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	rat: Looking for name information Hello folks. I'm trying to confirm whether or not the Rattai name is, in fact, Hungarian. There's been some suggestions, as i (or y) usually indicates "from" and Ratta would be the place, but searching for Ratta has not turned anything up. My great grandparents emigrated to North America via Austria and Poland, but from there, the trail is cold. Any thoughts or insight would be appreciated. Cheers, Kevin		27/06/2005, 06:22:49 #: 200506889 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Looking for name information Kevin In 1990 census of names there were RATTAJs and RATTAYs in Poland. www.herby.com.pl/herby http://maxpages.com/poland www.pgsa.org		28/06/2005, 14:43:34 #: 200506947 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Gabriel: Re: Looking for name information Dear Kevin! I can confirm the suggestion given by another user on the Forum.The reason for you will find this name in Poland just as in Hungarian families is because this name might come from a third and different country:Scotland.The original name it is derived from probably Rattray wich is a clan from the Grampians(Perthshire).You must know that names in the course of migrations could and in fact did change in their spellings(there were three different ways of spelling of my name shown on bills in America and we live in the 21st century!) What is even more important that during the 16th and 17th century Scottish merchants were allowed by the King of Poland to settle in Poland's capitol Warshaw(we talk about 30.000 people in the 1500's)It was like an amnesty.And I do not need to tell you that the interaction and relationship between Hungary and Poland has been always good and friendly(intermarriages between royals etc.)Also borders changed (what is now Slovakia used to be the Kingdom of Hungary).Still in both counries people carry name that suggest scottish roots like the polish Maklejod=Mcleod.In Hungary we have two family names that are sept names of two strong Highland clans Simon(Fraser of Lovat) and the Vass (Munro &Ross). By the way my grandfather who was born in Hungary had a name wich is rare and unusual there(although he was 100% Hungarian in the terms of characteristics and sense of belonging)and suggests relation to the name Rattray and/or Rates from Nairnshire in the Highlands(it is pictish in origin). I am not a geneologist but I hereby tried to give you a comprehensive insight of what I believe the chances could be in your case.		13/02/2006, 14:55:57 #: 200602763 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Marie Rattai was my grandmother's last name who lived in southern part of Manitoba, Canada as a young girl. Her parents were Germans who migrated to areas of the Ukraine and lived near today's Kiev and surrounding towns. Many German people lived in this area of Russia and moved to Canada and America. Would like to know more about names of Rattai and also of the Hallick or Hallicks who migrated from these areas to Canada. Guessing in the late 1800's or early 1900's.Some family remained in their "Old Countries".		05/10/2007, 07:50:24 #: 200710278 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Marie Rattai was my grandmother's last name who lived in southern part of Manitoba, Canada as a young girl. Her parents were Germans who migrated to areas of the Ukraine and lived near today's Kiev and surrounding towns. Many German people lived in this area of Russia and moved to Canada and America. Would like to know more about names of Rattai and also of the Hallick or Hallicks who migrated from these areas to Canada. Guessing in the late 1800's or early 1900's.Some family remained in their "Old Countries".		05/10/2007, 07:52:16 #: 200710279 post replyedit abuse? profile

	rat: Thanks and more Thanks Zlatica and Gabriel. Certainly something I will be looking into. Often people see only the previous or near generations as their ancestry. I hope to eventually trace the family / families back as far as possible. It certainly would not be odd to have the family name originate from somewhere other than Germany, Poland, Hungary, or that area. Welcome, Marie. 20 years ago we had a reunion here in Manitoba. I believe there was somewhere around 800 of us in North America. Somewhere around 500 ended up at the reunion. A large number of us (most) entered into Canada and came to Southern Manitoba. They then migrated from there. My Grandfather was born here along with I think 3 others. I have to talk to him and the family about it again and put it to paper, rather than trying to commit it to memory (something that hasn't worked). The rest (there were 10 children in that family) were born over seas. My Grandfather was born in 1914. Migration of his parents would have occurred early on the 1900s. He was the youngest. His name is Adolph. His mother was Leocadia. I'll have to find the rest of the information that we have. Who was your Grandmother, Marie? You indicate that you know her family lived in Germany for sure? What information do you have regarding the European family?		05/10/2007, 18:44:32 #: 200710310 post replyedit abuse? profile

	sonieb33: Re: Looking for name information In my research I found that the Rattai name was originally from Bohemia which, if I have my history correct, included Hungary at some points in History. The lines have been drawn and redrawn so many times in that part of the world that it's hard to tell who's who and what's what. However there was a large German population in that area for years due to one of their kings welcoming them...and possibly due to a period of religious freedom for Protestants. Following this period I think the German speaking population was discriminated against...which may be why the moved to Poland and Russia. My grandparents supposedly were German but were born in those two places and then emigrated to Canada, where they settled in Winnipeg. I have no idea when my ancestors ever lived in Germany, if ever...although German was both my grandparents' native language (wherever they were from). I've had a hard time finding the name anywhere including Winnipeg although the last reunion there were about 500 people and many could not attend - WHERE are they?? It seems like they ought to show up in web searches by the droves!! But they don't...go figure. Sincerely, S. Brasile (Rattai)		31/01/2009, 18:42:23 #: 2009012008 post replyedit abuse? profile

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