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Nadine Hardin: Racz Picture
Researching Ann (Racz) Kertai from Raba Potana, Gyor Megye.
Her husband is Emery Kertai:
Indiana, South Bend Tribune, Local Obituary, May 1, 1953.
Emre Kertal.
Emre Kertai, 1224 N. Eclipse St., died 6 a.m. today in St. Joseph Hospital after an illness of four months. He was born Nov. 4, 1877, in Raba Potana, Gyor Megye, Hungary, and came to South Bend in 1904 from Hungary. He was married to Anna Racv who survives with three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emre Jr.; four daughters, Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. John Conjalka, Mrs. Erma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Pajor, all of South Bend; a sister, Mrs. Julia Littai, in Europe, and 14 grandchildren. The body was taken to the Nemeth Funeral Home.

Indiana, South Bend Tribune; Local Obituary, Funeral Notes; May 2, 1953.
KERTAI – The funeral of Emre Kertai, 1244 N. Eclipse St., will be held at 9 a.m. Monday in St. Stephen’s Catholic Church with Rev. Joseph P. Horvath, pastor, officiating. Friends may call in the Nemeth Funeral Home. Pallbearers will be John Arpasi, Joseph Gulas, Victor Gyorkos, Joseph Varro, Joseph Szabo and James Kurnyak. Burial will be in Highland Cemetery. Among the survivors is a daughter, Mrs. Velma Conjalka, South Bend Indiana.

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04/07/2003, 18:59:04
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Nadine Hardin: Racz Kertai
Researching the Racz and Kertai family from Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. Istvan and Mary Racz, parents to Anna Agnes (Kertai), Agnes (Varga) Racz, Erno Racz, and Laci Racz all born in Raba Patona. They live in close proximity to my grandparens, Balint and Rozi (Fejes) Galgoczi, as the Galgoczi families are from Koronco, Gyor, Hungary, and are related. I would like to know if anyone is searching along these family lines. Thank you very much, Nadine

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Local Obituaries; Monday, December 17, 1979.
Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday in St. Joseph's Hospital after a lengthy illness. She was born on July 26, 1886, in Raba Patona, Gyor-Megye, Hungary, and had lived in South Bend since 1908, having come from Hungary. On December 11, 1908, as Anna Agnes Racz, she married Emery A. Kertai, who died on May 1, 1953. Surviving are four daughters, Mrs. Velma Conjalka of Pompano Beach, Fla., and Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. Irma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Tajar (Pajar), all of South Bend, three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emery H., all of South Bend; 18 grandchildren; 35 great-grandchildren; two great-great grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Agnes Varga of Hungary, and two brothers, Erno Racz and Laci Racz, both of Hungary.
Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home. She was a member of St. Stephen's Catholic Church.

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Funeral Notes; Tuesday, December 18, 1979.
KERTAI - Services for Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, who died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday, will be at 10 a.m. Thursday in St. Stephen's Catholic Church. Msgr. Elmer G. Peterson, pastor, will officiate. Burial will be in Highland Cemetery. Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. today and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home, where a wake service will be observed at 7 p.m. Wednesday.
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Manifesto for passenger Anna Racz, line 0023 on the Ultonia Ship, page 0732, arriving in New York on November 09, 1909.

Name: Racz, Anna
Ethnicity: Hungary Magyar
Place of Residence: Rabapatona, Hungary
Date of Arrival: November 09, 1909 (Port of New York)
Age on Arrival: 25y
Gender: F
Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Ultonia
Port of Departure: Carnaro, Triest, Austria

0023. Racz, Anna, age 25, single; able to read and write; subject of Hungary (“Magyar”); last permanent residence is Rabapatona; nearest relative from Hungary her father, Istvani ("Istvan") Racz; her final destination is South Bend, Indiana; passenger ticket was paid for by her father; has $26.00 on her person; going to join her brother-in-law, Imre Kertai, living at 1501 S. Catalpa Avenue, South Bend, Indiana. Anna Racz appears to be traveling by herself.
18/08/2003, 08:27:49
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I am actively researching the Raba Patona Roman Catholic Church Records on Microfilm at a Church of the Latter Day Saints.
I am researching my grandfather's paternal lineage of Papai and Lorincz as well as Varro. THe records go from 1715-1895. I would be glad to assist if I can. I have been looking at these films for 4 months already. The Papai family was in this city from 1700 on.
The interesting thing is that I saw something else on Balint Galgoczi-what caught my attention was Mt. Pleasant Michigan-that's where I grew up and mother lives there and has lived in Rosebush, Michigan.
What a small world.
13/09/2003, 01:29:35
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
P.S. The Papais and Varros settled in SOuth Bend, Indiana.
13/09/2003, 01:37:20
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Indeed, what a small world, I have many descendents from Mt. Pleasant, Michigan and visited my Hungarian grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins in Mt. Pleasant and Rosebush (nearby). I would love to exchange information. Could you give me the film number you are viewing? I will need to reply in more detail tomorrow, as our roadrunner service went amok and we are waiting on a service all (I am writing this note from work). Thank you so much for replying. Nadine (Hungarian and very proud of it!)
13/09/2003, 02:46:09
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
The films I am looking at are 630845 and 630846. Births, deaths and marriages in Raba Patona from 1715-1895.
All the Hungarian family members were in South Bendm Indiana to begin with. Some went to Michigan to pick sugar beets in about 1930 around Charlotte, MIchigan. 2 brothers stayed in MIchigan so there are Hungarian Papois still there.
I grew up in Mt. Pleasant-my mother and a brother still stay there. I left and lived in CHigago for 20 some years and now live in Northwest Illinois.
I can look up names in the Raba Patona records if you want. I am looking up a Maria Kertai that married an Istvan Papai(he was born in 1857) so I am already involved in some of the names you are, too.
Thanks for responding back. Candace COle.
13/09/2003, 03:26:15
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Candace, would it be a lot of trouble to look up all the KERTAI, RACZ, HORVATH and especially, GALGOCZI families in the films? The Galgoczi family are my grandparents, and their surname is also at this RADIX forum! I also have their history in the Isabella forum (Michigan)under genealogies and histories at the bottom of the web page. My great-grandparents are Stephanus and Rosalia (Horvath) Galgoczi; grandparents are Balint and Rosa (Fejes) Galgoczi. I just mailed off for the death certificate to Imre Kertai, husband to Ann Racz. The Galgoczi, at one time hail from Koronco, close to Raba Patona. Very, very appreciative, Nadine
13/09/2003, 05:22:05
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I copied the information on the Racz family-dates and names I'll look on the ship manifest and see if anyone else from Raba Patona came at the same time as Anna Agnes Racz.
Were the Gaogoczi's in Raba Patona? I know that Racz is not a common name so that should be quite easy. Horvath is a very common name so I will need more in the way of names and approximate dates to get on the right track.
I had copied lots of birth records when I began because there were so many Papais. So I will look through them today and see what I see. I will be going Monday and Wednesday to further research so I will keep you updated.
If you think of anything to add that may help me post another message between now and Monday. I'm going through all the records with a fine toothed comb now to make sure I haven't missed anyone and to finalize some birth and death dates.
A Maria Kertai married a Stephanus Papai in 1880. He was born in 1857-I am looking for her birthdate. Her parents were Istvan Kertai and Terezia Farkas.
Also a Maria Kertai married a Josef Papai in 1911. He was born in 1885. I still have to research her.
My great grandparents were born 1874 and 1881. At one time there were less than 100 houses in RabaPatona. By 1900 there were probably less than 200. It is interesting because in the later years all the births,deaths and marriages had the House Number listed and that helps you trace the particular family.
My great grandparents came to the US in 1909 and 1910. They probably knew the Racz's. Interesting. I will ask some of the older family members if they remember this name.
It is an honor to assist.
Candace Cole.
13/09/2003, 19:48:12
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
14/09/2003, 00:08:13
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Emery (Imre) Kertai’s (b. Nov. 4, 1877) death certificate did not reveal his parents, nor did his wife, Anna (Racz) Kertai (b. July 26, 1886 in Raba P). Anna (Racz) Kertai’s siblings, Erno and Laci Racz, brothers, and Agnes Racz, sister (she married a man with the surname, Varga) – all were in Hungary when Anna died in 1979.

Imre has a sister named Julia. Imre can be seen on the ship manifesto dated Jan 07, 1905, listing his father-in-law as Abraham Ferencz. From Anna Racz’s manifesto she lists her father as Istvani Racz. Imre Kertai and Anna (Racz) Kertai birth years were separated by almost 11 years, so Imre could possibly have lost a first wife before he married Anna Racz.

Note, there is a Nandor Kertai, b. Oct. 5, 1895 that emigrated to So. Bend, also, much later than 1905, from Raba P., I have not been able to connect them!

Anna (Racz) Kertai traveled to Rosebush/Mt. Pleasant Mi. with my father, mother, and Andy Horvath. Andy has a sister called Elizabeth (aka “Seconda” – meaning second born). Elizabeth Horvath married an unknown Voros. The Horvath’s parents are Julia (Julianna) Koller and Stephanus Horvath, and that is how they are connected to my grandfather, “Balint” Galgoczi, son to Stephanus and Rosalia (Horvath) Galgoczi. Kertai – Racz – Horvath – Koller – Voros they all went to South Bend, Indiana early 1900 – 1920s. My grandfather, “Balint” Galgoczi – which you mentioned originally, has really sparked my interest. I would love to know where you came across his name on the film.
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My computer is in the shop, am replying from work.)

Thank you so much, Nadine
14/09/2003, 00:10:49
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I have been looking at a lot of the records I have that I copied. Was the name always spelled Racs? I see several records with the last name Rozs. It makes sense but I will wait until I hear back from you.
I did see a marriage between a Stephanus Varro and a Rosalia Kertai. I am researching the Varro Family since Ethel Papai married Jozsef Varro after coming to the US. They both were born in RabaPatona.
Once I check the date for Anna Racs I will be able to see the spelling they used at the time and I will know where to go from there.
Candace Cole.
14/09/2003, 00:35:18
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
14/09/2003, 02:34:38
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello,
Anna spelled her maiden name RACZ, not RACS. Thank you.
14/09/2003, 02:36:35
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diane eubanks: Re: Racz Kertai
I am researching a family (Palhegyi) where one of the female family members Erzsebet Palhegyi(b.1922) married Ferencz Racz(b.1916). I have communicated with a son from the marriage who still lives in Decsfalva Transylvania. I wondered where your family originated. I am not familiar with the area of Hungary you mention. Is it in Romania now? Is there any chance of a connection? My Palhegyi family settled in Chicago after living in New Castle PA.
Thanks, Diane Palhegyi Eubanks
26/10/2003, 18:11:32
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I have been researching several families from Rabapatona, Hungary. This is in the County of Gyor in northeastern Hungary near the Austrian border. I am looking now in the Rabapatona Civil Records that cover 1895-1911. The Racz Family I have found had several children born starting in 1884-these are the family members Nadine in the previous messages was looking for. The family had A Ferencz born in 1886 but he passed away as an infant.
I am still looking for descendants of this same family in these years but just got the films yesterday. I am also waiting on some other films from Koronco-a town near Rabapatona to look there for them too.
You should get a reply from Nadine who's family this is, I forwarded your message to her in case she didn't get it from this forum.
My family I am researching includes:Papai,Lorincz,Varro, and many others. Most everyone from these families that came to the US ended up in South Bend, Indiana.
Candace Cole.
26/10/2003, 19:27:38
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, at this juncture, the Racz families I am researching were from Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. Anna Racz married Imre Kertai in South Bend, Indiana and they had many children. Some relatives were in Michigan, but that is all I know. You can contact me at my email address if you would like to exchange more information.

Thank you, Nadine
27/10/2003, 03:49:08
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Diane Eubanks: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello again. I'm afraid the Racz I am researching is most likely another family. Erzsebet Palhegyi and Ferencz Racz are definitely from Transylvania now in Romania. It is possible that Ferencz had relatives in Gyor but it would probably not be a close connection. My grandfather Nicholas Palhegyi had a grandmother who was a Lorincz (Marta b. 1854) but also from Transylvania. A very small village called Matisfalva. They were married there on 6 Sep 1875.

Can I ask you, is there an easy way to find out if there are films for the villages I am researching in Romania? I don't believe they would be available since it has been very difficult to do research there until recently and even now it requires permits. Thanks for your help and quick answers. Diane Eubanks
29/10/2003, 08:57:00
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
You can click email me directly with your email and I can give you some more information. I am Candace Cole @ scole -a-t- MWCI.net -d-o-t- I would be glad to help.
29/10/2003, 14:22:12
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Jerry Jasper: Re: Racz Kertai
Diane,
Does your Racz connection in Transylvania happen to be from Szatmar County, in particular, Szent Marton or Berend (now all in Satu Mare, Romania)? If so, I have information on this family.
Jerry
22/11/2003, 01:35:02
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Nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, the Racz family in the 1880s are from Raba Patony, Gyor, Hungary. Candi Cole is helping me with this family.
At our family gatherings, my family remembers Anna Racz mentioning she is related to us through the FEJES family. This surname is the maiden name of my grandmother, Rozi (Fejes) Galgoczi. At one time, the Fejes families resided in Sopron, before that era, I do not know where they resided. Candi Cole has been helping me with Anna Racz through mic.film; Anna is daughter to Istvan and Maria Kaloci, siblings-Istvan, Irno, Anton, Agnes, Imre. Thank you, Nadine
23/11/2003, 16:32:51
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Darlene Horvath: Re: Racz Picture
I came across this site while looking for my ancestors. I saw my father's name John Arpasi and my Step grandfather Joseph Gulas.
05/02/2004, 21:11:43
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Eric: RACZ Janos
I seek the Family of RACZ Janos, born in Fuzesgyarmat in October 1936. If you know people and family ties

04/05/2004, 23:13:30
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eric : Re: RACZ Janos
Janos left Hungary in 1956. It went to France... If you know his family...
05/05/2004, 18:01:21
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nadine: Re: RACZ Janos
Hello Eric,
I know of no RACZ that went to France, could you tell me a little more of Janos Racz? His parents? Any brothers or sisters? Origin in Hungary? What year was Janos born?

Thank you for inquiring. Nadine
06/05/2004, 01:44:58
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Marlene Norton: Racz
Does anyone know of Victoria Karasz Racz? She was born in 1889 in either Palanka or Hodschag. She would be the sister of my grandmother.
09/07/2004, 01:08:43
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nadine: Re: Racz
Hello, the only information I have on my Anna Agnes Racz, is she was born July 16, 1886 in Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. And a dear friend did some micro-film work from church and civil records that revealed she is the daughter of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloczi; her brothers and sisters are:
Laci, Istvan, Anton, Agnes, Imre, Julianna, Erno, and Lazslo. All born the same area in Hungary.

Thank you, Nadine
09/07/2004, 15:47:16
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Gregg: Re: Racz Kertai
My wife's grandfather was named nandor kertai and he lived in south bend for a very long time.He died in 1994 he was in his late 60's and had his ashes spread from a plane over south bend.I hope this helps in some way .---How did I find you messege?---I was playing around on the internet and searched my wife's grandfathers name because I always thought it sounded so cool. Take care Gregg
19/08/2004, 04:38:53
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, I have OFTEN tried to determine if NANDOR was related to the RACZ-KERTAI connection I have. Someone from your family was researching Nandor, but never replied to my inquiry. Could you tell me a bit more about Nandor?

Thank you very much, Nadine
19/08/2004, 22:20:38
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Marlene Norton: TOTH-RACZ
Does anyone know of Victoria Toth married to a Racz? She was born in 1889 in either Palanka or Hodschag. She would be the sister of my grandmother.
19/08/2004, 22:51:27
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Arpad Domokos: Re: Racz Kertai
My mother is Eniko Racz. Her sisters, Ildiko and Julianna Racz were born in Zilah ( Zalau, Romania) My mother Eniko was born in Szatmar ( Satu Mare, Romania) My grandfather, Gyula Racz was born somewhere in todays Russia. They also lived in Ermihalyfalva for a short perid of time.My granfather married Iren Olah , I think in Nagyvarad(Oradea) moved to Szatmar in the 60s.
27/02/2005, 22:36:17
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
My Anna Racz married Emre Kertai in the US, the following obituary reveals her brothers and sister at the time of her death.

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Local Obituaries; Monday, December 17, 1979.
Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday in St. Joseph's Hospital after a lengthy illness. She was born on July 26, 1886, in Raba Patona, Gyor-Megye, Hungary, and had lived in South Bend since 1908, having come from Hungary. On December 11, 1908, as Anna Agnes Racz, she married Emery A. Kertai, who died on May 1, 1953. Surviving are four daughters, Mrs. Velma Conjalka of Pompano Beach, Fla., and Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. Irma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Tajar (Pajor), all of South Bend, three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emery H., all of South Bend; 18 grandchildren; 35 great-grandchildren; two great-great grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Agnes Varga of Hungary, and two brothers, Erno Racz and Laci Racz, both of Hungary.
Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home. She was a member of St. Stephen's Catholic Church.
01/03/2005, 06:19:17
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jjaspernc: Re: Racz Kertai
Do you have any earlier record of your RACZ family in Szatmar? I have a Sara RACZ, born 1807, married to Ferenc GASPAR. They lived in Szentmarton, Szatmar. Sara had a sister, Erzsebet RACZ, born 1805, married to Antal MARKUS. They also lived in Szentmarton. Connected was a Rozalia RACZ, born 1754, married to Antal KIS, again of Szentmarton, Szatmar. This RACZ family was of nobility and of the Greco Catholic faith.
01/03/2005, 23:10:57
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello,
Sorry - I cannot go back that far. Wish I could!

Warm regards, Nadine
05/03/2005, 01:56:37
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Jeff: Re: Racz Kertai
I have to apologize; I'm entering this forum without having contributed anything. I'm looking for some history on Racz's in the Warren and Youngstown areas of Ohio. Mike was my grandfather. His sisters were Lizzy and Mary. Mary still lives in the Youngstown area (her married name is Vansuch), and she makes a mean Kolachi. I'm beginning to try my hand at it and after 3 years, I'm getting the hang of the dough. It drives my wife crazy. This message board caught my eye originally when I saw South Bend, IN (I'm an ND grad), and I hate to think that I missed an opportunity while I was there to meet up with some folks. If you know anything about the Racz's of NE Ohio, give me a shout. If you have any favorite recipies I'd love to hear about them too. Best, Jeff
02/04/2005, 06:21:53
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jjaspernc: Re: Racz Kertai
Jeff,
Do you have any additional information on your grandfather Mike Racz and his siblings? If they immigrated to the USA, and you have some additional information, the Ellis Island website would be a good place to start. There are over 1000 Racz surnames on the Ellis Island list so you will need some way to cut down the number. You can do this by using the Hungarian given names (I am assuming they are Hungarian) for Mike and his siblings, but still will be left with a lot of choices. The list can be greatly shortened by approximate arrival date, using the villiage or town name in which they lived, their approximate age at time of arrival and other such parameters. Do you know if they travelled together and/or arrived with one or both of their parents? If they were headed directly for Youngstown, this will also show up on the records. Put together what you can find out about them and give it a try, assuming they did immigrate during the period that Ellis Island was in operation. This should be an easy chore for an ND grad . I would be happy to help you with this but would need some more information to make a reasonable search.

As Mary still lives in Youngstown, she would be a good place to start in gathering the facts that will get you on your way.

Happy hunting!

Jerry

02/04/2005, 14:38:48
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Zlatica: Re: Racz
Jeff

No need to apologize. We are all beginners at one time.
Hopefully you have read all the posts on this board. You need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research. I am sure you know that you start with what you know, YOU and go backwards.
Take a look in www.ellisislandrecords.org You need to register but no money.
A first name translation website : www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names
If your ancestor had social security numbers http://ssdi.rootsweb.com you can request the SS-5Form and it should have a place of birth. If your ancestor was naturalized citizen than his naturalization petition should have information, depending when he was naturalized. If he was not naturalized and lived pass 1940 than he would fill out an Alien Registration Form. Unfortunately, you did not provide any dates for us to do a quick search.
www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator (surname navigator)
You can also check out http://genforum.com www.ancestry.com/share and post your query.
Just a tidbit of information and nothing to do, at this time, with your research as you do not have a name of a town but a surname RACZ and RAC shows up in Slovak Republic's phone book. In a census of names done in 1990 there were 105 RACZs in Poland. Even some listings in Austria.
www.genealogienetz.de/reg
02/04/2005, 15:16:24
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Jim Lakatos: Re: Racz Kertai
My father, an orphan, was raised by Anton Racz in South Bend Indiana. Anton and his wife, Agnes, had no children of their own, but "took in" those in need. I would have not responded, but in the obituary you submitted I saw the name Pajor... two of my father's "foster-brothers" raised by Racz were named Pajor. If this is of interest I can give you birth date (about 1880) and look up the obituary, though most obits printed by the South Bend Tribune only indicate: Hungary

As a child I was familiar with a Kertai bacsi.....might have been your relative.
21/04/2005, 20:57:11
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Jerry, Hello Hoosier!! I too, was raised in South Bend, IN. Yes, Jerry, I would love all the information you can provide, and would cherish it. I know Anton Racz is brother to Anna Racz who married Mr. Kertai. Our family dearly loved Anna, she was a real sweetheart, and she IS related to my maternal grandparents. Oh, what memories you bring back of our Anna. My email is hardin3942 - at - juno.com.

Isten Valetek! Nadine
21/04/2005, 22:44:10
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
My mother is a daughter of Anna Racz who married Emery Kertai. She is the last remaining child of Anna Racz. Her name is Mary Pajor. My parents do not have internet access so I will need to show them this website. I am just beginning to do some geneological research. I am interested in how you obtained the microfilm work from the church and civil records.
24/04/2005, 03:59:40
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nadine: Re: Racz
Hi, I got most of my information from obituaries, a friend looked up microfilm, which I added. But I will look up microfilm also when I retire in two months. You can go to the LDS site (www.familysearch.org) and look for microfilm under Raba Patona (where some RACZ-KERTAI families are from. Also, I mail of for obituaries and death certificates (etc.) from SoBend, my home town (I now live in FlA). Raba Patona (Hungary) is just across some r.r. tracks from Koronco, where my grandfather (Balint Galgoczi) is from, and they are related to each other!

There were other RACZ families in South Bend, Anton Racz was the only brother I could find to Anna Racz Kertai. Could you tell me if other RACZ families in SoBend are related? I would really appreciate that.

Anna (Racz) Kertai used to visit us so often at our home where I was raised. We cherished her! She ALWAYS had a smile on her face. Look under Galgoczi at this site (under surnames).

I would love to hear from you again (hardin3942 - at - juno.com). Nadine
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LPSami: Re: Racz Kertai
This is my great great grandmother! If anyone is related, please contact me and nevanihon29sy -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com !! Thank you!
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kb9778: Re: Racz
I'm not sure this helps you, but, my mother (Julia) and her sister (Margaret) immigrated from Gyor in 1956. Julia settled in NJ while Margaret settled with her husband in Mishawaka IN. A sister remained in Gyor and brother in Pest; all the sisters were born in the 1930s.
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I now know that Anna Racz is connected to my maternal grandmother, Roza Fejes who married Balint (Walter) Galgoczi(please see Galgoczi or Fejes at this site). This connection would be in Hungary. I have no other information at this time. Nadine
20/01/2006, 03:59:12
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Kathleen Parr: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Nadine,
I have been trying to find my great great aunt and her name was Lidi/Lidia Pár she was born tenyohegy 1871 ,I am not sure
but I think she married a Racz. I was wondering if you had ever heard of her. Also i hear of so many hungarians that have gone to south bend, Indidna. I am trying to trace my cousins steps her name Gizella Molnar and I think she married an antal molnar{same spelling}they moved to south bend,st joseph county, indiana. Do you know of any molnars
that were in south bend. I am going to say they married around 1906.
thank you,
kathleen parr
12/02/2006, 20:55:35
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Kathleen,
Yes, I do know of Molnars that lived in South Bend, Steve, Frank, and Emery (Imre) Molnar all brothers, the later one a dear friend of my father (who was born 1910). I did have them in a South Bend census living near my grandparents, and most of the brothers attended my father, my grandfather, and my grandmother's funerals. I personally remember Emery Molnar. Click on profile at this forum and you will see my email address. I can help you in your search, or at least try. Nadine
12/02/2006, 22:14:55
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Kathy: Re: Racz Kertai
Could I have any information on Anna Zsedeley who was Emre and Anna Kertai's daughter? Thank You.
07/09/2006, 00:36:28
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
I am the oldest grand-daughter of Anna Zsedely. What would you like to know?
06/07/2007, 17:46:11
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marianne: Re: Racz
Hi,Carol Jean. How is the research coming along on the family history? I am your parents godchild, Marianne Zsedely. My sisters and I are planning a trip to Hungary in 2009 to celebrate my sister, Chris' 50th birthday. How are your parents doing? Do they still come to Venice, Fl which is where I live.
06/07/2007, 17:51:00
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
Marianne,
My parents are well. The research is somewhat slow but we have made contact with various relatives in my mom's area of Gyor and my father's area of Sopron. Our son James who is in college studied abroad and was able to spend a week in Hungary with the relatives. One of my mom's cousins has sent information about the family which I will look up. Things have been very busy with my immediate family - marriages, births, within the last year so I am late replying to this post. I would love to go to Hungary someday. I do remember you and am glad to hear how you are doing. They haven't been to Venice lately. I will share this post with them.
16/07/2007, 03:57:52
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
Some helpful information:
I have been corresponding with Szalai Anita who my son visited.
Anita is the grand daughter of Jeno Papai. Jeno was the son of Julianna Racz who was the sister of Anna Racz (Kertai).
Jeno was married to Margit Arpasi (Papai Jenone). Margit is still alive in Rabapatone where Anna is from. Jeno's daughters include: Terus who has two daughers, Andrea and Anita living in Gyor and Julianna who has a son Karoly. I will share more history as the time goes on.

Marianne - contact me at joyous_grandma -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com

16/07/2007, 16:33:34
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pat: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
Your Molnar family interests me. Did the sisters include Elsi & Sophie? I too have a few memories of Catalpa St.
Please feel free to contact direct.
16/07/2007, 17:59:40
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz Kertai
My mother, Mary Kertai Pajor, daughter of Anna Racz Kertai gave me the following information.
Mary Rose Kertai Pajor's brothers include: Earnest, Rudolph, Emery. Her sisters include: Anna Kertai Zsedeley, Velma Kertai Conjalka, Irma Kertai Baichley, Gizella Kertai (died two days old.)
Mary Kertai Pajor's parents were: Emery Andrew Kertai - Gyor, Hungary and Anna Agnes Racz Kertai - Gyor (Raba Patona)
Emery had married previously but his wife had died and no children. Anna was his second wife.
Emery Andrew Kertai sisters included: Mari Kertai Pail - Josef Ne; Juliska Kertai Liptai-Josef; his brother was Sandor Kertai.
Anna Racz Kertai's brothers included: Erno, Laczi, Janos, Anthony and her sisters Agnes Racz Varga,Laslo and Juliska Racz Papoi- Jose.

Emery Kertai's parents included Andrew Kertai and Theresa Roka Kertai. Andrew's parents were Matti Kertai and Maria Kish Kertai. Theresa Roka Kertai's parents included Janos Roka and Betty Varro Roka.

Anna Agnes Racz Kertai's parents were Stepehn Racz and Maria Kaloci Racz. Stephen's parents were John Racz and Katlin Sagi Racz. Maria Kaloci Racz's parents were Janos Kaloci and Ethel Karhuz Kaloci.

I hope this helps as people research further. It will benefit all of us. I especially would like to know my roots too.
Carol Pajor Miller (South Bend, IN)
16/07/2007, 23:48:44
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
Thank you so much for the information on the Kertai and Racz family tree. Your mother has a great memory. I tried to e-mail you direct and I could not because of some error. My e-mail is marianne4fsu -a-t- comcast.net -d-o-t- Best regards to you and your family.
17/07/2007, 15:41:29
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
Thank you so much for the information on the Kertai and Racz family tree. Your mother has a great memory. I tried to e-mail you direct and I could not because of some error. My e-mail is marianne4fsu -a-t- comcast.net -d-o-t- Best regards to you and your family.
17/07/2007, 15:42:08
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I also am very interested in the information. As Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (b.16 Jul 1886 Rabapatona) was a dear friend and related to my grandfather "Balint Galgoczi" via the marriage of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloci, Anna Agnes's parents. Anna used to attend all our Hungarian family functions on Brookfield Street in South Bend, she was a dear friend of ours and is related to my Galgoczi grandfather. At one time, my great-great Galgoczi grandfather lived in Rabapatona, my grandfather, Balint, was from Koronco, Hungary. I am attempting to connect Galgoczi families to the Kaloci (also spelled Kaloczi) families. My Galgoczi families go way, way back in Hungary (see Galgoczi this forum). Thank you very much, Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
19/07/2007, 20:39:50
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I also am very interested in the information. As Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (b.16 Jul 1886 Rabapatona) was a dear friend and related to my grandfather "Balint Galgoczi" via the marriage of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloci, Anna Agnes's parents. Anna used to attend all our Hungarian family functions on Brookfield Street in South Bend, she was a dear friend of ours and is related to my Galgoczi grandfather. At one time, my great-great Galgoczi grandfather lived in Rabapatona, my grandfather, Balint, was from Koronco, Hungary. I am attempting to connect Galgoczi families to the Kaloci (also spelled Kaloczi) families. My Galgoczi families go way, way back in Hungary (see Galgoczi this forum). Thank you very much, Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
19/07/2007, 20:40:11
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
The Molnar family were dear friends to my Farkas/Szabo grandmother and our family as well. Emery Molnar was one of my father's best buddies. I remember Frank Molnar (from video's) and another Molnar brother, one was an attorney in South Bend and smoked a pipe. Emery Molnar had a great hobby, taking movie films of his family/boat trips. The Molnars and my family had picnics, played cards, etc. together. Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
19/07/2007, 20:51:15
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Pat: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
I don't have anything on an Emery Molnar, only Louis, Steve, Frank, Eugene, Andy and 3 or 4 sisters. Perhaps a different family as Molnar was/is quite common.
20/07/2007, 00:38:46
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, my name is Nadine and I live in Florida, I was born and raised in South Bend, Indiana; I am 67 years old. I have been researching a lot of Hungarians in my family from Rabapatona. Other locations include Koronco, both are in close proximity and both are in Gyor County, Hungary. Also, Budapest.

My great-grandfather Istvan Galgoczi (spelled with a leading G) lived at one time in Rabapatona when his son, Aladar (Andrew) Galgoczi was born; Istvan Galgoczi married Rozalia Horvath. My Kaloczi connection is taken from my bible when I wrote down Kaloczi, my mother remembered the surname who said this Kaloczi is connected to my grandparents, Istvan Galgoczi and Rozalia (Fejes) Galgoczi. Also, Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (see picture, this forum) was related to us, she was a dear friend of our family and is related to us, but I have yet to make a positive connection with documents. Anna Agnes visited my grandfather, Balint/Walter Galgoczi in Michigan (son to Istvan Galgoczi and Rozalia Horvath) and made many trips to Michigan with my parents and Andras (Cato) Horvath – see below. Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai went with relatives to meet Andras at the boat when he first arrived in the US, he was about six years old; she also had relatives in Michigan she visited at the same time she visited my grandarents.

You also mentioned Horvath, I have the following Horvaths, all from the areas I earlier mentioned:

Istvan Horvath m. Julianna Koller in Rabapatona (all below are confirmed). They had four known children: Martha Horvath (married Mr. Czvitko) – they stayed in Hungary; Elizabet Horvath (married Nickolaus Voros) – Elizabet imm. to South Bend, In.; Andras Cato Horvath (married Teresa Schreiner) – a twin to brother Anton Horvath – Andras imm. to South Bend, In.; Anton Horvath – twin brother to Andras Cato Horvath (his birth/naturalization documents say he is from Rabapatona) – he imm. to NY, then Pennsylvania. Istvan Horvath and Julianna Koller were born about 1860s. All their children were born 1880s (I have exact dates if you need them). I met personally Andras Cato Horvath and Elizabet Horvath, our families visited each other often. In his later years, Andras Cato Horvath traveled to Hungary and visited relatives in Budapest, Koronco, and Rabapatona.

You can get exact dates, pictures and various documents by viewing the following surnames at this forum:

Galgoczi
Kertai
Racz
Horvath
Fejes

I am very interested in connecting the Kaloczi families to my grandparents (or great grandparents), the Galgoczi/Fejes/Horvath families
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I visited your parents' gravesite in Highland Cemetery (and the Kertai's) when I was in So.Bend, Indiana to attend my brother's funeral. Nadine
24/07/2007, 17:59:04
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KathleenParr: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Nadine there are alot of Kaloczi's and many different
spellings. We are related to Kaloczi's and Horvath from Gyor. There were many as there were many Horvaths. Gyula/
Juluis Kaloczi married Angelika Par. Erzsebét Horvath is who I am trying to locate. She was my great grandmother and married Farkas Par/Paar/Gaar. There was also Galgoczi as godparents. I keep going and looking up info from LDS
records. They made it from Mt. Carmel Pa. to Cleveland and moved again. By the way I know of a Verona Horvath Salem who was a fantastic cook and baker. Can't find her anywhere, the spellings of names change so much thru out their travels , that it is hard to locate people. I believe Juluis Kaloczi , from Hungary , had a sister or cousin from Hungary, named Maria. Go onto the Kaloczi board, they are looking. Hope I can help a little.
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Kathleen, thank you for replying.

You said you found Galgoczi Godparents in some of your finds. Back then,especially in Hungary (our interests) Godparents were usually related to the child being born.

I have seen your posting over the years, and believe I have talked to you before. Email me your interests, and if I come across anything, I will contact you. South Bend was like "little Hungary" when I was a young child. Again, thank you. Nadine

25/07/2007, 13:26:39
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mamaracz: Karol and Rozalia Racz
I am doing research on the Racz family.

Our Line is as follows:

Descendants of Charles Racz:

1 Charles Racz 1880 - 1952, m.Rosalia Ambrus 1883 - 1934;
2 Charles Racz 1907 - 1986, m.Jennie Kovacs b. 1910;
3 Charles Albert Racz b. 1931, m.Leona Mae Call 1934 - 1999.

According to the Ellis Island Ship Manifests Charles Racz arrived in America on the Ship Uranium on September 06, 1910 with his wife and two sons from Vasaegerszeg, Hungary. His trip was paid for by his brother in law Antoin Ambrus. They settled in East Chicago, Indiana. Of course his name was originally Karol Racz with Sons, Karoly and Mihaly Racz.

Although they Settled in Indiana, I can find no connection with the South Bend family. Any information would be helpful.

Natasha
25/07/2007, 20:02:38
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mamaracz: Karol and Rozalia Racz
I am doing research on the Racz family.

Our Line is as follows:

Descendants of Charles Racz:

1 Charles Racz 1880 - 1952, m.Rosalia Ambrus 1883 - 1934;
2 Charles Racz 1907 - 1986, m.Jennie Kovacs b. 1910;
3 Charles Albert Racz b. 1931, m.Leona Mae Call 1934 - 1999.

According to the Ellis Island Ship Manifests Charles Racz arrived in America on the Ship Uranium on September 06, 1910 with his wife and two sons from Vasaegerszeg, Hungary. His trip was paid for by his brother in law Antoin Ambrus. They settled in East Chicago, Indiana. Of course his name was originally Karol Racz with Sons, Karoly and Mihaly Racz.

Although they Settled in Indiana, I can find no connection with the South Bend family. Any information would be helpful.

Natasha
25/07/2007, 20:04:46
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Natasha

I did leave you a post on Ancestry board.
That is not what their manifest says.
Karoly would be Hungarian spelling.
http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.au/names
25/07/2007, 20:55:53
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Natasha

I do not find a town Vasaegerszeg. Of course, it is misspelled.
Go to www.bogardi.com click on 1913 Gazatteer to give you 7 towns in old Hungary that have "egerszeg" in their name.
Did your ancestor speak Magyar? If they did, why did they come under a "Slavic" spelling of their first name and not Hungarian? Did you find your ancestors on 1930 census? Does it say Na-naturalized, Al-alien or Pa-first paper? Those words would be a clue as what documents to locate for a precise place of birth.
25/07/2007, 21:10:40
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Zlatica : Re: Mihal, Karol naturalized citizen
Natasha

Yes, the manifest says they are Magyar.
Did you notice that Mihal and Karol have a set of numbers by their name on the manifest? Have you followed up on the set of numbers? They should lead to a naturalization petition which should have a precise place of birth.
25/07/2007, 21:17:30
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mamaracz: Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
To everyone who has taken the time to reply, Thank You.
It has been tremendously helpful.
I am going to pursue the Naturalization records next.
Is there an easier way to go about this than writing the INS?

Thanks again. I will post again when I find new info.

Natasha
29/07/2007, 18:51:41
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jracz: Re: Racz Kertai
Hi Jerry, it's been ages since I've been here, but in the mean time I've been able to track down some info.

It looks like it was my great grandfather who immigrated to the US. He may have come with his wife, I'm not sure. Her last name was Papista. I have a copy of his death certificate and on it it lists his birthplace as Hajdu, M. H.Boszormeny. My uncle gave me some info and it looks like the city's actually Hajduboszormeny. My questions are only a few at this point. Is the naming convention common, i.e., is Hajdu a state or county or something and is / was Boszormeny a city or town? I did check out the ellis island site, and it's interesting but I can't really make any real information out on it. Now that I'm to this point, does the ellis island site have much to offer? Has anyone else heard of Hajduboszormeny? Anyone ever been there?

Thanks,
24/10/2007, 05:39:16
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Zlatica : Re: Racz, Papista
Hi jracz

You need to register to www.ellisislandrecords.org (no money) to view the manifest. Some manifests have 2 pages so click previous and next in that case. Lots of information on most of the EI manifests. Use One step/gold form www.stevemorse.org to locate people from a Hajduboszormany/Hajduboszormeny etc.
An old 1910 Hungarian megye map:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
The village Hajduboszormeny is in Hajdu megye, Hungary.
Have you posted on Ancestry and Genforum board?
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.felix-game.ca
www.surnamenavigator.org
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adrienne: looking for relatives!
Hello!

My name is Adrienne Guilmette, my parents are Paul A Sadeczky, and Ilona J (Racz) Sadeczky. Maternal Grandparents are Istvan Racz and Margit Steiger. Looking for relatives!

This image is attached to the message.
To see the image in original size, please click on it.
24/12/2007, 16:11:44
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Zlatica : Re: Sadeczky, Racz
Hi Adrienne

Where are you looking for relatives, Hungary?
www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
www.kuijsten.de/navigator
www.infospace.com
www.411.com

p.s. lets put the relatives names in the subject line.
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adrienne: Re: Racz
Hello,

Do you know if Istvan (or son) married Margit Steiger? Children are, Margit, Katlin, Ilona, and a daughter who died at 6mos old.
24/12/2007, 17:12:28
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Zlatica : Re: Racz
Adrienne

What time frame? Do you have town? I am in US.
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mamaracz: Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Hello Again!

I received copies of the Naturalization records in the mail today. Karol petitioned for Naturalization from Albany, Louisiana. Both Rosalia and Karol were born in Holdmezo-vasarhely, Csongrad, Hungary. Their two oldest children were born in Roman Reszioza, Hungary. The images are not high quality so this is the best that I can make out. Any idea where Roman Reszioza, Hungary is? Any suggestions of where I should go next, to dig deeper?

Thank you for all of your help!!

~Natasha
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Hi Natasha

Hodmezo-Vasarhely, Csongrad megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 right side of the map
http://lazarus.elte.hu/autotk
Church records of Hodmezovasarhely in LDS-Mormons (Family History Center).
Juliana RACZ from Rodmesavarsarhely arr. in 1913 thru EI.
www.ellisislandrecords.org
Can you attach a scan of the image where the Roman Reszioza is written? I am not having any success locating the village with that (mis)spelling.
01/02/2008, 20:24:48
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Zlatica : Re: Hodmezo-Vasarhely on Lazarus map
~Natasha

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/38-46.jpg
top of the map page 38 scroll down one turn to see HODMEZO-VASARHELY.

Is Roman to be short for Romania?
Reszioza a Reschitza/Resita/Resicabanya, now Romania? Is it possible that RomanReszioza is an aweful (mis)spelling of Hodmezovasarhely? If they were born in Hodmezovasarhely, they also were married there, would the children not be born there? Of course it would depend on the occupation of your Karol/Karoly ancestor. Do you know Rosalia's maiden name?
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Zlatica : Re: Hodmezovasarhely
~Natasha

www.hodmezovasarhely.hu
use one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org to find people from your ancestral village that came thru Ellis Island.
01/02/2008, 21:17:55
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mracz: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Nadine

hope you are fine. Just wanted to tell you