RadixForum : Board for Hungarian genealogy research
RadixForum surnames places archives váltás magyarra contact log in new user

The index to the 1828 census of Hungary is now available. Click for details!

Surnames :: Pomucz genealogy

New message Pick place for surname

Data for this surname in RadixIndex: click to see them!

Pomucz Tivadar: pomucz-ok
Ha bárki bármit tud a Pomucz-ok családfájáról és a történelmi szerepéről, kerem írjon nekem e-mail-ben.
Köszönöm.
09/10/2003, 12:42:59
#: 200310127

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile



Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
If you can write in English please e-mail me directly.
21/02/2005, 04:50:48
#: 200502881

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Kerekes György: Re: pomucz-ok
Szia Tivadar!

Hogy volt e a Pomucz-oknak történelmi szerepü azt nem tudom, de egy csomó Pomomoczzal találkoztam kutatásaim során. Hogy mit csinálok, had ne írjam le mégegyszer, megtalálod a helyek közt, Gyula városánál. Ha bármi konkrétum érdekel írj, ha tudok segítek.
Üdv Gyuri
21/02/2005, 15:56:37
#: 200502904

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
"Régóta foglalkoztat a román származású Pomutz György személye, aki egyébként Somogyban nevelkedett. Végigharcolja Klapka összes csatáját, Komáromig bezárólag, aztán Amerikába távozik, ahol Iowa államban a magyar telep, Új Buda meghatározó személyiségévé válik. Voltak ott merész húzásai is: pl. Xantus Jánossal gyönyörű térképeket rajzoltatott, amelyek alapján egy New York-i ügynökségen keresztül felparcellázott telkeket bocsátott áruba, mondjuk a Kossuth Avenue vagy a Magyar Street mentén. Mikor aztán a vevô megérkezett, hogy beköltözzön a telekre, akkor derült ki, hogy ott semmi egyéb nincs, csak a puszta préri, amit különben Pomutznak semmiféle jogcíme nem volt eladni.

Pomutz György aztán rendkívüli érdemeket szerzett az amerikai polgárháborúban, és mint az egyik legszebben dekorált tábornok szerel le 1866-ban. Rögtön ki is nevezik az Egyesült Államok szentpétervári konzuljának, majd fôkonzuljának, aki ilyen minôségben ott bábáskodott az évezred ingatlanüzleténél. Akkor adták el ugyanis az oroszok Alaszkát az amerikaiaknak valamivel több, mint hétmillió dollárért, s biztosan nem egy amerikai honatya morgolódott, hogy ez már megint valami Pomutz-féle ingatlanspekuláció, drága pénzért telket vásárolni az Északi-sarkon.

Nehéz ma el nem játszani a gondolattal: vajon ha néhány dolog másként alakul, Pomutz nem lehetett volna-e Magyarország, Románia vagy Erdély fôkonzulja Szentpéterváron? S ha igen, nem szerezhette volna-e meg inkább minekünk ezt a távoli tartományt, ahol az alaszkai indiánok és eszkimók emelték volna fel a szabadság zászlóit, ha mi már elejtettük ezeket a lobogókat?"

http://www.hhrf.org/szabadsag/archivum/1997/7mar-22.htm
21/02/2005, 16:19:22
#: 200502905

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
Eszt romanul van:

George Pomut
Sz. 31 majus 1818, roman cslad Gyula-ban, de jotek Sacele-tol, Brasso Megye; kereszt (Gorok Keleti).
Meghalt 12 oktober 1882, Moskva, Smolensk temetoben van.
Beszelt 5-6 nyelv: magyar, roman, francja, angolul, orosz (lehet hogy nemetul is).

"Comemorarea Generalului GEORGE POMUT
120 de ani de la moarte

În aceasta toamna se implinesc 120 de ani de la moartea lui George Pomut (12 octombrie 1882), personalitate proeminenta în Revolutia de la 1848-1849, în Razboiul Civil American (1861-1865) si Consul al Statelor Unite în Rusia, la Sankt Petersburg.

George Pomut s-a nascut la 31 mai 1818, într-o familie româneasca din Gyula, originara din Sacele, Brasov, si a fost botezat la Biserica Ortodoxa româna. Personalitatea sa îsi trage seva din trei culturi: româna, maghiara si americana. Românul George Pomut, dotat nativ cu însusiri deosebite, s-a instruit pina la nivel universitar, vorbind sase limbi: româna, maghiara, franceza, engleza, rusa. La 20 de ani, sub influenta miscarii de înnoiri politice si sociale pornita în întreaga Europa, a intrat în viltoarea revolutiei pasoptiste ungare, dezlantuita dupa 15 martie 1848. Dupa înfringerea revolutiei ungare, George Pomut s-a refugiat în Italia, de unde, în februarie 1850, a trecut Atlanticul, oprindu-se mai întii la New York, iar apoi stabilindu-se în statul Iowa. În 1861, cind a început razboiul civil din America, s-a înrolat capitan în Regimentul 15 voluntari din Iowa, sub comanda colonelului Reid. Remarcindu-se în lupte, a fost ridicat la gradul de general si numit Consul general al SUA la Sankt Petersburg, functie pe care a detinut-o vreme de 12 ani (1866-1878). În calitate de consul, a avut meritul de a mijloci cumpararea peninsulei Alaska de catre Statele Unite ale Americii (1867) de la rusi, cu suma modica de 7,2 milioane dolari. Cu ocazia acestui eveniment a participat la încheierea tratatului americano-rus. George Pomut, generalul de origine româna si erou al Statelor Unite ale Americii, s-a stins din viata la 12 octombrie 1882, la Sankt Petersburg, fiind înmormintat în cimitirul Smolensk din capitala de atunci a Rusiei. Se spune ca a lasat în urma lui o avere uriasa, niciodata gasita. (M. C.)"

http://64.233.161.104/search?q=cache:r6g0vi1KZyUJ:arhiva.monitorulcluj.ro/2002/2002.10.12/cititori2.html George Pomut&hl=en
21/02/2005, 16:29:35
#: 200502906

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
Konyv:

PATACHI, Liviu. Generalul George Pomut: 1818-1882: viata adevarata a unui er. Cluj : Fun. Cult. Rom., 2001
21/02/2005, 17:40:44
#: 200502911

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
"I would like to close with a true story. One hundred and fifty years ago, a young Romanian who had fought for freedom in the 1848 revolution emigrated to America. His name was George Pomutz, which in Romanian means "little tree." Once on American soil, he volunteered for Lincoln's Army and fought in some of the key battles of the Civil War, including Vicksburg and Atlanta. Our `little tree' went on to become a general in your Army and later an American diplomat, serving in Russia, where he helped negotiate the American purchase of Alaska. In 1944, long after his death, the Romanian community in the United States donated money to build a battleship, named for Romanian-American General George Pomutz. The ship named for the "little tree" served in peace and war, always a symbol of strength and vigilance. Over the decades, Pomutz' story attests to the common roots shared by our two people, the closeness of their souls, their love of freedom and their willingness to fight in its defense."

ADDRESS BY HIS EXCELLENCY H.E. EMIL CONSTANTINESCU, PRESIDENT OF ROMANIA (House of Representatives - July 15, 1998)

http://www.fas.org/man/nato/national/h980715-rom.htm
21/02/2005, 17:55:51
#: 200502913

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: pomucz-ok
General GEORGE POMUTZ (1818-1882)

The general and diplomat George Pomutz became famous due to his services under arms and the diplomatic abilities with which he served the United States. Born of Romanian parents, Romanian himself through blood and feelings, versed in Hungarian and American culture, he became known throughout his life as a courageous and dignified man, whose life resembled in many respects a legend.

George Pomutz was born on 31st May 1818 in Gyula (Giula, as Romanians call it), a city located in corner Békés County of Hungary.

At the beginning of the revolution in 1848, G. Pomutz enrolled in the Hungarian army. His military unit was even successful in the battles in the summer of 1849. Pomutz’s enthusiasm for the Hungarian revolution was mainly due to his education in Hungarian schools.

G. Pomutz leaves the fortress of Komárom between October 1-3 1849, after the surrender of the fortress to general Haynau. G. Pomutz, still young and with no obligations, chose to emigrate to the United States of America.

Together with 30 of his comrades, G. Pomutz left Hamburg, reaching New York on February 24, 1850. The group of the emigrants settled in the state of Iowa. Their small colony was baptized New Buda, south of Burlington.

On March 15, 1855, G. Pomutz became a full rights citizen of United States. In 1861, G. Pomutz explained the need for Hungary to make friends with its ethnic minorities, as well as the need for cooperation with Moldavia and Wallachia. The events, however, would not develop the way G. Pomutz wanted and his destiny would be linked to the American Civil War, which, when it broke out, our hero would enroll voluntarily in the Union Army in order to support its generous ideals.

He was accepted as a lieutenant in the 15th Regiment of Infantry Iowa, comprising over 1.000 soldiers and 37 officers. G. Pomutz was promoted to first Lieutenant and then Adjutant. He was especially appreciated for his calm and courage.

In the summer of 1863 he was promoted to Major and in May 1864, at the beginning of the Battle for Atlanta, General Frank P. Blair brought him to the Army Headquarters, and appointed him “Provost Marshall” of his Army Regiment (XVII). In August 1864 Pomutz requested that he be sent back to 15th Regiment Iowa, the transfer was approved, and he was to command this Regiment being promoted to Colonel-Lieutenant. Always in the line of fire, G. Pomutz fought in numerous difficult battles.

With regard to the military capacities of G. Pomutz in the Battle for Atlanta, General Walter O. Gresham, Commander of the 3rd brigade which comprised Pomutz’s Regiment, once wrote: “I have met Pomutz; one brave and courageous officer, who enjoyed great popularity among his comrades and soldiers. He is not only a valuable officer, well-versed in all military questions, but also a man of superior culture, a well-mannered gentleman.”

General Pomutz had also been member of the Organization of Former Volunteers, Loyal Legion and of the Blue Arrow Order.

After the war G. Pomutz returned to Keokuk. Here he received notice of being appointed consul of the United States in St. Petersburg in Russia, appointment well earned, on February 16, 1866. Grant’ successor President Rutherford B. Hayes promoted G. Pomutz to General Consul, in 1874.

The fact that he was kept in such a post for 12 years recommends him as a diplomat full of abilities and qualities. He was highly appreciated also because of the 8 foreign languages he knew so well.

Pomutz solved a very serious incident between Russia and the United States. There is also information stating the fact that Pomutz took over at some point the Russian-American negotiations regarding the sale and buy of Alaska.

He died on October 12 1882 in Petersburg in great poverty. One of the Ohio State senators mentioned the two Romanian heroes, General George Pomutz and Captain Nicolae Dunca, among the fighters who shed their blood for the unity of the United States of America and engraved their name in letters of gold on the pages of American history.

The Mayor of Cleveland stressed, in 1932, that the Romanian heroes’ part in American history was to “bind together, through their sacrifice the spirit of the American and Romanian people.”

Gyula, April 18, 2002

http://www.romanul.hu/indexro/cultura/manifestari/Gen G Pomutz (short)[1].html

This image is attached to the message.
To see the image in original size, please click on it.
07/06/2005, 21:13:06
#: 200506282

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj
Ha valakinek kel valamit kutatni a Gyulai gorok keleti roman anyakonyvek, ezt lehet irni nekem (dan_draggon k-u-k-a-c-z hotmail p-o-n-t com)

Most nekem vanak a mikrofilmek:

Miklosvaros (Magyargyula)

szuletesek 1814-1895 (majd lesz a 1779-1814 is; a 1786-1802 elpusztultak)
hazasagok 1802-1895
halotak (majd lesz: 1802-1895)

Krisztinavaros (Némétgyula)

szuletesek 1835-1895
hazasagok 1835-1895
halotak (lesz: 1835-1895)

Udv,
Dan
28/06/2005, 16:35:22
#: 200506957

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Gyorgy Pomucz szuletes anyakonyv
It van a Gyorgy Pomucz-nek a szuletes anyakonyv (31 majus 1818, Magyargyulan)

Apa: Ioann Pomucz
Anya: Viktoria

This image is attached to the message.
To see the image in original size, please click on it.
30/06/2005, 15:52:39
#: 2005061035

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

altwien: koszonom
kedves dan,
koszonom az informaciokat

istvan
30/06/2005, 16:00:50
#: 2005061036

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: Gyorgy Pomucz szuletes anyakonyv
No. 63
1818 martie 31
prunc
S-au nascut pruncul parte Georgie in luna Mai
zioa 31 anului celui mai sus. Tatal pruncului Pom-
utz Ioann si muma Victoria
lacuitori oras Jula s-au botezat, si
sau ouns cu sfantul mir prin mine preotul, Atanasie Georgievici
parohialnic a sfintei bisearici,
H(ram) S(fintului) I(erarh) Nicolae care se afla in orasul Jula
in luna si zioa cea, ce sau pus supt anul, si sau dat in sfantul botez
pruncului numele Georgie Nasul lui au fost Plaha (sau Plasha)
Elena lacuit oras Jula
Ecstract au capatat Iunie 27 (1)858
30/06/2005, 16:10:42
#: 2005061038

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

altwien: koszonom
kedves dan,
koszonom az informaciokat

istvan
30/06/2005, 16:17:15
#: 2005061040

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: Gyorgy Pomucz szuletes anyakonyv
George Pomucz (18 majus 1818 - 12 oktober 1882)

This image is attached to the message.
To see the image in original size, please click on it.
23/04/2006, 04:44:31
#: 2006041212

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile

Hurgoj: Re: Gyorgy Pomucz szuletes anyakonyv
George Pomucz (18 majus 1818 - 12 oktober 1882)

This image is attached to the message.
To see the image in original size, please click on it.
23/04/2006, 04:44:39
#: 2006041213

post reply
edit
abuse?
profile


© 2003-2008 Privacy statement Terms of service