewish people who live there. Please contact me direct via my E- mail paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com
Actually I had a cousin living in Budapest Roth Odon ( Donci bacsi) I think in Dembinsky utca/street If I recall it well, they had a son who was blind. I only had contact with them till my parents were alive. Please reply paveanyu -a-t- g-mail -d-o-t- com thank you

28/04/2011, 16:40:54
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katóca: Re: Fisch

Szia! Bocsánat,hogy ilyan sokára válaszolok!Sajnos nem sokat tudok segíteni! Egy halotti anyakönyvi kivonatból csak ennyi: Fisch Adolfné Grünwald Regina meghalt 1893. február 2-án 39 évesen. Született Kunmadarason.(de lehet, hogy Nagykárolyban született) Ő az én dédanyám!
A nagyapám Fisch Ferenc született 1891. okt 7. , meghalt 1944. márc. 31.
Édesapja Fisch Adolf meghalt 1909. júl. 2, 64 évesen. Az ő apja Fisch Áron (atyja neve Fisch Josef) született Miskolcon, 1846. okt. 19.
Ez az összes, amit tudok régi papírokból.
Minden szépet és jót kívánok mindenkinek!

18/05/2011, 15:58:49
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katóca: Re: Fisch

Előző üzenetemben rosszul írtam Fis Áron nevét, Ő s-sel írta nem sch-val, és nagybátyja lehetett az én nagyapámnak.
Köszönöm a megértést!

18/05/2011, 17:58:09
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normanlee1: Re: Fisch

Regarding the famous Fisch Family of Nagy Kallo who were tried and found quity with Rabbi Itzhak Taub in the late eighteenth century and then exonerated when the little boy or was it a girl was found alive having run away, there is a book by Professor Andrew Handler who was at Maimi University last I wrote to him.

As to the Name Roth, I had an uncle named Roth, who was in Hungarian Army until the end of WW I. He came from the Ruthenian area near the small city Munkach near the Capathia Mountain Range near Ungvar and Berecszaz.

He died in the 1990's

19/05/2011, 04:43:32
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normanlee1: Re: Fisch

Arica Siegel lives in Miami in the Aventura area. She is in her mid 80's. She wrote two books and wanted them placed in the Children's library room and wanted the young ones to know of the Holocaust.
Last address:1000 East Island Blvd. (406)
305-792-0493

Good Luck
Norman

19/05/2011, 05:25:48
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Geri : Re: Fisch

Hello I would like to be in touch with Hershels who wrote on this forum. Please post your e-mail so I can write to you concerning Fisch family research.
Thank you,
Geri

22/07/2011, 01:16:27
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diane1st: Horvath

I am searching for my grandfathers family. His parents Julia (Nameth) and Imre Horvath had 4 daughters: Margaret, Irma, Julia and Anna, 2 sons: Frank and Ernest (my grandfather).Irma was the only sister to marry I believe she married a man by the name of Szucs (possibly a different spelling) they had a son Steven who had 2 daughters Suzsa and Anniko, I think Suzsa would be close to my age (64). Would love to hear what has happened to them and any information on my Great grandparents and great aunts

22/07/2011, 01:57:18
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Bluzenstein: Re: Fisch

Hi, my g.g. grandmother, Yehudis Klein(nee Fisch) lived in kiskunfélegyháza prior to the war. Her father's name was Isaac and was an ancestor of the famous R Yaakov Fish from Nagykallo. I hope I can get some additional info through this forum.

I've attached a picture of her.

Following is a link to her profile on Geni.com. http://www.geni.com/people/Yehudis-Klein/6000000007692729667.

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22/08/2011, 02:15:30
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pachtinger: Re: Fisch-Grunwald

Hi Katoca,
Megtudned e talalni, hogy a Grunwald Regina meghalt 1893 aki a te dednagymamad volt hol van eltemetve? Es ha igen /Talan Kunmadaroson Tunal e egy fenykepet kuldeni a Sirkoverol
vagy csak talan elolvasni, hogy mi van ra-irva

Tudod Talan hogy voltak e testverei a Grunvald Reginanak es kik voltak a szulei Kunmadarason.
Ha te Kunmadarason laksz tala megtudod kerdezni a Szuletesi/Halalozasi hivatalt.
Az en anyukam Kunmadarason szuletett 1912-ben
Anyukaja lanykori neve volt Grunvald Malvin, szuletett kb 1877 Kunmadarason
Grunwald Malvin apja neve volt Grunwald Bernat
Kerlek, ha tuds segits megtalalni adatokat Elore is halas koszonettel Vera

22/08/2011, 22:39:07
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Alex Fisch: Re: Fisch

Hello -
I wonder if this will get to you. I am a Fisch - US born to Hungarian father who immigrated in '57. He is a Fisch who was born in 1925. His father Zoltan Fisch was Hunagrian. Happy to be in touch. 323-868-8248 is my cell #.

30/12/2011, 20:17:34
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Alex Fisch: Re: Fisch

30/12/2011, 20:17:55
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I am so happy to hear from you. I will call you very soon. I will be most interested to talk to you. There is nothing I like better than finding a new relative!

30/12/2011, 20:34:30
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katoca: Re: Fisch-Grunwald

Kedves Vera! Nagyon sokára válaszolok, nehéz időszakon vagyok túl: drága édesanyám nemrég meghalt,hosszú betegség után.
Sajnos nem tudok több információt beszeretzni, nem élek Kunmadarason. Érdeklődni fogok, hogy tud-e más valaki segíteni. addig is minden szépet és jót kívánok. Kati

31/12/2011, 16:19:03
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