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Jeanann Jameson: Rak family
hi i am trying to find information on my grandparents. grandfathers name was andrew joseph rock (rak) he was born in 1879 maybe in mikitovich, austria/hungary. i can't even find this town on the internet. my grandmothers name sounds like yellenberger she lived 20 miles from viena austria i think she was born in 1884 her mothers name was veronica stranc if anyone can help me with this i'd appreciate it. pleas send me a email at jjeanann2000 -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com thank you jeanann jameson
21/07/2003, 11:54:40
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Jeanann Jameson: Rak family
hi i am trying to find information on my grandparents. grandfathers name was andrew joseph rock (rak) he was born in 1879 maybe in mikitovich, austria/hungary. i can't even find this town on the internet. my grandmothers name sounds like yellenberger she lived 20 miles from viena austria i think she was born in 1884 her mothers name was veronica stranc if anyone can help me with this i'd appreciate it. pleas send me a email at jjeanann2000 -a-t- yahoo -d-o-t- com thank you jeanann jameson
21/07/2003, 12:02:06
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rozalis: családunk története
Én ugyan nem vagyok Rák vezetéknevű,de édesanyám viszont igen.Rák Margit Anna.Az édesapja Rák József volt,Budapesten lakott Angyalföldön.Én sajnos első osztályos voltam mikor meghalt így nem nagyon ismertem.Feleségét édesanyám anyját Kovács Juliannának hívták,de őt már nem ismertem.Szivesen venném rokonok,ismerősök jelentkezését akik segítenének összerakni a család múltját.
30/03/2006, 15:51:46
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debi: Re: Rak family
My father name is Andry Rak . Are they from The pa area.But he was not born in that year. Andrew
20/11/2006, 13:58:50
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jeanann: Re: családunk története
can someone translate this message for me? i unfortunately never learned anything but english. thanks in advance jeanann jameson
20/11/2006, 18:45:42
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jeanann: Re: Rak family
Debbi, what country did your grandfather come from? he may not be related but in some countries way back boys were named after their father or grandfather. my grandfather came from Lacarak, Hungary. he had brothers but i don't no what their names were. i think he went through ellis island and he went to ohio and detroit, michigan. made a couple of trips to ohio but don't no if he ever went to pa. let me no if there is a connection. jeanann jameson
20/11/2006, 18:50:56
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debi: Re: Rak family
My grandmother is from Hungary I am not even sure of her last name. I just sent for my grandfathers death record.to see if that can help me.My grandfather came from Austria and Hungray empire. My one uncle was named after his father, and it still is done in are family today.My grandfather I think came from the Carpithian Mountain region.I will find out more when I get his death record. Do you remember what you called your grandmother, we called her Bubba.My grandfather was born in 1893 , Did you look in Ellis Island Records to see . Debi
21/11/2006, 01:30:30
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jeanann: Re: Rak family
debbi my grandfather was born in 1879 in lacarak, hunguary. my grandmother was born 20 miles from vienna, austria we think south or southwest. which is close to mitchivici i have the correct spelling someplace. this town is not to far from lakarak. the only thing we called my grandmother was just that grandma. anything else and she would say don't disrespect me. she was quite a lady. oh forgot have checked ellis island just got confused. i no my grandfather came here with two other men. either brothers or cousins not sure. jeanann
21/11/2006, 05:43:04
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narr: Re: családunk története
A trautsondorfi / hercegkúti (a település Sárospatak mellett található) Rák (Rack, Rackh) família családfáját letöltheti a honlapomról ( www.narr.fw.hu )a 'Helytörténeti publikációim' menüben. A Rák családnév meglehetősen ritka hazánkban, ezért gondolom, hogy talán innen származik a nagyapja.
üdv. Naár János
18/04/2008, 21:26:21
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rb: Re: családunk története
jeanann, i saw your letter and i try to translate that message:

she wrote: i am not Rák named, but my mother was Rák Margit Anna, her father was Rák József, he lived in Budapest, Angyalföld (XIII. arr.). I was first class when he died, so I not known him enough. His wife was Kovács Julianna, I not known too her. So I wait messages from the relatives.

I hope that I helped you

your sincerelly
Rák Béla
13/01/2009, 18:16:19
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Debi: Re: családunk története
My grandfather name was Stephan Rak, he was from Cabin zemplin county. my grandmother was from Volasjanka county Uhrozbd , not sure on the spelling on that. her first name was Hellena or Hellen.We have John and Steve, Mike's in are family .
14/01/2009, 02:35:59
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Debi: Re: családunk története
Also Andrew Rak.They came through Elis Island, somewhere in the late 1890 or 1900.
14/01/2009, 02:51:01
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Zlatica : Re: RAK
Debi
RAK, Stefan Felsocsebinye 18 1895 1913
Felsocsebinye, Zemplen megye - Vysne Cabiny and with Nizne Cabiny making Cabiny.
Cabin, Zemplin is Cabiny, Zemplin region, Slovak Republic.
http://krajzemplin.szm.sk
An ALL site for research in Slovakia:
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
Few others:
www.cisarik.com
www.tccweb.org
www.pavlovics.com
Uhrozbd most likely Uzhorod, Uzhgorod, Ukraine.
14/01/2009, 03:37:59
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Zlatica : Re: Andras RAK
Debi
RAK, Andras Hungarym Felsocsebinge (Felsocsebeny)
www.ellisislandrecords.org
A first name site:
http://www.progenealogist.com/hungary/names.htm
http://slovnik.juls.savba.sk/?w=cabiny&s=exact&d=kssj4&d=psp&d=scs&d=sss&d=peciar&d=hssjV&d=obce&d=priezviska&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
14/01/2009, 03:44:01
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Zlatica : Re: Volasjanka
Debi

Volasjanka county Uhrozbd ~ Voloszánka, Ung meyge, Hungary now Volosjanka, Ukraine.
20 people from Voloszanka in www.ellisislandrecords.org I used one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=48.9833&longitude=22.8167&size=big
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/ung.jpg
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/40-49_ungvar.jpg
http://www.mapywig.org/m/WIG100_300DPI/P53_S35_4469_Vel'ky_Berezny_300dpi.jpg top right hand corner VOLOSIANKA.
14/01/2009, 04:00:22
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Zlatica : Re: Hajasd, Ung -Volosjanka
Debi

Hajasd is Hungarian name of Volosjanka, Ukraine.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/40-49_ungvar.jpg in the margin right side
49 people from Hajasd, 1 from Hajazd; 9 from Hajosd; 2 from Hojosd; 5 from Hojasd; 4 from Hojazd. All found with www.stevemorse.org
Ilona or Olena would be Helena
14/01/2009, 04:57:55
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Jeanann: Rak family
I'm interested in anyone knowing family in Lacarak who speak English. This is where my grandfather lived before coming to the United States. His fathers name was Andrew Rak and his mothers name was Catherine. Thanks Jeanann Jameson

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14/01/2009, 19:45:14
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Jeanann: Rak family
I'm interested in anyone knowing family in Lacarak who speak English. This is where my grandfather lived before coming to the United States. His fathers name was Andrew Rak and his mothers name was Catherine. Thanks Jeanann Jameson

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14/01/2009, 19:45:36
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Jeanann: Re: családunk története
hi thank-you for the translation. from what i understand my grandfather was living 40 miles north of Budapest. maybe there is a connection. i would like to continue talking with you. thank- you jean
14/01/2009, 19:52:04
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Jeanann: Re: családunk története
Debbi this is sounding very interesting. my grandmothers name was Magdalena and some of her friends called her Helena. she had a sister by the name of Anna and a brother by the name of Peter. I have no idea the names of my grandfathers sibblings. I have a uncle by the name of Steve. There are several Johns in my family-brother, nephews. I also no that my grandmother's fathers name was Stefan and her mothers name was Veronica. I don't no how to pronounce or spell her dads last name. They lived next door to each other kinda their parents (Magdalena and Andreas) farm land boundary touched. I don't have any living relative to give me information but my mother and she has Demetia a diease of the brain. any information your relatives may have could be interesting. My grandmother may have been married a short while there before he died. so i'm not even sure what her last name was before she went to ellis island. they did not come accross at the same time. he came with 2 or 3 other men. either brothers or cousins. ask relatives if this is familiar to them. thanks again jean
14/01/2009, 20:04:37
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Zlatica : Re: Rak family
Jeanann

Rack, Andrija Lacarak 27 1879 1906
Rak, Adam Lacarak, Croatia 4 1909 1913
Rak, Suzana Lacarak, Croatia
These came thru Ellis Island. www.ellisislandrecords.org
What did your ancestor considered himself to be? I found a Lacarak in Serbia. Have you located Lacarak?
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
www.surnamenavigator.org
www.croatia-in-english.com
14/01/2009, 20:12:17
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jeanann: Re: Volasjanka
thank-you Debbi i am going to try some of the sites you mentioned. your a prayer answered. jean
14/01/2009, 20:20:25
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jeanann: Re: Rak family
hi when my grandfather Andrew came to the United states he ended up in Ill. and then went to Michigan. I don't no if he was ever in Pa. my mother said they went somewhere near Pa to visit people there so i don't no anything more. thanks again jean
14/01/2009, 20:25:37
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Zlatica : Re: családunk története
Jeanann

Debi's ancestor is from present Slovak Republic. We need to establish where your ancestral village Lacarak is in order for you to proceed with the research.
14/01/2009, 20:35:47
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Zlatica : Re: Volasjanka
You're welcome.
Are you sure it is Debi and not me :)
14/01/2009, 20:37:24
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Zlatica : Re: Lacarak (Latscharak)
Jeanann

http://www.dvhh.org/syrmia/village/index.htm
Just wanted to post on the board
Latscharak, Hungary (German)
Lacarak, Serbia/Montenegro (Official
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm
www.surnamenavigator.org
14/01/2009, 21:13:39
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Zlatica : Re: Lacarak /map
Jeanann

I am posting this for future researchers.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/37-45.jpg
right side large 45 and 3 lines down; move the scroll bar slowly as Lacarak and Mitrovica not far.
14/01/2009, 21:30:50
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Debi: Re: Rak family
Ya my grandparnets had a farm in the old country. He then gave it to them when he was in America, They did live next door to each other her name was Strann . Where are you from? I am not sure of the name Peter but I will get back to you on that name it. It seems like there is a Peter.
15/01/2009, 16:49:01
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hamer07: Re: Rak family
Jeanann, my grandmother was Ana Wellenberger, born in 1906 in Lacarak, and passed away recently in Australia. We are definitely relatives, from the Wellenberger family in Lacarak. I am happy to supply more details of the family in Lacarak, the last of them leaving in 1944 during WWII.
Anton
21/01/2009, 15:38:01
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Jeanann: Re: Rak family
Anton, this is the first time in awhile since I have been on this forum so I didn't see your post. Any information you have on relatives who lived in Lacarack would be great news. I have very little information on them. I do believe my grandmother Magdalena Wellenberger had a sister by the name of Ana.She had a brother by the name of Peter or Paul.I could be wrong but there may have been red headed twin girls in the family also but not sure.Has anyone said anything about a girl in the family who had her heal on one foot shot off by a soldier as she was running away? Like I said any info would be great. My great grandmother who married Steven, Stefan , Wellenberger her maiden name was Stranc or Strann or Stranz. Does any of this match with what you no? Thanks in advance for any help. jeanann
25/03/2009, 06:36:12
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Jeanann: Re: Rak family
HI I just saw your post on your grandparents. My great grandmothers maiden name was Stranc or Stranz if this is the right spelling. I have no idea. This is just how it sounded when I heard it years ago. jeanann
25/03/2009, 06:45:12
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hamer07: Re: Rak family
This is what I know of my family.
Andres Josef Rak married Kathrine ? .
They had Elizabeth Rack 1860-1942.
Elizabeth married Anton Hammer.
In 1900 they had a son Anton Hammer.
He married Ana Wellenberger.

Wellenbergers: Jacob Wellenberger (Born:? 1886-1949 died:Udenberg Austria) married Maria Reis (Erdevik Serbia 1884-1961 Germany), and they had Ana Wellenberger (Lacarak 1906-2004 Sydney Australia), then Valentine (passed away in Germany), Stefan (Germany), Maria (Magdelana), Fransz, and Elizabeth(who passed away in the U.S.A. in 2007).
Of my family, Ana Wellenberger married Anton Hammer (Laracark 1900-1931 Lacarak)
they had Michael (Lacarak 1929-1983 Wollongong Australia) and Anton (my father) (Lacarak 1931- ) who both came to Australia. My father remambers Lacarak and the family, and we are still writing it all down.

Why Australia? In 1944 during WWII, Donau Schwabien Germans were no longer welcome in Serbia, some of the Hammer family fled to Germany, some to Austria on one of the last trains out of Yugoslavia, and those that stayed in October 1944 perished. Russians came through supporting the new Serbian regime reclaiming land.
My family were refugees in Austria until 1950, the Hammer family (now Hamer) came to Australia as refugees via Italy. The waiting list to get to the US was too long.
Let me know how I can contact you and I can give you more details. Cheers Anton
25/06/2009, 15:19:49
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