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	Sisak Árpád: 1 Hi! Üdvözlök minden családtagot!		27/09/2003, 22:47:05 #: 200309416 post replyedit abuse? profile

	zolee: Re: 1 Helló kedves Sisak Árpád! Magam is Sisak vagyok, kutatom az Ősöket, te hol születtél, hol laksz?		08/02/2005, 03:59:43 #: 200502279 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Sisák Zoltán: Re: 1 Hi, I'm from Hungary looking somebody to contact with the Familyname:Sisák or Sisak! If you are intrested in that please send me a mail! zolee23 -a-t- freemail -d-o-t- hu		08/02/2005, 05:34:40 #: 200502280 post replyedit abuse? profile

	poland: Re: 1 Hi my grandfather's sister was married to a Sisak our name is Sencuk we are originally from Poland		01/08/2007, 03:31:54 #: 2007080 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk poland SENCZUK in Poland. http://maxpages.com/poland www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/index.html www.polishroots.com/genpoland		01/08/2007, 04:33:51 #: 2007082 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk senczuk? was that our original spelling?		02/08/2007, 00:07:42 #: 20070840 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William63 Are you asking me if that what it was? That is the spelling that shows up in 1990 surname census in Poland. www.herby.com.pl/herby What you know about your ancestor? You have his place of birth? Quick look in www.ellisislandrecords.org produces 4 SZENCZUKs and 37 SENCZUKs.		02/08/2007, 00:13:24 #: 20070841 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Iknow He was born in Poland March5,1888.He was married to a Louise Strachotta june 24 1911he died July 2 1941 and His father was Constantine mother unknown he had a brother George and his sister was married to a Theodore Sisak		02/08/2007, 00:21:35 #: 20070842 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William63 Was he naturalized citizen? Did you try requesting the church marriage certificate or state marriage application to give you a place of birth? If his surname does end in "czuk", I would guess a Byzantine Catholic/Rusyn/Ruthenian/Lemko roots from a historical region Galicia: www.halgal.com What langauge did your ancestor speak? 416 STRACHOTAs, 0 SISAK, and 304 SYSAKs in 1990 census of surnames. Have you located their manifests?		02/08/2007, 00:28:39 #: 20070843 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Galioia/Galizien/Halychyna:Poland; Austria		02/08/2007, 00:29:33 #: 20070844 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William63 So my guess was correct but you still need to locate a precise place of birth in order to proceed with the research. A map of Austria-Hungary http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm Few more maps: www.progenealogists.com/hungary/maps.htm		02/08/2007, 00:32:49 #: 20070845 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk I believe german in the home they went to ohio		02/08/2007, 00:33:23 #: 20070846 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk German? With that surname? How about the religion? Galicia/Halychyna was under Austria's rule. www.surnamenavigator.org www.genealogienetz.de/reg		02/08/2007, 00:35:02 #: 20070847 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Could i be right on Warsaw? This was my Great grandfather and my grandfather has passed awway and my father is Dying of emphsema He is very ill and to smalll to remember		02/08/2007, 00:38:52 #: 20070848 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk catholic was the religion mty grandmother spoke german for sure		02/08/2007, 00:41:16 #: 20070849 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk i believe he was naturlized in 1908		02/08/2007, 00:43:22 #: 20070850 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William Most of our ancestors were leaving from small villages. Warszawa is and was a big city. Have you any of the documents that I asked about? Did you find your ancestors in the 1930 census? That is the census that would tell you Na-naturalized, Al-alien or Pa-first paper and what language was spoken by your ancestor. Warszawa's phone book does list a SEN'CZUK and STRACHOTA surname. Because of privacy law, no full address. www.ksiazka-telefoniczna.com		02/08/2007, 00:43:56 #: 20070851 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk You should try to locate his naturalization petition. It should contain information and especially his place of birth. If you think he might have come thru Ellis Island, register to www.ellisislandrecords.org (no money) and then use One Step www.stevemorse.org I do not have a paid subscription to Ancestry so can not help in locating the census. Any large library in your area should have a membership to Ancestry.		02/08/2007, 00:47:28 #: 20070852 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Theodore Sencuk is in the Bridgeport,Belmont ,ohio Censussays he was naturlized and she was from Essen Gemany		02/08/2007, 00:50:14 #: 20070853 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk I've tried that but nothing has checked out		02/08/2007, 00:54:24 #: 20070854 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Germany's phone book does list STRACHOTTA. www.dastelefonbuch.de Essen, Germany seems not far from Poland. Theodore's naturalization petition is holding the clue as where he was born in "old country". Does anyone in the family have his naturalization certificate? Not much info there but at least would tell you in which courthouse the petition was filed.		02/08/2007, 00:56:34 #: 20070855 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk un fortunatley no thats why i am trying so hard to find everything I can on Theodore Because your right he is the answer to this whole mystery.		02/08/2007, 01:01:33 #: 20070856 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Have you posted on www.ancestry.com/community http://genforum.com and any other board that you can find?He would have come thru a port under his Polish first name. What about the childrens baptismal certificates? I would think that Catholic church would have required a place of birth. Do you know where he is burried? Sometimes our ancestors would have an "old country" spelling of their surname put on the headstone. Any obituary?		02/08/2007, 01:04:58 #: 20070857 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William Theodore had to fill out a Draft Registration Form? Any luck in locating it? Sometimes there a place of birth.		02/08/2007, 01:07:27 #: 20070858 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk he is in a mosulim in west virginia but my aunt took over and was a very private woman it just Theodore sencuk		02/08/2007, 01:10:27 #: 20070859 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk no luck His brother George was in the 1917-1918 war and we had not luck finding a draft card for him either		02/08/2007, 01:12:56 #: 20070860 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Possible that the first letter of his surname was transcribed maybe as a L, T or F.		02/08/2007, 01:19:34 #: 20070861 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk such as Lennick?		02/08/2007, 01:45:13 #: 20070865 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William Is this Theodore's brother George in SSDI? http://ssdi.rootsweb.com If yes, his SS-5Form should have a place of birth and parents names.		02/08/2007, 01:46:02 #: 20070866 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk Did you find something under LENNICK? That is an American spelling.		02/08/2007, 01:47:59 #: 20070867 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk well what I have come with i found Lizzie Strada listed in the 1910 census in BridgePort,Pease Township Her father was A Vincent Strada and they had two boarders whos name were transcribed as Lennick on the family listingBut when i pulled up the fedy Lennick entry,someone had put in Parentheses Feton Senouck?		02/08/2007, 02:00:48 #: 20070868 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk William can you attach a scan of it here or send it to my private e-box? zlatalzbetka2 at hotmail.com Looking at handwritten name is much different or better than looking at a typed.		02/08/2007, 02:05:27 #: 20070869 post replyedit abuse? profile

	william63: Re: Sencuk, Senczuk yes i can but it will be a bit k		02/08/2007, 02:24:24 #: 20070871 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Zlatica : Re: Sencuk, Senczuk OK. I will be waiting. I am sure you know that I am in US.		02/08/2007, 02:26:56 #: 20070872 post replyedit abuse? profile

	SisaPista Szia A Sisak család engem is érdekel mivel van 1 teóriám a családdal kapcsolatban. A sisak szó ősi magyar szavunk legalábbis már a honfoglalás előtt ismertük.Egyébként a lengyelek a magyarból vették át sysak alakban és a jelentése ugyanaz volt.Én személy szerint Sisa vagyok , ami szintén tőzsgyökeres magyar származású család és 100% hogy a magyar Sisa személynévnek köze van a sisak magyar szóhoz. Üdv : Sisa Zoltán		12/12/2008, 19:26:35 #: 200812513 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Ssanyi: Sisák név eredete Üdvözletem! Ifj Sisák Sándor a becsületes nevem. Mostanában kezdtem el komolyabban foglalkozni a családnevünk eredetével, örömmel olvastam az Ön írását (sajnos csak egy részét tudom értelmezni mert valami miatt átíródott betűk cserélődtek fel stb.)Szeretnék errő bővebben értekezni (másokkal is) amennyiben másnak is van rá igánye.E-mail címem:ssanyi -a-t- citromail -d-o-t- hu		12/09/2009, 14:02:46 #: 200909435 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Sisak: Sisak eredete Egy fontos megjegyzés ! A Sisak és a Sisák vezetéknév nem ugyanaz. Nem csupán írásbeli eltérés van a kettő között. Kezdjük ott, hogy a Sisak név és sisak szó az orosz kutatók állítása szerint is tatár eredetű sisaki alakban használták. Alapja a sis szócska ami kinövést, duzzanatot jelent. A kunok szintén sisaknak hívták a sisakot. Nem kizárt, hogy velük érkezett hozzánk a sisak szó. Az 1400-as évektől kezdve elterjedt mind a fejfedő értelmében mint a sisak kovácsolásával foglakozó család megjelöléseként. A 15. század után vette át a magyar nyelvből az összes szláv nyelv így náluk csak jövevényszó és az ebből képzett családneveik mind magyar eredetűek. A lengyelben például szyszak. A Sisák konkrétan a magyar sisak szó átvételéből a cseh és ukrán nyelvben képződött és lett családnévvé, így a Sisák hosszú á val cseh vagy ukrán származásra utal, de alapja itt is a magyar sisak szó. Egyébként minden szó ami a szláv nyelvekben sis-el kezdődik török-tatár eredetű és az első átvevő nyel az orosz volt. Így a siska is egy tatár-szláv fejlemény és a kinövés, búb stb... az alapja. Örülök, ha segíthettem		10/02/2011, 17:06:16 #: 201102437 post replyedit abuse? profile

	Sisak: Re: 1 Nem tudom miert ilyen olvashatatlan formaban adja le az irasom. Lehet, hogy az ekezetek miatt, ezert ekezet most nem irok. Egy fontos megjegyzes ! Mar a forum megnevezese is helytelen, mivel ez a ket nev nem azonos és csak nagyon tavolrol rokon. A Sisak és a Sisák vezeteknev nem ugyanaz. Nem csupan irasbeli elteres van a kettö között. Kezdödik ott, hogy a sisak szo az orosz kutatok allitasa szerint is tatar (vagy baskir, csagataj stb..) eredetü és sisaki alakban hasznaltak. Alapja a sis szocska ami kinövest, duzzanatot jelent. A kunok szinten sisaknak hivtak a sisakot. Nem kizart, hogy velük erkezett hozzank a sisak szó. Az 1400-as evektöl kezdve elterjedt mind fejfedö ertelemben mind a sisak kovacsolasaval foglalkozo csalad megjelölesekent. A 15. szazad utan vette at a magyar nyelvböl az összes szlav nyelv. Igy naluk csak jöveveny szokent jelent meg es minden esetben magyar eredetü. A lengyelben peldaul Szyszak a horvatban Sisak stb... A Sisák konkretan a magyar sisak szo atveteleböl a cseh és ukran nyelvben kialakult valtozat es ebböl lett csaladnev, igy a Sisák hosszu a val cseh vagy ukran szarmazasra utal, de alapja itt is a magyar sisak szo. Egyebkent majdnem minden szo ami a szlav nyelvekben sis-el kezdödik török-tatar eredetre vall. A hasonlo siska szo es nev is tatar-orosz eredetü a tatar sis szo kinöves, pup ertelmeböl (ez a toboz jelentesü szo alapja is) Örülök, ha segithettem		10/02/2011, 21:38:18 #: 201102444 post replyedit abuse? profile

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