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Ann Vogel: Pasztornyiczky

I am looking for descendants of Joseph and Ann Pasztornyiczky who came from Hungary. I do not know anything about them except that two of their daughters were named Rose and Grace and they came to the United States. Grace was the elder sister. Any information or leads would be gratefully appreciated. I am not sure of the correct spelling of the last name. Rose at times used Pasztornicky. Ann

24/04/2004, 03:02:13
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Ann Vogel: Pasztornyiczky

24/04/2004, 03:02:53
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Zlatica : Re: Pasztornyiczky

Ann

You need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research.

The spelling PASZTORNYICZKY seems in Hungarian / Magyar grammar and Pasztornicky just a bit half and half americanized.
There was a PASZTORNYICKI and a PASZTORNYICZKI that passed thru Ellis Island to America.
You know that Rose, Grace, Joseph and Ann are their American name and not the way it was in Hungary.
www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names

www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
http://vivisimo.com
www.imrehun.com
www.matav.hu/tudakozo Hungary's phone site
http://tudakozo.matav.hu

24/04/2004, 06:10:17
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Louis: Re: Pasztornyiczky

Pásztornyiczky is the right hungarian spelling for sure.Can also be right with the other versions.
Rózsa, József,Anna. Grace is not hungarian name, i don't know how i would translate it.

24/04/2004, 06:31:03
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Louis: Re: Pasztornyiczky

Deregnyő, Zemplén megye. Look here!!!!
There is a famous chateau there.Also the name Pásztornyiczky.

24/04/2004, 06:37:55
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Pam: Re: Pasztornyiczky

Deregnyő is Drahnov today.

24/04/2004, 06:40:47
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Zlatica : Re: Pasztornyiczky

Ann

Since Louis and Pam have pointed out a village, I took the liberty to follow thru.
The village of Drahnov is in Slovak Republic.
http://mapy.atlas.sk

The SK's phone site is at :
www.zoznamst.sk
A Slovak spelling PASTORNICKY lists in the area code 56 which would include Drahnov but no listing there. The closes village that Pastornicky shows up is in Budkovce which is 4km North of Drahnov.

The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing a Reformed church records of Drahnov. You can order the films and gather ancestral information.
www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording.

24/04/2004, 06:52:01
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Ann: Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

I have since discovered Rozalia Pasztorniczka was born in Drahnov, county of Zenske to Jozsef Pasztorniczki (spelling from another person) and Anna roz. Dobrszka on or around November 12, 1905. The date of October 18, 1905 also comes up.
She was one of 16 children. Sons of Jozsef and Anna were: Pistav, Carl, Timothy, Fred, Desider, Sandor, grandson Laci, etc. Daughters were Magdalena, Elizabeth, Ilonka, Grace. Rose came to America when she was 16 so that would be around 1921 and we do not know how she got here except it was on a ship through Ellis Island.

Grace and Rose were sisters and when Rose came to Ohio she lived with her sister Grace. Grace is the only name I have known her by and can find in records. I did find a picture of Grandma Dobrosky who died and was buried in Murray City, Ohio USA.

Also can anyone tell me what this means: "dvacateho osmeho rigna tisic devet set pet."

28/04/2004, 19:38:02
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Zlatica : Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

The village of Drahnov is in Zemplin region of Slovak Republic. There is no Zenske which in Slovak would mean female.
The word roz. / rozena = maiden name
The date you have too seems to be in Slovak/ except for one word rigna does not make sense but it could be Rijna/ Rijen which is Czech for month of October.
28 of October 1965
Pistav is Pista.

29/04/2004, 05:21:33
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janka: message

Hello. I am from Slovakia. My grandfather was Štefan Pastornický. He died in 1992. His wife is Karolína. She live in Trnava near Michalovce on east of Slovakia. I am sure that you are my family. I would like to know something about you. I can speak english only little but I think that it is not a problem.

28/09/2004, 09:14:33
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Mick: Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

Hello, I know village Drahnov very well, I took many many photographs from this village some 2 years ago.

Mick arusm -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com

28/09/2004, 13:29:16
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Ann Vogel: Re: message

Janka: Thank you for your note. Can you tell me the names of your grandfather's brothers and sisters? It would help to have this information to see if there is any relationship. I only speak english - not hungarian. What is your name? Thank you for your help. Ann

29/09/2004, 02:55:51
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Ann Vogel: Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

I know it is asking a lot, but is it possible for you to email some of those pictures to me? I think that is where my mother was born and I am trying to locate some of her relatives. Pasztornyiczky is the family name. Ann Vogel

05/10/2004, 17:56:33
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Ann Vogel: Re: message

Janka: Please email me at javogel -a-t- columbus.rr -d-o-t- com so we can communicate about our family. I would love to hear from you. Ann Vogel daughter of Rozalia Pastornicky (sister to Stefan Pastornicky??).

27/10/2004, 15:45:55
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Ann Vogel: Re: message

Janka: Please get in touch with me. I think you may be family too and would like to get in touch with the family my mother left to come to America. Rosalia Pastornicky was my mother and come to America through Ellis Island in 1921. Would like to correspond with you about your grandfather Stefan. I can send picture that my mother had to confirm if they are members of your family. Thank you

15/01/2005, 02:20:35
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Pasztorniczky IstvĂˇn: Hungarian line

Hallo all Pasztornyiczky, Pasztorniczky, PĂˇsztornicki...!
I am a hungarian man, my father born in "DeregnyĹ‘" village, this village was in "Grand-Hungary", but from Trianon-peace this is Slovakia ("Checzhoslowakia"?), and the village's name is tuday "Drahnov". Sorry, I Don't no speak english, just a little. My grandfather' name: Pasztorniczky TihamĂ©r.
In Hungary live now cca. 22 Pasztorniczky named person. My father's brathers name is PĂˇsztorniczky and PĂˇsztorniczki.
If anywhu speak hungarian, please write to me hungarian, but english letter too interessant me.

30/03/2005, 19:25:41
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Ann Vogel: Re: Hungarian line

To: IstvAin Pastorniczky: thank you for writing. My mother Rose Pasztornyiczky came to America in 1921 at age 16. Her parents were Joseph & Anna (Dobrszka) Pasztornyiczky. Rose's brother and sisters were: Magdalena (Valeria her daughter), Illonka (her husband Pali Demjan), Elizabeth, Grace, Pistav, Carl, Sandor, Timothy, Fred, Desider, Stefan, Carl, Lace. There are other siblings but I do not know of them. Rose was born in Drahnov, county of Zemplin. I had heard from a Janka but have not been able to get in touch with her again. Her grandfather Stefan and his wife Karolina Pastornicky may be relatives. They live in Trnava near Michalovce.
I would like to write to you to share information to try to locate my mother's family. Thank you. Ann Vogel, daughter of Rozalia (Rose) Pasztornyiczky. email me at javogel -a-t- columbus.rr -d-o-t- com

31/03/2005, 04:37:29
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Pasztorniczky IstvĂˇn: Re: Hungarian line

Hi,Dear Ann! You are my father's first cousin! Your grandmother, and my father's grandmather is one and the same! She name was Dobroczky Anna. My grandfather is your grandmother's brother, hungarian named TihamĂ©r (Timothy?). I live in a hungarian city "SĂˇtoraljaĂşjhely", whitch is near "DeregnyĹ‘" ("Drahnov")cca.40 km. My father Pasztorniczky JĂłzsef is 75 years old, he live in SĂˇrospatak city, in Hungary. His brothers are ElemĂ©r and SĂˇndor,they are living in Budapest city, fourth brother, Lajos already dead. Rose's sister (Ilonka, whom husband was Pali DemjĂˇn) live in a small (hungarian) village - hungarian named Borsi - from SĂˇtoraljaĂşjhely city 5 km, but this village is now in Slovakia. She is live and healthy.
Good bye!

31/03/2005, 15:39:49
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Ann Vogel: Re: Hungarian line

You have made me so happy!! I would like to start some type of letter writing with you and your family. If you could send me your home address, or send me your email address, I will send pictures of your family here. I would love to have pictures of your family too. If you could send some that would be wonderful.
When Illonka and Paul were in America they stayed in our home. I will try to write to them. Thank you so much. My email address is: javogel -a-t- columbus.rr.com -d-o-t- Ann Vogel

31/03/2005, 16:19:34
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Ann Vogel: Re: Hungarian line

IstvAin: Do you know Ilonka and Pali's home address in Borsi? I was so excited I forgot to ask for it. Thank you so much. Ann Vogel

31/03/2005, 16:31:06
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Ann Vogel: Re: Hungarian line

To IstvAin Pasztirnyiczky: In rereading your letter, I felt that Ilonka was alive and that Pali had passed away. Is my assumption correct? Ann Vogel

01/04/2005, 01:14:48
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Ann Vogel: Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

Attention Zlatica: I wanted to thank you. As you can see from the Pasztornyiczky surname file, contact has been made with the Pasztornyiczky family in Czech. I am very thankful for all the help that you provided. Thanks again Zlatica. Ann Vogel

01/04/2005, 01:19:45
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Zlatica : Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

Your welcome, Ann.

Glad to have helped. I have been informed of your correspondence with Istvan. He uses a correct Hungarian diacritical markings and thus the spelling for the names comes out "funny". I am sure you noticed that. Unless it is only my screen. Did you sent a letter to Trnava pri Laborci?
I did find some PASTORNICKYs listings in Czech Republic.
http://phone.quick.cz
I have seen the term Czech used as a generic term for someone being from former Czechoslovakia.

01/04/2005, 01:32:42
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sándor: FAMILY MEMBER

Hy! My name is Pásztorniczky Sándor, and I'm looking for members of our great family all the world. I live in Budapest, Hungary. My father's name also Pásztorniczky Sándor, he was born in 1932 in Deregnyő, Hungary, recently locates in Slovakian Republic (former Checz-Slovakia).

01/04/2005, 17:43:27
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Pasztorniczky IstvĂˇn: Re: Hungarian line

Hi Ann! I don't no Ilonka's home adress, but on Saturday or Sunday i go to Ilonka a surprise visit, and Monday i scribe to you. Istvan

01/04/2005, 18:35:53
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Pasztorniczky IstvĂˇn: Re: Hungarian line

To Ann Vogel: Yes, Ann, your assumption is correctly, Pali Demjan had passed away about 10 years ago. Istvan

01/04/2005, 18:41:53
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Pasztorniczky István: Re: FAMILY MEMBER

To Sandor: Szevasz Sankó! Örülök, hogy te is bekapcsolódtál ebbe a világ körüli családi levelezésbe. Ha megírod az email címed, neked is küldök családi dokumentumokat, amik nálam vannak. Hívj fel a 30/470-0087 mobil számon, és bemondom az én email címem, nem tudom ezen a lapon megtalálható-e? Üdv! Gabriellának is!

Pisti

01/04/2005, 19:43:25
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Pasztorniczky István: Re: FAMILY MEMBER

01/04/2005, 19:43:39
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Ann Vogel: Re: FAMILY MEMBER

Sandor are you any relation to Istvan?

02/04/2005, 00:32:17
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sándor: Re: FAMILY MEMBER

Of course !! István is my older cousin. His father József and my father Sándor are brothers.

02/04/2005, 20:33:05
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sándor: Re: FAMILY MEMBER

Szia Pisti !!! Én is örülök, hogy így összehozott minket a technika ördöge. Apámtól hallottam erről az oldalról, tényleg nagyon érdekes. Az email címem: sweethome*freemailponthu. Sokszor csókolunk benneteket: Sanyi és Gabi

02/04/2005, 20:37:57
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Ann Vogel: Re: Pasztornyiczky/Dobrszka

Dear Zlatica: I wanted to update you on what has happened over the past year or so since I made contact with my mother's family in Hungary, Slovakia and the Czech Republic. My second cousin and I email each other quite frequently and I have made contact with other cousins in Slovakia and the Czech Republic and we email as best we can with the language barriers. I did write my letter(s) to locate my mother's brother. And, I actually found 2 relatives with the same letter - my mother's brother and another of her brother's sons (her brother Istvan had passed away). Unfortunately, they do not speak English so it has been difficult as I do not speak Hungarian or Slovakian--but they found someone to transcribe what I had written so we had some contact--it is difficult because of the language problem.

I would love to make contact with the Janka who at one time wrote a note in Radix Forum but it appears she has never come back to the website. She and her grandfather are family also--Stefan was another of my mother's brothers.
If you ever see her make contact in the Forum, I would hope you pass it along as I want to make contact with that part of mother's family too.

Again, you have no idea of how much you have helped both families on both sides of the ocean. I will be forever grateful. Thank you again. Ann Vogel

08/10/2006, 18:25:17
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