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mekucsmas: where do we REALLY come from?
I have found our family surname to be translated from not only Hungarian, but also Ukranian, and even Romanian. I believe we are of Carpatho-Russyn descent, meaning we are a mix of nationalities from the Carpathian region of Eastern Europe. As with most Carpatho-Russyn familes, we have celebrated Polish, Russian, and other Slavik traditions. (In my family, my mother made Hrutka (Easter Cheese) and pickled beets. My grandparents spoke Russian. We celebrated Russian New Year and Christmas.)
Our last family record shows that Pal Kucsmas emigrated from Austria, Hungary, deporting from the German town of Bremen, Germany and arriving by way of steamship in the US on May 23rd, 1900.These records can be found at the Ellis Island website. As with most Carpatho-Russyns, he settled in Passaic, New Jersey. Until moving to the area of Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania, USA to work in the steel industry.
Our native town in Europe may be either Udol, Orlov or Ujak, all located in Hungary.
I would be interested in hearing from anyone in the region of Udol, Orlov or Ujak, or even anyone who has travelled to these areas.
I currently live in Boulder, Colorado, USA.

Warmly, Michael Kucsmas
22/09/2004, 00:08:21
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Zlatica : Re: where do we REALLY come from?
Michael

A map of Austria-Hungary empire (might help)
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at :
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
Some websites on the Rusyn/ Rusin/ Ruthenian roots :
www.tccweb.org
www.c-rs.org
www.rusin.sk/index.html
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
Not to disappoint you but the village of Udol/Ujak and Orlov are in Slovak Republic.
http://mapy.atlas.sk
No, your grandparents did not speak Russian but Rusin.
www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
www.iarelative.com
www.slovaklinks.com
www.slovakfolkcrafts.com
www.slovakinstitute.com
www.spectacularslovakia.sk
www.triptoslovakia.com
www.cgsi.org
www.ncsml.org
www.slovensko.com
www.centroconsult.sk
http://slovakia.eunet.sk
www.tourist-channel.sk
www.obce.info
www.adc.sk/english/slovakia/slovak04.htm
http://linktoyourroots.hamburg.de
The SK's phone site is at :
www.zoznamst.sk
To locate all people that passed thru EI from one village :
www.stevemorse.org
The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing a Greek Catholic church records of Udol. You can order the films and gather ancestral information.
www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording.
www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names first name translation
The Pal KUCSMAS that you mentioned has on the passenger list that he is from Koronelya / Koromlya = Koromla, SK which is in Ung megye (closer to Ukraine's border). He does have a set of numbers by his name, meaning that he was naturalized citizen.
The spelling KUCSMAS is Magyar / Hungarian and in Slovak grammar it is KUC'MAS'. There is a listing for Kuc'mas' in Koromla's phone book.
22/09/2004, 04:50:57
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mekucsmas: Re: where do we REALLY come from?
Thanks for so much information. I'm not disappointed to know that Orlov, Udol or Ujak are in Slovakia. I'm just trying to find where my family comes from since I get a different answer from every relative.

I will research the links you provided.

Once again,
Thankyou,

Michael Kucsmas
22/09/2004, 20:49:25
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Zlatica : Re: where do we REALLY come from?
Michael

Family stories are good and interesting but the name of a village is what you actually need to start researching.
The village Udol's old name was Ujak.
23/09/2004, 02:13:01
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bbleslie03: ancestry
looking for any info on Koromlya, Hungary (Austria). This would be circa 1908..........Thanks a bunch.
19/07/2005, 02:37:04
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Zlatica: Re: ancestry
bbleslie

The village of Koromlya is in Ung megye as Koromla, Slovak Republic.
The old map is at : http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
Use http://mapy.atlas.sk to locate a town in SK
19/07/2005, 02:51:08
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bbleslie03: Re: ancestry
Thanks for your info, I will check it out. I'm new at this site, so forgive me when I ask, what does SK mean? Thanks.........Leslie
19/07/2005, 02:57:45
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Zlatica : Re: ancestry
Leslie

Have you searched the internet? Are you aware that you can post on Ancestry and Genforum board? What are the surnames that you are researching.
Koromla, Slovak Republic (SK an international symbol)
http://genforum.com
www.ancestry.com/share
19/07/2005, 03:00:29
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bbleslie03: Re: ancestry
Thanks for your questions. I have been on Ancestry.com for almost 2 years and have visited a number of other websites as well. I have only one elderly relative left and it seems that none of that family were interested in passing on the traditions or stories of their histories.
The matenal surname is Hrenyo- they being from Koromla, as near as I can tell. I was told by my gr.aunt that my g-g-grandmother and her younger sister came at the same time, but I was not able to substantiate this. However, I did find them both listed in ship manifests 5 years apart. This is how I came to the place name of Koromlya. I feel that this is probably the right 2 people and the right place.
My matenal grandfather-surname Maricak (I've seen a few other spellings) is listed as being from Czechoslovakia and came to the States in 1900. His residence in Czech. is given as Niklos Yagas on the ships mainfest. I was told by the elderly gr. aunt that his father migrated to Czech. from Latvia. Considering that my father's side is Welsh and German, I am turning out to be a real European mutt!
Thanks so much for your
help and interest,
Leslie Ferrand
19/07/2005, 17:38:35
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bbleslie03: Re: ancestry
Thanks for your questions. I have been on Ancestry.com for almost 2 years and have visited a number of other websites as well. I have only one elderly relative left and it seems that none of that family were interested in passing on the traditions or stories of their histories.
The matenal surname is Hrenyo- they being from Koromla, as near as I can tell. I was told by my gr.aunt that my g-g-grandmother and her younger sister came at the same time, but I was not able to substantiate this. However, I did find them both listed in ship manifests 5 years apart. This is how I came to the place name of Koromlya. I feel that this is probably the right 2 people and the right place.
My matenal grandfather-surname Maricak (I've seen a few other spellings) is listed as being from Czechoslovakia and came to the States in 1900. His residence in Czech. is given as Niklos Yagas on the ships mainfest. I was told by the elderly gr. aunt that his father migrated to Czech. from Latvia. Considering that my father's side is Welsh and German, I am turning out to be a real European mutt!
Thanks so much for your
help and interest,
Leslie Ferrand
19/07/2005, 17:38:46
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Zlatica : Re: Hrenyo, Maricak
Leslie

You know the history of Austria-Hungary. You know that Czechoslovakia in 1993 separated into Czech Republic and Slovak Republic.
The surname MARIC^AK and HREN^O list in Slovak Republic's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk
Do you know about One Step www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html in locating a manifest with least information or people from a certain village? From Koromlya 30 people, HRENYO from Roromlya.
George Marichak / Gyorgy Maricsak / Juraj Maric^ak on his EI manifest the town looks like Miklos Vagas. Using One Step there were 4 people from Miklos Vagas. This village is now Miklusovce, Saris region (Saros megye) Slovak Republic. http://mapy.atlas.sk
MARIC^AK lists in Miklusovce's phone book.
The LDS-Mormons website is listing church records of Koromla and Miklusovce. You can order the films and gather ancestral information.
www.iabsi.com/gen/public all in there for research.
www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names a first name translation website.
19/07/2005, 18:21:06
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Zlatica : Re: Maricsak, Mariczak
Leslie

Use an One Step and you should locate a MARICSAKs from Miklosvagas, Miklocz Wagasz and Egreshat. The first two (mis)spellings are for present Miklusovce and Egreshat is in Ung megye, Ukraine. Take a look also at MARICZAKs manifest. The town of Iglo, Szepes megye is now Spisska Nova Ves, Slovak Republic. While you are in One Step, look at KRENYOs and HRENOs manifests.
The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
All the names that present Koromla was known by: Korumlya, Korumla, Korumja, Koromlak, and Koromlya.
19/07/2005, 22:02:19
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bbleslie03: Re: Maricsak, Mariczak
ever hear of a town called Harlyo?

Thanks, Leslie FErrand
20/07/2005, 01:17:54
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Zlatica : Re: Maricsak, Mariczak
Leslie

In the old Ung megye there was a village named Horlyo which is now in Ukraine.
Go to http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Ung, locate Ungvar (present Uzghorod)proceed South-East till you see Szerednye and go North to Horlyo.
A good locator is www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
20/07/2005, 01:33:27
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Mick: Re: where do we REALLY come from?
Michael,

your ancestors were Rusyns and you are Rusyn. Rusyns still keep these old traditions, which you mentioned. Udol, Orlov are still Rusyn villages, where people speak Rusyn.
I visited these villages recently.

Mick /Kosice, Slovakia/

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20/07/2005, 07:48:27
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Mick: Re: ancestry
Leslie,

your both ancestors from Koromla and Miklusovce were Rusyns. I have done research for some Hrinyo family from USA, who came from area of Koromla. I visited this village recently. Hrinyo is Rusyn version of name Gregory.
Miklos Vagas is now called Miklusovce, it is very old Rusyn village, almost all people are greek-catholics, but only older people speak Rusyn there in this village. I have dome research for several people, I have traced names Soltys, Sebes, Ondus, Filakovsky, etc.

Mick /Kosice, Slovakia/

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20/07/2005, 07:55:10
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Mick: Re: ancestry
Leslie,

your both ancestors from Koromla and Miklusovce were Rusyns. I have done research for some Hrinyo family from USA, who came from area of Koromla. I visited this village recently. Hrinyo is Rusyn version of name Gregory.
Miklos Vagas is now called Miklusovce, it is very old Rusyn village, almost all people are greek-catholics, but only older people speak Rusyn there in this village. I have dome research for several people, I have traced names Soltys, Sebes, Ondus, Filakovsky, etc.

Mick /Kosice, Slovakia/

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20/07/2005, 07:55:17
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bbleslie03: Re: ancestry
I have been unable to locate any Maricak or Hrenyo in the Slovak phone directory, and I have used all the various spellings. Any ideas?
Thanks, Leslie Ferrand
26/07/2005, 17:29:55
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Mick: Re: ancestry
Many people are not listed in white pages, because they started use cellular phones.

Mick /Kosice, Slovakia/ arusm -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com
26/07/2005, 19:00:58
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Zlatica : Re: Maricak, Hrenyo, Hreno
Leslie

The MARICAKs, HRENYOs and HRENOs are there if you use a zero in the area code. www.zoznamst.sk
26/07/2005, 19:10:29
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