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jtorres
I am looking for information on the Surname Kazary. I have come to find out that it is not a common name by any means in Hungary. This is the spelling used in the United States by my family. I am not sure if they used alternative spellings with accent markings in Hungary If anyone has ever come accross this surname or any other alternate spelling please let me know.

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Jason
17/04/2005, 22:05:08
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Zlatica: Kazary
Jason

Yes, there is an accent marking and I do not have an appropriate keyboard to show it to you.
You need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research.
There were KAZARIs and KAZARYs that came thru Ellis Island to America. www.ellisislandrecords.org
www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator (surname navigator)
17/04/2005, 22:11:10
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jtorres: Re: Kazary
I have been able to locate in the 1920 United State Federal Census the name of the place where my family comes from the only problem I am having is I can't read the name. It's a combination of poor handwriting and poor scanning that I cannot read the name of the village and probably lack of familiarity with the Hungarian language.

The Ellis Island directory I am still trying to identify if the people with the KAZARY or the KAZARI or both are my relatives. I have more evidence to support that KAZARI is my great-grandmother because of factual information.

I have a jpg of the file as well as a SID of the Census document if anyone is willing to take a look at it. SID files can only be viewed with a LizardTech plugin. It is freely downloadable at www.lizardtech.com.

Jason
17/04/2005, 22:25:33
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
Jason

Can you write out the name of a town as the way it looks to you? Did you look in 1930 census? I was under the impression that there is no name of a town in a census only a country. Might be wrong.
There is a town named Kazar in Nograd megye, Hungary.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
If your ancestor had social security numbers or was naturalized citizen than those forms would have a place of birth.
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com
17/04/2005, 23:13:47
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jtorres: Re: Kazary
I found the village name in the 1920 Census. I just saw the button to upload a file. Take a look. I can't even tell if the first letter is a V or a U, second letter an N or M and it looks like at the end their is a Y.

Unfortunately for Social Security they never had one that I can find anywhere.
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17/04/2005, 23:29:11
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
Jason

It can be Ungvar a megye or a city of Ungvar which is now Uzghorod, Ukraine.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
17/04/2005, 23:41:59
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
Jason

What language did your ancestor speak?
Deciphering the census:
Abaj is Abauj megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
Magyar is Hungary, Hungarian
Slavik I would interpret as Slovak/Slavic
A Slovak Republic's phone book is listing KAZAR but not in the Eastern region that borders Ukraine. www.zoznamst.sk
Some of the KAZARIs that came thru EI were from Ungvar.
Were your ancestors naturalized citizen? If not and lived pass 1940 than they would have filed an Alien Registration Form.
17/04/2005, 23:57:31
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jtorres: Re: Kazary
I don't think my last reply went through.

My relatives begin after those from Abaj. I am 100% confident that my family comes from Hungary. They spoke Hungarian. My mother was taught how to count to ten in Hungarian by her mother. As far as Ungvar goes I am not sure. I don't see where the letter "G" in Ungvar is in any of the words. One of the words reads "Unmisgya" or something like that, of course. I just finished filling out all the paper work to request the natuaralizaion records of my great-grandfather. Hopefully the INS will be able to find the records and it will list the village he came from.

I did see the Kazari listed in EI and I am somewhat convinced this is my great-grandmother. I am still trying to confirm this.

Jason
18/04/2005, 01:12:24
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
Jason

You know the size of Hungary at the time of your ancestors
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm and all the languages spoken?
My grandmother had to learn Hungarian but she was born in what is now present Slovak Republic. Keep in mind the (mis)spelling by census takers right with the Abaj which should be Abauj. What if the census taker wrote it the way he/she heard it, Unmisgya sound to me like Ungmegye. No town Unmisgya.
You noticed that there is no specific town but state name only.
Does the information from Ellis Island manifest of Francziska, Erzsebet and Anna KAZARI matches with the information that you have? The three were going to KAZARY Karoly living in McKeesport, Pa.
18/04/2005, 01:45:21
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wkazary: Re: Kazary
I also share the last name, Kazary. Your postings popped up when I did a search on Google. I would be very interested in the results of Jason's research. Because there are so few in the US with the same last name, and my great grand parents immigrated from Hungry, is possible our relatives came from the same town or area.

Thanks,

Wil

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05/05/2005, 15:04:30
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
Wil

Do you know where your KAZARY ancestor was born ?
05/05/2005, 17:11:44
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wkazary: Re: Kazary
No idea
05/05/2005, 17:15:12
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
You will have to locate that ancestral village in order to proceed with the research.
I have e-mailed you to your hotmail account.
05/05/2005, 17:18:15
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wkazary: Re: Kazary
Thanks. I'll do a little reasearch.

Wil

05/05/2005, 17:28:10
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
I have e-mailed you from two of my e-mail boxes. I would have thought that by now you would have gotten the e-mail from hotmail. Let me know.

zlatalzbetka2 at hotmail dot com
05/05/2005, 17:31:07
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jtorres79: Kazary
Today I received my great-grandfather's, Karoly Kazary, Alien Registration Form. I am so happy they found it. I now know that he became a citizen in 1940. He arrived in New York on November 20, 1904 on the SS Patricia. He was born in Hermona, Hungary on July 2, 1876.

If anyone has any info please send it my way. I will begin my research on Hermona, Hungary right away.

Thanks for reading.
07/06/2005, 00:34:06
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
jtorres79

This could be a misspelled name of a town. The closes I can think of would be Homonna which is in Zemplen megye and at present as Humenne, Slovak Republic.
Is the name of a town typed or handwritten by your ancestor? Any way you can post it on the board for all of us to take a look?
07/06/2005, 01:12:59
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Zlatica : Re: Kazary
jtorres79

The ship SS Patricia arrived Sept.15, 1904, Oct. 27, 1904, Dec. 25, 1904 in New York. Nothing for the date you have from the Alien Registration Form.
Take a look for yourself in Cimorelli site on www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html
How about a town named Hermany which is in Szeben megye and at present in Romania?
07/06/2005, 01:33:55
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jtorres79: Alien Registration Form
I will make a scan of it tomorrow. Everything is typed in the document. I may even do some research at the County courthouse since his citizenship didn't occur until 1942. Perhaps I may find citizenship papers for his wife Elizabeth. This would also list the place of birth which will help in identifying the current city name.

Jason
07/06/2005, 02:51:12
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jtorres79: Kazary PDF
Here is a PDF of the Alien Registration Form. I am currently seeking information regarding the SS Patricia. Perhaps the actual day and month is wrong but I hope the name of the ship was correct.
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10/06/2005, 02:49:44
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wkazary: Re: Kazary PDF
Jason:

Nice work. I just saw the Alien Registration Form. Thanks for finding it.

Wil
18/06/2007, 17:47:08
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