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Tremmel: Stroheber család

Stroheber nevűeket keresek!

26/10/2005, 00:17:40
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

My maiden name is Strohaber. I don't know when it was changed from Stroheber to Strohaber. My father's name is Francis, and his father and mother's names were Michael and Anna. Michael was born in Hungary in 1869, came to the United States in 1897, died in 1943. Anna was born in 1880 and died in 1929. Can you give me any information as to where they lived in Hungary? Thank you.

17/03/2008, 14:35:02
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Tremmel: Re: Stroheber család

Stroheber family lived in Jasd (Veszprem county)
Which village was born Michael Stroheber?

18/03/2008, 15:43:13
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

I found a Jozsef Stroheber who came from Jasd, Hungary to the U.S. in 1909. He was 36 years old in 1909 so he was born in 1873. Is there any way for you to find out if Jozsef and Michael were brothers? Can you look at birth records from Jasd?

02/04/2008, 01:42:37
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jasdi87: Re: Stroheber család

Üdv minden Strohéber-nek! Én a jásdi strohéber család egyik sarja vagyok! Strohéber Tamás. E-mail: jasdi87 -a-t- freemail -d-o-t- hu

04/04/2008, 18:10:35
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Tremmel: Re: Stroheber család

Üdv Tamás!

Nekem is vannak Jásdon rokonaim,őseim! Te mennyire ismered a családfádat? Foglalkoztál már vele?
Üdv!
Imi

04/04/2008, 18:22:10
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jasdi87: Re: Stroheber család

nem. eddig még egyáltalán nem foglalkoztam vele. Nagyszülőkig ismerem és kész. Viszont kezd érdekelni a dolog. elég valószinü hogy rokonok vagyunk. konkrétan azt sem tudom hogy honnan származik pl a nagyapám Strohéber József.

06/04/2008, 18:00:23
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Tremmel: Re: Stroheber család

Igen,valószinűleg távoli rokonok vagyunk! Van pár adatom a Stroheberekről. Úgy tudom,az első Stroheber Balinkáról került Jásdra. 1835-ben Stroheber Pál feleségül vette Major Katalint,aki egyik ősöm testvére. Sok gyermekük született.

06/04/2008, 18:23:42
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HELEN: Re: Stroheber család

Stroheberek vannak Jasdon. Mit szeretnel tudni?

06/03/2009, 20:50:22
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

15/02/2010, 11:59:56
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Szijjarto!
Melyik Stroheberek erdekelnek Jasdon?
Helen

15/02/2010, 22:39:18
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen,

Igaziból nem tudom pontosan:)) Rokonaimat keresem, a nevüket nem tudom.
Én az 1906-ban Csatkán született Strohéber Magdolna unokája vagyok. Ükapám Strohéber Jakab volt. Ő 1848-ban született Jásdon. Az ő édesapja Strohéber Pál volt, aki Balinkáról jött Jásdra.
Jó lenne olyan Strohéber rokon is, aki esetleg tud valamit a családfájáról, és így esetleg ki tudnánk egészíteni az ismeretünket a családunkat illetően.
Tehát engem a most élők is érdekelnek, de az ő őseik is.

Ha tudsz valamiben segíteni, előre is nagyon köszönöm.

Szilvia

17/02/2010, 11:23:05
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jasdi87: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Szilvia!
Ez érdekes erről eddig nem tudtam! Akkor eddig Balinkára vezetnek vissza a szálak. Esetleg azt meg tudnád mondani hogy mivel foglalkoztak?

Tamás

19/02/2010, 17:41:01
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Tamás!

Igen, eddig balinkáig sikerült eljutnom, ott kéne továbbkutatni.
Téged kik érdekelnek pontosan?
Meddig tudod visszavezetni a családodat? Esetleg a nevüket meg tudnád adni? Meg hogy hol éltek?

Szilvia

26/02/2010, 21:23:20
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen!

Te is Strohéber leszármazott vagy?

Szilvia

27/02/2010, 17:12:49
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

I recently found the following information.

Paul Stroheber and Katalin Major had these children:
Josef b. 06 March 1837
Ignatz b. 06 February 1839
Orzse b. 02 September 1841
Janos b. 30 September 1844
Magdolna b. 21 August 1846
Jakob b. 21 July 1848
Janos b. 24 October 1850
Elisabetha b. 16 May 1852
Michael b. 28 September 1855

Ignatz married Erzsebet Haaz and had these children:
Anna b. 10 February 1866
Erzsebet b. 16 November 1867
Mihaly b. 27 September 1869
Jozsef b. 04 January 1872
Janos b. 04 January 1877

Mihaly married Anna Krisztinkovic and had these children:
Catherine b.10 November 1903
Michael b. 18 May 1905
Margaret 25 May 1907
Anna b. 1909 d. 1910
Elizabeth b. 08 April 1911
Frank b. 07 October 1916
William b. 03 August 1919

Frank married Ida and had these children:
Fran
Michael
Lisa
Rita
Jim

I am Rita!

08/06/2010, 15:20:38
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
I am going to Jasd in September (2010). Is there anything in particular you think I could do for you while I am there? There is a Stroheber in my family tree with whom I am on good terms.
Nice to be in touch with you.
Helen

28/08/2010, 23:20:57
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

Helen,
Thank you so much for your kind offer. Would it be possible to take some pictures of Jasd for me, and post them on this site?
Have a wonderful time in Hungary!
Rita

31/08/2010, 15:15:49
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JanetB: Re: Stroheber család

My husband's great-grandfather was William Stroheber, born in Hungary Jul 1890. We think he might be the William Stroheber who immigrated to Canada via the United States in 1909 (aged 18). Does anyone know if he is a descendant of Paul Stroheber, or if not, who his ancestors were?

12/09/2010, 23:26:32
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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Janet!
William emigrated from Csatka, Hungary.
His parents:
Stroheber Jakab (born in Jasd, 21 July 1848 - died in Csatka, 4 March 1896, pneumonia) He was smith.
Panák Anna (born in Bakonyszentkiraly, 12 May 1853- died unknown)

Anna's second husband: Mrázik Pál

Stroheber Jakab's parents: Stroheber Pál (born in Balinka,1810. - died in Jasd 3 April 1868) and
Major Katalin (born in Jasd, 1815. - died in Jasd, 24 February 1871)
Marriage in Jasd, 3 February 1835. Witnesses: Major György and Harpauer Mátyás

Best regards,
Imi

13/09/2010, 07:14:28
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Janet,

I'm a descendant of Paul et Jakob Stroheber too.
If you're interessed in this, please give me your e-mail address for changing of information.
My e-mail address: szi_szilvia -a-t- freemail.hu -d-o-t-

Best regards,
Szilvia

13/09/2010, 11:06:03
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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Hello "runnerrita",

I'm a descendant of Jakob Stroheber.
If you interested in this, please give me your e-mail address.
My e-mail address: szi_szilvia -a-t- freemail.hu -d-o-t-

Best regards,
Szilvia

13/09/2010, 12:07:54
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
I found on ellisisland.org your grandfather Michael STROHEBER, arriving 26 Feb 1897.

On the 1920 US census I found MIKE STRABE, 50 yrs old, having arrived in US in 1896, thus he was b. about 1870. His wife is shown as Annie, 38 yrs, thus b. about 1882. Their children are shown as Katherine 16 yrs, Michael 14 yrsMargaret 12 yrs, Elizabeth 9 yrs, Mary 6 yrs, Frank 3 9/12 yrs, William 3/12 yrs. This family lived in Alpha, New jersey where all the children were born. Note that Anna b. 1909, died 1910 does not appear so she must have died before the census was taken.

On the 1930 US census I found MICHAEL STROHEBER,arriving US 1900 and living in Alpha, New Jersey. He was b.in Hungary. His age is shown as 49 yrs, making him b. in 1881, but this could be an error on the census or in my reading of it! In any case, the children are shown as Michael 24 yrs, Margaret 22 yrs, Elizabeth 19 yrs,Francis 13 yrs, William 11 yrs. There is also shown a grandaughter Joan Rugel 1 6/12 yrs who was born in Pennsylvanis as was her father. Her mother was born in New Jersey and most likely was either Margaret or Elizabeth? I think this is your grandfather Michael and his family. Note that Annie, Michael's wife, is not listed....perhaps she had died by 1930?

The other thing I found, which you also did, was that a Stroheber Jozsef arrived in the US on 15 Mar 1909. He was 36 yrs old, thus born about 1873, had a wife in Jasd, Stroheber Jozsefne, and was going to a brother Mihaly Stroheber in Alpha. At least I think it is Alpha.

I think this Jozsef may have been a brother to your grandfather, Michael. From the birth records in the Tes Civil register where the Jasd records were being kept at that time, Jozsef`s wife was Harminger Maria and in this register starting 1907 in Tes, they had the following children: Maria was born on 18 Feb 1907 and appears to have died but I don`t have that data, a boy was born dead on 16 Dec 1908, a girl was born dead on 3 Jan 1913, Jozsef was born 29 Jan 1914 and Janos was born 14 July 1915. Notice that there is a space of about 4 yrs between 1908 and 1912 . Do you know anything about this Jozsef Stroheber who immigrated 1909? He may have gone to the US in 1909 and returned to Hungary in 1912. What do you think? It would be great to know. In the meantime I will make some more inquiries.

As for your question about having relatives in Jasd.....yes, you do!! I will let you know what I find.

I have run out of time.
Looking forward to hearing from you again. So sorry I have been so tardy.
Helen

21/11/2010, 20:13:58
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Re William Stroheber: On his gravestone in Holy Trinity Roman Catholic Cemetery in Viscount, Saskatchewan, Canada is written 1890 - 1969, Father.
There are also Elizabeth Stroheber, 1885 - 1933, Mother, and,
James Stroheber 15 Nov 1913 - 19 Feb 1995.

Hope this adds to the data about the Stroheber family.

Helen

21/11/2010, 21:47:02
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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen!
Ez a Stroheber Vilmos Csatkáról vándorolt ki! Vajon lehetnek még leszármazottak Kanadában?
Üdv Imi

21/11/2010, 22:44:04
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

22/11/2010, 03:02:04
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Imi,
Igen Vilmosnak vannak Kanadaban leszarmazatoi. Majd megirom, jo lesz? Most dolgom van! (Nem lehet mindig szorakozni)
Helen

22/11/2010, 03:07:17
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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Rendben!

22/11/2010, 08:21:02
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szilvia,
Unokatestveremnek a Stroheberek rokonok. Jasdon laknak. Mar sok adatom van roluk. Legy szives irni. Orulok minden levelnek. hventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca
Helen

23/11/2010, 23:24:01
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Janet,
Did your husband's great grandfather, William (Vilmos in Hungarian)and his wife Lizzie (Elizabeth) have the following children:
Ann, husband Hass
Mary, husband Kiss
Jim (James) Stroheber (15 Nov 1913 - 19 Feb 1995)
Bill (William), wife Louisa
Irene Margaret, died2007, husband, Frank Smith, died 2007. Had a son, Melvin
Margaret Mary, died 27 Jan 2006, husband Baird Gordon

Looking forward to hearing from you, as are the Strohebers living in Jasd and other places in Hungary. I think all of you are related.
Regards, Helen

24/11/2010, 21:17:12
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helen

Szia Imi,
Most vettem eszre hogy aban a temetoben Kanadaban ahol van Stroheber Vilmos, vannak:

"Ponak ..Itt nyukszik Ponak Gezane szuletet Kuti Veronika
szuletet 1901...Aug 27 meghalt 1951 April 1826 nyugodjek bekebe....Husband and son" (Igy)

"Ponak Geza 1899-1970...Mother" (Igy)

Ezek egy mas utan vannak irva, es meg van:

"Ponak Gizela, April 24,1922- Mar 12, 1935...Brother"

Esetleg ezek rokonsagban vannak Stroheber Vilmos val? Vagy pedig ezek is Csatkarol / Bakonyszentkiralyrol vandoroltak ki?
Voltak Ponakok Csatkan?
Helen

24/11/2010, 22:21:52
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Imi: Ponak

Szia Helen!

Nagy valószinűséggel rokonok lehettek!
Stroheber Vilmos anyját Ponák Annának hívták.
Ponák Géza talán az unokatestvére lehetett.
Nem voltak Csatkán ilyen nevűek, de valahol a környéken éltek, valószínűleg Bakonyszentkirályon.

Szép napot! Imi

25/11/2010, 06:47:23
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Janet,
William and Elizabeth seem to have had two sons: James /Jim and Bill.

Which one was the grandfather of your husband?

What is your husband's father's name? I appreciate that if he is Living you might not want to disclose his name. I suppose that the grandchild of William could be a granddaughter; in that case what is her name? If she is not living, that is. My E address is hventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca if you prefer to contact me that route.

Isn't this hobby challenging? I can hardly wait to tell my cousin in Jasd that I have IMPORTANT info about Strohebers in Canada!
Helen

25/11/2010, 20:49:23
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
I just came across the obituary for your father Francis who died in Florida on 30 Oct 2010. He must have been a very conscientous educator. I am sorry for your loss. May he rest in peace.
Sincerely, Helen

27/11/2010, 00:59:55
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

Helen,

I have the immigration document for my grandfather Michael.

In the 1920 census, Frank aged 3 9/12 is my father.
Anna, born 1909 and died in 1910 from influenza.

In the 1930 census, Francis, aged 13 years is my father.
Joan Riegel's mother was Margaret.

Michael's wife Anna died 15 Dec 1929 from cancer.

I believe Jozsef was Michael's brother.

Thank you for the note about my Dad. Yes, he was a wonderful educator, husband, and father. We deeply miss him.

I included a 1900 census document for Michael. He is on line 8.

Were you able to get any pictures of Jasd?

Rita

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27/11/2010, 02:08:07
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hi Rita,

Many, many thanks for the data. I love it. As soon as I can get together a Stroheber Family Tree I will send it to whoever is interested. No living persons will be shown on it, of course.

Here are a couple of photos taken in Jasd at the fall grape festival. Among the folk dancers is a cousin of mine...the tallest girl. On the left. She is a real doll. She visited us in Canada last year. Another of the girls is a relative by marriage. Another darling.

You know by now that you have a small tribe of Canadian Strohebers related to you, don't you? And at least three tribes in Hungary, not counting those in Jasd. I am actually amazed at how many people are interested in the Strohebers since Imi's letter to Radix in about 2005(not sure, but I know it was a long time ago ).

Have to go have some lunch. Have a great day.
Helen
Not sure if I can send the photos. If I can't please let me know.

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27/11/2010, 20:41:24
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
Just looking at Michael Stroheber's 1900 census report. It gives his DOB as 1874 which is a bit off 1869 but this kind of discrepancy does exist. He was still single at the age of 26 which was getting on a bit for that time. However when he made up his mind he "didn't fool around" as he had a child by November of 1903 and kept on going. I don't suppose you have Mihaly and Anna's date and place of marriage?

Here is a photo of the church in Jasd, 2010.

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27/11/2010, 21:30:11
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

That is I in front of the church.
Helen

27/11/2010, 21:33:59
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

Hi Helen,

Thank you so much for the pictures! I just love them! Is that you in front of the church?

Yes, thanks to all the info on this site, I am finding out about my relatives.

Michael and Anna married in January 1903. I believe they married in Alpha, N.J. I am working on getting the marriage certificate, and when I do, I will post it.

Attached, you will find a picture of Michael and Anna on their wedding day. Enjoy!

Rita

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27/11/2010, 22:07:51
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Kedves Szilvia,
Stroheber Pal & Major Katalinnak voltak azok a gyerekek akiket Rita mar elobb feltett.

Az otodik volt
Stroheber Jakab (21 jul 1848,Jasd - 4 mar 1896, Csatka)
felesege volt Ponak Anna ( 12 maius 1853, Bakonyszentkiraly - ismeretlen datum, hely)

Gyerekeik csak kettorol tudok:
1. Karoly ( 1873, Akli - ismeretlen datum, hely)
felesege volt Redl (Redli)Maria.
Ez a Karoly neked ded nagyapad, igaz? Nekik voltak 6 gyermekuk, Magdolna sz. 1906 korul, kosztuk.

2. Vilmos (William) (julius 1890, Csatka -1969,Saskatchewan megye, Kanada)
felesege Erzsebet (Lizzinek hivtak Kanadaban).

Lehet hogy voltak tobb gyerekek de azokrol meg nem tudok.

Nagyapad Karoly es Vilmos, testverek voltak. Vilmos leszarmazatoi Kanadaban laknak; Janet B ferjinek az uknagyapja volt Vilmos.

Legalab is igy gondolom. Nagyon kerek mindenkit hogy irjanak ha tevedeseket talalnak.
Amikor lesz tobb idom, irok tobbet!

Hol laksz, Szilvia? Ismered Jasd-ot?
Helen

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28/11/2010, 18:39:07
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
I wrote to Szilvia about Jakab one of the children of Pal Stroheber. She is a gt grandaughter of Jakab and granddau. of Magdolna No. 3414 on the document which shows 3 generations of his descendants. I am hoping she submits data about more of her immediate family. I am also hoping you might want to share data about William's (Vilmos') No. 3428 descendants.

I wrote in Hungarian to describe the data on the document and asked for anyone who spots errors / omissions to
contact me via Radix.

I just got home from visiting my mother in the nursing home. She is well enough but has Alzheimer's. She will be 90 yrs on Dec 1st! I hate to see her the way she is now.

Hope you are enjoying the weekend
Helen

28/11/2010, 20:24:32
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runnerrita: Re: Stroheber család

Helen,

I am not a direct descendant of Jakob, but of Ignatz, his older brother. So, I cannot give any data about Vilmos' (3428) line.

I do collect documents on any Stroheber I can find though.

Attached, you will find Vilmos' immigration document from 1906.

Happy 90th birthday to your Mom.

Rita

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29/11/2010, 20:56:32
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helen

Stroheber Krisztinarol tudd valaki? Bevandorolt USAban 20 apr 1899, 14eves koraban, Akli tul. Dehat 1885 korul szulethetet.
Ugyan akor utaztak Regenye Mihaly 30 eves es Regenye Maria 26 eves.
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Szilvia,
Evvel kuldom Stroheber Jakabnak a
leszarmazataikat ammenyire tudom.
Csak ket fiurul tudok. Nem e tudna
valaki hogy voltak-e tobb gyerekek?
Mar irtad hogy Magdolnanak(szm 3414)
vagy unokaja.
Csak 3 generaciot mutatok;az eloket
nem.A Vilmos leszarmazatai Kanadaban
laknak.
Ha valaki eszre vesz hibakat,vagy
ha van tobb infoja,legyetek szives
szolni nekem.
l.ni nekem
ek szives szolni.

Jakab szulei voltak Stroheber Pal
es Major Katalin.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Rita and Janet B's husband are third cousins once removed

Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Most találtam meg Stroheber Vilmos egyik lányának adatait:

Neve: Annie Katie Stroheber
Született: 1918.10.18. Plunkett, Saskatchewan
Szülei: William Strobeber és Lizzie Bartok (magyar származású név)
Házastársa: Frederick James Hass
Meghalt: 1986.06.10. Richmond, British Columbia, Canada

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Helenhventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
Do you have any info about Joan Riegel who was Margaret's daughter?

By now you must know about your Canadian cousins. If not, contact Janet B. on Radix. She is very exact in her info.

As for your Hungarian cousins... there are several, as you can see on Radix.

kbriggs@ bellsouth.net is one of your American cousins.

Love to hear from you. Keep in touch; we are not blood relatives but the mother of a third cousin of mine in Jasd, Hungary, was a Stroheber.

For those who are not aware of it, Jasd, Balinka, Ajka and Csatka are close to each other in Veszprem county,Hungary.

Regards,
Helen

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JanetB: Saskatchewan Strohebers - descendants of William Stroheber (1890-1963)

Here is what I know about William Stroheber, his descendants and his siblings. This is taken primarily from family records, with some information from immigration and census records.

Descendants of William Stroheber (1890-1963)

William Stroheber
Born: 5 Jul 1890, Csatka, Komárom-Esztergom, Hungary
Immigrated to USA: 5 Jun 1906 on the Kroonland, sailing from Antwerp
Immigrated to Canada: 2 Apr 1909 from USA
Married: Elizabeth Bartok, 14 Jan 1914 in Saskatchewan, Canada
Died: 18 Sep 1963 in Saskatchewan, Canada
Buried: Holy Trinity Cemetery, near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Occupation: Farmer and dance-band musician (violin)

Elizabeth Bartok
Father: Albert Bartok, born 10 Aug 1871, Hungary
Mother: Anna Grega, born 26 Jul 1874, Slovenia
Born: 19 Mar 1895, Saskatchewan, Canada
Died: 7 Jul 1933 in Saskatchewan, Canada
Buried: Holy Trinity Cemetery, near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada

Children of William and Elizabeth (Bartok) Stroheber

1) James Jerry (Jim) Stroheber
Born: 11 Nov 1914 near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Married: Florence Hellene (Flossie) Habermehl, 3 Feb 1937, Plunkett, Saskatchwan, Canada
Died: 19 Feb 1995, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Buried: Holy Trinity Cemetery, near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Occupation: Farmer and dance-band pianist

Florence Hellene (Flossie) Habermehl
Father: Levi Habermehl, born 8 Dec 1885, Baden, Ontario, Canada
Mother: Martha Herner, born 27 Mar 1890, Cullom, Livingston County, Illinois, USA
Born: 31 Oct 1916
Died: 7 Dec 2004, Regina, Saskatchewan, Canada
Buried: Watrous Cemetery, Watrous, Saskatchewan, Canada

2 of their 3 children have died:
Vernon James (Vern) Stroheber (1940 – 2001), buried in Watrous
Judith Irene (Judy) Stroheber (1947 – 1967), buried in Watrous

Also buried in Watrous is Vern’s first wife, Myrna Bjorndahl (1945 – 1967)

2) Mary Stroheber
Born: 14 Jan 1916 near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Married: Geza Kiss.

Geza Kiss
Died: Aug 1980

3) Ann (Annie) Stroheber
Born: 18 Oct 1918 near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Married: Frederick James Hass
Died: 6 Oct 1986, Richmond, BC, Canada

4) Irene M. Stroheber
Born: 18 Apr 1920 near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Married: Frank Smith
Died: 2007

Frank Smith
Died: 26 Dec 2006

5) Margaret Stroheber
Born: 14 May 1922 near Plunkett, Saskatchewan, Canada
Married: Baird Gordon

6) William (Bill) Stroheber
Married: Louisa Binding
Both still living

Known Siblings of William Stroheber (1890-1963)

Karoly Stroheber, born 1873

Mrs. D. Fodor, living in Passaic, New Jersey, USA in 1906
(Her husband may be the Dezsö Fodor listed in the 1900 US census, born Jan 1878, living as a boarder in Passaic, New Jersey, in the same household as another boarder, Joseph Fodor. Dezsö Fodor immigrated to the US in Dec 1898, giving his age as 28, indicating that he was going to live with his brother in Passaic. His previous residence is listed as "Cseaztnek" (presumably Csesznek, Veszprem, Hungary). There does not appear to be a record for him in Passaic in the 1910 census.)

Mrs. Joe Gaspar, living in Melville, Saskatchewan, Canada in 1909
(I could not find a record for Joe Gaspar in Saskatchewan in the 1911 census.)

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JanetB: Re: Ponak

It seems that the Geza Ponak who died in Saskatchewan in 1970 was likely a relative of William Stroheber. I found the following in a book about families in the Plunkett area in Saskatchewan:

'Geza Ponak, his wife Veronica and children Isabelle and Steve, emigrated from Hungary and arrived in Plunkett in June of 1928. For a short time after their arrival, the family resided at the William Stroheber farm.'

The daughter Isabelle died in the spring of 1935 - this must be the Gizela whose gravestone says "April 24, 1922-Mar 12, 1935". I'm not sure why the name is different. Maybe she used Isabelle as a "Canadian" name, or maybe whoever wrote the entry for the book did not remember her name correctly.

Veronica died in the spring of 1951. Geza died in 1970 at the age of 71. The son, Stephen, was still living in 1982, when the book was published.

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JanetB

Thanks to everyone who has posted information on this site. It was exciting to find two more generations for my husband's genealogy. My husband is the grandson of James Jerry Stroheber (son of William Stroheber) of Saskatchewan, Canada.

I have been very focussed on other branches of the family tree, so it took a while to put together information on our branch. My mother-in-law dug out a book of families in the Plunkett area that her uncle had written some articles for, which gave me more information than I already had. I have incorporated it all in the information I just posted. I hope this is of interest to others - particularly Szilvia, who is my mother-in-law's second cousin, and Rita, who is her third cousin, and Helen, who has been so helpful in tying us all together.

Happy New Year, everyone.

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Imi: Stroheber

Dear JanetB,
Thank you for the much data!

William Stroheber's parents:
Jakab Stroheber (Jasd, 21.07.1848. - Csatka, 04.03.1896.)
Anna Ponak (Bakonyszentkiraly, 12.05.1853. - ?)

Jakab Stroheber's parents:
Pal Stroheber (Balinka, 1810. - Jasd, 03.04.1868.)
Katalin Major (Jasd, 1815. - Jasd, 24.02.1871.)
Marriage: 03.02.1835. Witnesses: Gyorgy Major and Matyas Harpauer

Happy New Year!

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Helen: Re: Ponak

The mother of William / Vilmos Stroheber was Anna Ponak. Anna seems to have been born in Bakonyszentkiraly which is in the same general area as Csatka, Jasd, Akli, etc.

Perhaps Geza Ponak is a nephew of Anna Ponak and thus a cousin to William / Vilmos? They are only about 9 years apart in age.

Thank you for the tremendous amount of data you have shared with us, Janet.

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Helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Rita,
You have posted that you are a descendant of Michael Stroheber, a son of Ignatz Stroheber and Erzsebet Haaz.

Another of Ignatz and Erzsebet's children was Erzsebet, b. Oct 16, 1867, Jasd, in House 3. Godparents were Hujber Janos, foldmuves ( agricultural worker) and Hujber Margit.

Erzsbet married Jozsef Hersics ( b.abt. 1851, Tes - 3 Mar 1903, Tes); I have not found the record of their marriage yet.

Their children were:

Sandor Hersics b.25 Jan 1894, probably born in Tes. He married Maria Pollack (b. 13 Sep 1894, Jasd) on 30 Apr 1919.

Miklos Hersics b.6 Dec 1896, Tes?. He married Lujza Mazak (b.8 May 1899, Tes?)on 23 Oct 1919.

Agnes Hersics b. 22 Apr 1900, Tes?. No other info.

Jozsef Hersica, b. Jun 1903 Tes?-d. 3 Jul 1902 at 15 days, Tes? of vele szuletett gyengeseg (weakness at birth). ( I will check Tes records for exact date of birth)

Following death of her first husband,Jozsef Hersics, Erzsebet Stroheber married Andras Raiber (b. 18 Aug 1859) on 5 Nov 1911.

The above data is from the Jasd RC church records and the Tes Civil records.
Tes? means that while the event is recorded in the Tes Civil records, the actual event may have taken place in Jasd e.g. the marriage of Sandor Hersics and Maria Pollak may have occurred in Jasd as that is where Maria is shown as living at the time, but the marriage is recorded in the Tes Civil records for those years.

I apologize for not having complete information on this family yet. I will try to access more.
In the meantime I would like to ask everyone to let me know about errors, discrepancies.
Jo napot!
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Descendants of Mihaly Stroheber and Anna Krisztinkovics,

I notice that Mihaly was b. 1869 in Jasd and arrived Ellis Island in 1897.

My great grand uncle, Imre Kottyan (James Katkin in the US)was b. 1876 in Jasd and arrived Ellis Island in 1894.Jasd was not a large village; Mihaly and Imre (James Katkin) must have known each other. Does anybody know whether they ever saw each other in the US?

Also does anyone know of anyone from Jasd arriving to the US before 1894?
Heken
(I love this hobby!!)

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Stroheber researchers!
In my notes of gravestones of only a part of the Jasd cemetery, I found the following:
A jasdi temetonek egyik reszeben talaltam:

Stroheber Jozsef 1947 - 1988
Major Jozsefne Stroheber Erzsebet 1927 - 27 Dec 2007

Stroheber Jozsef 1918 - 1986
neje (wife) sz. Princ Maria 1926 - no DOD, nincs halali ev

Does anyone know anything about the above Strohebers? Who their parents, grandparents were?
Tudd valaki valamit a fenti Stroheberekrol? Kik voltak szuleik, nagyszuleik?

Also, Rita, the following shows that the Krisztinkovics name was, perhaps still is, found in Jasd. Have not checked yet!
Tudd valaki a Krisztinkovicsokrol? Honan valok?

Krisztinkovics Ilona 1924 - 2005
Strommer Gyula 1908 - 1992

Strommer Gyulane sz. Krisztinkovics Maria 1909 - 1991

I would be happy to get any information. Thank you in advance.
Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen,

A Krisztinkovicsok Tésen laktak. Először egy 1858-as iraton találkoztam Krisztinkovics József uradalmi intéző nevével. Ha jól tudom a család egyik fele Csernyére, a másik fele Csatkára kerültek. A csatkaiakról tudok infókat küldeni.

Sok Krisztinkovics élt a Fejér megyei Szolgaegyházán is.

Küldök két képet is.

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Krisztinkovics László Csatkán volt asztalosmester, több rokonomnak volt a keresztapja.
Egy balesetben halt meg, gerendákat szállított Bakonysárkányba amikor feldőlt a lovaskocsival és rádőlt a rakomány.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Imi,
Mondtam Ritanak hogy esetleg tudsz valamit a Krisztinkovichokrol! Koszonjuk a faradsagodat.
Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Krisztinkovich László feleségét Szabó Teréziának hívták (1857-1938) Szabó Terézia szülei Szabó János és Janászek Katalin voltak.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Imi,
A Krisztinkovich -Szabo adatot a Csatkai anyakonyvben talaltad?

En a suri anyakonyvben veletlenul talaltam:
Janos, sz. 27 mar 1860, szulei Szabo Janos, Janaszek Katalin. Csatka haz szam 8ban laktak. Ez a Janos lehethet Terezia testvere?

Erdekel kik voltak a szulei Janaszek Katalinak. Nem lesz konnyu!
Szep napot, Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen,

Igen, a csatkai polgári anyakönyvből vannak az adatok!
Tudok még egy lányukról Szabó Jánosnak és Janászek Katalinnak:
Szabó Károlyné született Szabó Anna (1862-1934)
Ők ükapámék szomszédjai voltak.

Szabó János és Janászek Katalin házassági bejegyzése biztosan bennevan a súri vagy a csatkai anyakönyvben.

Szép napot, Imi

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Oliver: Oliver in Hungary

Hi Janos,

My Name is Ian Richard Oliver, born Australia 10 March 1966.
My Parents:
William Henry Oliver born 5 November 1920
Violet Joyce Oliver born 6 January 1927

I would like to be able to provide sufficient Genealogical connection to apply for Naturalization in Hungary.

Can anyone assist?

Regards,
Ian
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

The death record of Pal Stroheber is in the Jasd RC records. He died on 3 Apr 1868 in Jasd, at House number 64. His wife was Katalin Major. He was 58 years old, thus born about 1810. He died of "inlaz", tendon / sinew fever.
Not sure what we would call it today.
Let me know if anyone would like other sources / references.
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Hello Stroheber descendants,

Krisztinkovics Anna, Rita's grandmother, was born 20 July 1880. Her parents were Krisztinkovics Lajos and Rotter Julianna. Lajos was an "asztalos", a joiner. They lived at Csernye, now Bakonycsernye, House no. 178, Hungary. The godparents were Gaspar Ferencz and Czirbek Erzse.

The above data is from Sur Roman Catholic records, film no. 699672.

I do not think Roman Catholic records were maintained in Csernye and I think that is why the birth registration was done in the Sur Catholic church.

I wonder if Michael Stroheber and Anna knew each other in Hungary, or if they met for the first time in the US. Does anyone know?
Helen

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szijarto: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen!

Ne haragudj, hogy sokáig nem jelentkeztem, és nem válaszoltam Neked.
El tudnád küldeni újra az e-mail címedet nekem?

Előre is köszönöm!!!!

Szilvia

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Szilvia,
Cimem....hventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca

Ne izgulj hogy nem tudsz mindig valaszolni. En tudom milyen az elet! Azert akar mikor irsz, orulok.
Szia, Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Stroheber rokonok,

Another Stroheber - related record:

The marriage on 27 Jan 1934 of Strommer Gyula, foldmuves (agricultural worker), R.C., born Jasd, 23 May 1908, living in Jasd, parents Strommer Gyula and Princz Anna, and,
Krisztinkovics Maria, R.C., born Bakonycsernye, 2 Aug 1909, living in Jasd, parents Krisztinkovics Aludar and Lajko Anna.
Witnesses were Lajko Jozsef, Jasd and Lajko Ferenc, Bakonycsernye.

Found in Tes Civil Marriages, film no. 2420182 of Church of Latter Day Saints, Utah, USA.

This Krisztinkovics Maria may be related to Rita's grandmother. Does anyone know? Esetleg ez a Maria rokon Ritanak a nagyanyanak, Krisztinkovics Annanak. Tudja valaki?

Meg egy kerdes....Aludar nemet nev vagy magyar?
Koszonom,
Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen,

Az Aladár név tipikus magyar keresztnév, szerintem sehol máshol nem használják.

Imi

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

A Szilvia gyerekei harmadik unokatestverek Janet B ferjevel.

The children of Szilvia are third cousins to Janet B's husband.

Does anyone know if Jakab Stroheber and Anna Ponak had other children besides Karoly b. abt. 1873 in Akli and Vilmos / William b.July 1890 in Csatka ?

Tudja valaki hogy Stroheber Jakab es Ponak Anna-nak voltak -e tobb gyerekeik mint Karoly sz.1873 korul, Akli, es Vilmos / William sz. julius 1890, Csatkan ?

Happy to get more data.
Orulok amikor kapok leveleket.
Helen

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JanetB: Re: Stroheber család

I know that Jakon Stroheber and Anna Panak had at least 2 daughters, but I do not know their first names. They were:

Mrs. D. Fodor, living in Passaic, New Jersey, USA in 1906

Mrs. Joe Gaspar, living in Melville, Saskatchewan, Canada in 1909

See further information on their husbands, at the end of the message I posted Jan 1 2011.

I suspect that both sisters were married after emigrating to North America. Does anyone have information on their birth or emigration? Thanks

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helen: Re: Saskatchewan Strohebers - descendants of William Stroheber (1890-1963)

Hello Janet,
You have written that you found no Joseph Gaspar on the 1911 Canadian Census, so I did not even bother to look for him there.

However one day I did glance at the 1916 Canadian Census of Manitoba, Saskatchewan and Alberta:

There are shown Joseph,39 yrs and Julia, 29 yrs, Gaspar living at 34,24,2 Wolverine, Humboldt district 17, Saskatchewan. Both Joseph and Julia were born in Hungary and both immigrated to Canada in 1907.

And there are 7 children shown. I will post their names and dates of birth another time. In a bit of a rush today.

What I noticed is that the oldest child, Annie was b. 1901 in the US. The next child Mary was b. 1903 IN HUNGARY. The other 5 children were all born in Saskatchewan.

Lots of things to speculate about which I have not even started to follow up:
1. It seems that Joseph and Julia were either married when they immigrated to the US or were married there and had Annie there in 1901.

2. Since Mary was born in Hungary, at least Julia was there at that time. I wonder where ?

3.The third child, John was born in Saskatchewan in 1908, so Julia was there at that time. If Julia and Joseph immigrated to Canada in 1907, that would fit in.

It would be great to find out the birthplaces of Julia and Joseph. Does anyone know if there was a Julia Stroheber and where she was born and did she marry a Joseph Gaspar?

All the above is assuming that this is the Joseph Gaspar who married Julia who MAY have been a Stroheber.

Since I have not verified the above, I am hoping that someone has additional info , one way or the other.

Thank you for your patience!

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JanetB: Re: Saskatchewan Strohebers - descendants of William Stroheber (1890-1963)

Helen - here is some additional information, which verifies your hunch that the Joseph Gaspar in the 1916 census was the husband of a Stroheber (although I believe that her name was Maria Stroheber - see below).

I checked the 1911 census again and found a Joseph Jasper, who I am pretty sure is the Joseph Gaspar who married a Stroheber. There is conflicting info between the 1911 and 1916 censuses, and some information in the 1916 census that is difficult to read (for example, an age corrected to 10 that looks like 15).

Then I looked back at the 1906 census and found Joseph Caspar, who I think is also the same person, since he was living very close to Melville, which is where Jakob and Anna Stroheber's daughter was living in 1909.

I also found the Saskatchewan birth registration of Joseph's second daughter, Anna, which gives her mother's name as Maria Stoheber [sic]. This is the evidence that ties it all together, as the birth month and year match the info in the 1911 census.

I believe that the name of this Stroheber daughter was Maria (as given in her daughter's birth registration), not Julia, although she may have switched to using Julia by 1916. It is possible that the name in the 1916 census was incorrect - it is clearly Julia in the handwritten census record, but this could have been incorrectly transcribed from a draft census form. Alternatively, Maria started using the name Julia for some reason, or she died and her husband remarried. I have been unable to find the birth registrations of any children younger than Anna (for some reason, online registrations for 1908 begin in March, and registrations for 1910 and later are not yet available online), so I cannot check the mother's name in any of these. Offline resources (e.g., parish register) might provide the answer.

There is conflicting information on ages and dates of immigration in this family, which made me think at first that Joseph's first wife had died and he remarried to Maria Stroheber between the births of his first 2 children, but this does not fit the evidence. The simplest explanation is that Maria did not give her age accurately in the censuses - possibly due to a language barrier, or maybe because she was very young (possibly as young as 14) when she married.

At any rate, this is what I can piece together from all the evidence, assuming that some of the census information is incorrect:

The family consisted of:
- Joseph Gaspar, born in Hungary Mar 1876, 1877 or 1878
- Maria Stroheber, born in Hungary about 1879 or Apr 1887 (or somewhere in between)
- Mary Gaspar, born in Hungary or USA Sep 1902
- Anna (Annie) Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan (possibly in Yorkton, or just registered in the Yorkton district) 4 Sep 1906
- John Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan Feb 1908
- Joseph Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan Oct 1910
- Frank Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan about 1911
- Maggie Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan about 1913
- Alex (?) Gaspar, born in Saskatchewan about 1916

I believe that they immigrated to Canada in 1904 (as some of the census records indicate). Other census records give the year as 1907, which does not make sense if Anna was born in Saskatchwan in 1906.

From at least 1906 to 1909, they lived near Melville, Saskatchewan (section 34, township 22, range 6W2), and in 1910 they moved to the Guernsey area (section 20, township 34, range 24W2), still in Saskatchewan. (Some of this information came from a district history book.)

I was unable to find any cemetery records online for this family - maybe I did not try enough variations on spellings of the name.

If anyone can find a birth record for Maria Stroheber, we'll be a bit closer to the truth. Thanks

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

I found only three marriages (hazassagok) of Strohebers in the Jasd RC microfilm records, 1828-1895:

1. 3 Feb 1835, Stroheber Pal 20 yrs (b. (sz.) about 1815 (korul)),of Balinka, married Major Katalin, 19yrs (b. (sz.)about 1916 (korul)), of Jasd. The witnesses ( tanuk) were Major Gyprgy and Harpaner Matyas.

2. 29 Jan 1889, Hersits Jozsef, napszamos (agricultural daily worker) 31 yrs, widower (ozvegy), of Jasd, married Stroheber Erzsebet, 23 yrs, single (hajadon), of Jasd. The witnesses (tanuk) were Kovacs Gabor and Karner Simon.
(Erzsebet's parents(szulei)were Stroheber Ignacz and Haaz Erzsebet)

3. 24 Nov 1891, Stroheber Istvan, foldmuves (agricultural worker), 18 yrs, of Jasd, single(legeny) , and Benkovics Maria, 18 yrs, single (hajadon). Witnesses were Stroheber Ignacz and Hujber Pal. There is a notation about Istvan ("Had....miniszteri engedllyel", with permission of the military / dept of defence)
Istvan's parents ( Istvan szulei) were Stroheber Jozsef and Frauberger Anna. Stroheber Jozsef's parents (Jozsef szulei) were Stroheber Pal and Major Katalin.

I hope this is hepful. Remelem ez segiti valakiket.
Helen

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muszakiker -a-t- invitel -d-o-t- hu: Re: Stroheber család

Helló kikvagytok ?

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Helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia muszakiker,
En vagyok Helen.KI VAGY TE?
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Here are Stroheber births in Jasd 1828-1895

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Segitseg:
Talaltam az acsteszeri rk anyakonyvben 1785-1895, mormon mikrofilm szam # 697500:

6 feb 1820, Stephanus, szulei, Andreas Stroheber es Barbara Gabriel

Lehetnek ezek a szulok Stroheber Palnak (sz 1810-1815korul) a szulei?
Could these parents be the parents of Pal Stroheber (b. abt 1810-1815)

Looking forward to any comments! Varom hoza szolasokat!
Helen

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen!
Stroheber Pál nem Balinkán született?

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Imi,
Igen, Stroheber Pal Balinkan szulethetett de meg nem latam konyvelve egy anyakonyvben. Es ha igazan Balinkan szuletett az nem zarjaki hovy testverje nem szuletett mashol. Eddig meg nem tudom!
Jo kutatast es szep napot!
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Stroheber Halottak Jasdon 1828 - 1895
Church of Latter Day Saints mikroflim 3699576

26 maius 1842, Orzse, Stroheber Pal leanya (daughter)3/4 ev (yr)

13 apr 1845, Janos, Stroheber Pal fia (son), 1/2 ev (yr)

14 nov 1850, Janos, Stroheber Pal fia (son), 3 het (weeks)

23 nov 1852, Anna Maria, Pauli Stroheber filia (leanya, dau. of), Jasd haz szam 60 ( Jasd House # 60), 6 eves ( yrs). Ez lehet Magdolna sz. 21 aug 1846. This could be Magdolna born 21 Aug 1846.

30 maius 1855, Elizabetha, Pauli Stroheber filia (leanya, dau.of), Jasd haz # 60 (Jasd house # 60)hel, 3 eves (yrs)

29 aug 1855, Michael, Pauli Stroheber filius ( fia, son of), Jasd haz # 60 ( Jasd house # 60), 1 napos ( 1 day).

9 dec 1857, Magdolna, Pauli Stroheber filia ( leanya, dau. of), Jasd haz # 60 ( Jasd house # 60), 3 napos ( 3 days)

3 apr, Stroheber Pal, foldmuves ( agricultural worker), Major Katalin ferje ( husband of), Jasd haz # 64 ( Jasd house # 64), 58 eves ( yrs), "in laz" ( fever of sinew).

24 feb 1871, Major Katalin, Stroheber Pal foldmuves ozvegye ( widow of Stroheber Pal, agricultural worker), 56 eves ( yrs, "mell baj" (breast problem).

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Fojtatas Stroheber holtok, Jasd, 1828 -1895
Continuation, Stroheber deaths, Jasd 1828 -1895

30 sep 1871, Erzsebet, Stroheber Jozsef, foldmuves, es (and) Frauberger Anna, leanya (dau of), Jasd # 50, 6 hetes ( 6 weeks), gyengeseg ( weakness).

6 jan 1877 Janos,Stroheber Ignacz, napszamos, es Haaz Erzsebet, fia ( son of), Jasd # 55, 4 napos ( days).

26 apr 1993, Istvan, Stroheber Istvan, foldmuves, es Benkovics Maria, fia (son of), Jasd # 17, 6 napos (days).

16 apr 1894, Frauberger Anna, Stroheber Jozsef, foldmuves neje (wife of Stroheber Jozsef), Jasd # 17, 66 eves ( yrs), szuletett Balinka( born in Balinka).

8 feb 1895, Pal, Stroheber Istvan, foldmuves es (and) Benkovics Maria fia ( son of), Jasd # 17, 10 napos (days), gyengeseg (weakness).

Kerem ertesiteni hibakrol. Please tell me about errors or questions.
Helen

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Foljtatas( continuation)Stroheber holttak Jasdon 1828-1895

30 szep 1871, Erzsebet, Stroheber Jozsef, foldmuves (agricultural worker)
es(and)Frauberger Anna leanya (dau of), Jasd haz# 50 (Jasd house #50), 6 hetes (6 weeks), gyengeseg (weakness).

6 jan 1877,Janos, Stroheber Ignacz napszamos ( daily worker)es Haaz Erzsebet fia ( son of), Jasd # 55, 4 napos (4 days), gyengeseg ( weakness).

26 apr 1893, Istvan, Stroheber Istvan foldmuves ( agricultural worker),es Benkovics Maria, fia ( son of), Jasd szam 17 (Jasd house No. 17), 6 napos ( 6 days).

16 apr 1894, Frauberger Anna, Stroheber Jozsef, foldmuves neje( wife of Stroheber Jozsef, agricultural worker), Jasd 17 (Jasd house No 17), 66 eves (yrs).

8 feb 1895, Pal, Stroheber Istvan, foldmuves (agricultural worker) es (and)Benkovics Maria fia ( son of), Jasd 17, 10 napos ( 10 days, gyengeseg (weakness).

The above 2 postings contain Stroheber deaths 1828 - 1895 in Jasd. Please let me know about errors,
and ask me for clarifications.
Kerem mindenki ertesitjen hibakrol.
Helen

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Helen: Re: Stroheber család

This grave is in the Jasd cemetery. Photo taken May 2011.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Re: Erzsebet Haz
She was the wife of Ignatz Stroheber. She died 18 Dec 1912 in Jasd at age of 72 yrs, thus born about 1840. Her father is shown as Jakab Haz, her mother was unknown. She died of "aggkorikimerules", exhaustion of old age.
Stroheber Jozsef reported the death.
Note that the name is written as "Haz" on this report of death.
Haz Erzsebet,ferjz. Stroheber Ignacne, Jasd, RK, 72 eves ibe halt, aggkorikimerules-tul, Bejelento volt Stroheber Jozsef.

Tes Allami Holtak, # 2420182, item 3.
Tes Civil Deaths # 242 0182, item 3.
Please ask if you have questions.
Tessek kerdezni ha van kerdes.
Helen

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helenhventin -a-t- simcom.on -d-o-t- ca: Re: Stroheber család

The following baptisms of children of Jakab Stroheber and Anna Ponak are from familysearch.org, Hungary Catholic Church Records, film 699504:

Lajos Stroheber, baptized 16 May 1875 in Aka, Veszprem.

Agoston Stroheber, baptized 28 Aug 1877, Aka.

Anna Stroheber, Baptized 12 Apr 1879, Aka

Maria Stroheber, Baptized 15 June 1881, Aka.

Krisztina Stroheber, baptized 23 Dec 1883, Aka.

The follwing children were baptized in Suur, film 699672:

Vilmos Stroheber, baptized 05 Jul 1890, Suur

Anna Stroheber, baptized 05 Jul 1890, Suur.

Notes:
1. I believe there was another child, Karoly who was born abt 1872 and is not shown on this site. Does anyone know where he was born / baptized?

2. Could Krisztina, baptized 23 Dec 1883, have emigrated to the US , arriving 20 Apr 1899 at 14 yrs of age (ellisisland.org)? On ellisisland she is shown as coming from AKLI.

3. Could Maria, baptized 15 June 1881 in Aka have married Joseph Gaspar and also emigrated to the US?

Please write if you have any questions or information.
Thank you, Helen

17/09/2011, 00:12:46
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JanetB: Re: Stroheber család

I have little doubt that the Krisztina Stroheber baptized Dec 1883 in Aka is the one who immigrated to Ellis Island in 1899 (at the age of 15, although her age is given as 14). She would have become the "Mrs. D. Fodor" living in Passaic, New Jersey that her brother Vilmos (William) spent time with when he first arrived in the US in 1906.

Maria married Joseph Gaspar - I don't know whether this was in Hungary or the US. Their oldest (surviving) child was born Sep 1902 in the US, after which the family moved to Canada, where their second (surviving) child was born in Sep 1906.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Re: Stroheber Ignatz/ Ignats/ Ignac

From Mormon microfims, Tes Allami Records, #2420182 item 3, holtok (deaths):

26 dec 1919, Stroheber Ignac, foldmuves (agricultural worker),in Jasd, r.k. (R.C.), 85 eves (years).

Felesege ( wife) was Haz (also spelled Haaz) Erzsebet.

Szulei ismeretlen (his parents are shown as unknown).

Ignac halt aggkori vegkimerukes tul ( he died of old age exhaustion). Bejelento volt Stroheber jozsef ( registrant of death was Stroheber Joseph).

Tessek irni ha kerdessek vannak. Please write if you have questions.
Szia ( Best regards), Helen

30/09/2011, 00:32:37
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helen

Szia Stroheber csaladtagok (Hello Stroheber family members),

Stroheber szuletesek a tesi allami anyakonyvben 1895 -1906,Mormon templom mikrofilm szam 2189630:
Stroheber births in the Tes records 1895-1906, Mormon (Church of Latter Day Saints) microfim number 2189632:

1896 jan 13, Jozsef, szulok (parents) Stroheber Istvan, rk (RC), foldmuves (agricultural worker), Jasd, Templom utca (street) 17, 22 eves (yrs of age)es,
Benkovics Maria, rk (RC),szult es lakik (born and is living in)Jasd, 21 eves (years)

1898 apr 26, Istvan, szulok (parents) Stroheber Istvan, rk (RC), foldmuves ( agricultural worker), szult es lakik ( born and is living in)Jasd, 24 eves (yrs) es,
Benkovics Maria , rk (RC), szult es lakik (born and is living in ) Jasd, 24 eves (yrs)

Ha valaki eszre vesz hibakok, legyenek szives ertesiteni.
Please notify me of any errors.
Helen

20/10/2011, 00:57:34
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helen

Az elobbi Stroheber szuletesek vannak tesi allami mikrofilm szam 2189630ban.

The previous Stroheber births are in Tes Civil births in # 2189630.

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helen: Stroheber

Stroheber szuletesek (births from) 1900- 1906.
Church of Latter Day Saints microfilm #2189631, Tes:

20 May 1902, Janos,szulok (parents) Stroheber Istvan, 29 eves (yrs),Benkovics Maria 29 eves (yrs), of Jasd.,

24 Sept 1904, Terezia, szulok (parents) Stroheber Jozsef, szult es lakik (born and living in) Jasd, 32 eves ( 32 yrs), es (and) Harninger Maria, szult es lakik (b.and living ) Jasd, 20 eves (20yrs).

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helen: Re: Stroheber

Tes allami anyakonyvben,szuletesek,1895 - 1906, Mormon Templom mikrofilm szam 2189631
Tes Civil Births, 1895 - 1906, Ch. of Latter Day Saints (Mormon Church), microfim # 2189631.

Elnezest kerek, eszt elfelejtetem beutni:
Sorry, I forgot to post this:

22 apr 1900, Agnes, szulei Hersits Jozsef, 49 eves (yrs), Tes, es Stroheber Erzsebet, 33 eves (33 yrs), szuletett Jasd ( born Jasd).

I found no Stroheber marriages between 1895 and 1906 in these Tes Civil records.
Nem talaltam Stroheber hazosssagokat 1895 es 1906 kozt.

Jo kutatast!
Helen

26/10/2011, 22:07:06
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helen: Re: Stroheber család

From Sur Civil records 1898 - 1901, births, familysearch.org

Sur Allami 1898- 1901, szuletesek, familysearch.org

8 Nov 1899, Maria szuletett ( birth), szulei (parents), Stroheber Karoly, rk (R.C.) kovacs mester (master blacksmith), sz. (born in)Bakonyszentkiraly, lakik (living in) Csatka, 26 eves (26 yrs old),es (and),
Redl Maria, sz. es lakik (born in and living in) Csatka, 20 eves (20yrs).
There is a notation "UB 5/77". Not sure what it means; perhaps date of death? If anyone knows, please let me know. Ha valaki tudja mit jelent UB 5/77, legyen szives ertesiteni.

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Imi: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Helen,
UB az Utólagos bejegyzés rövidítése, tehát UB 5/77 azt jelenti, hogy 1977-ben halt meg, az 5-ös sorszám alatt.

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helen: Re: Stroheber család

Szia Imi,
Gondoltam hogy tuddsz az UB rol! Nagyon koszonom!
Helen

07/12/2011, 15:46:42
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Kuti Zsusa

Helennek és Iminek is köszönet!
Kuti Veronika , Ponák Géza felesége a nagynéném, pápateszéri.
A férjéről és családjáról itt tudtam meg kutatásaimhoz néhány infót. Egy Ponák rokon a B.szentkirály fórumon bejelentkezett,több hónap késéssel találtam rá,és válaszoltam, de azóta nincs reagálás, pedig azt reméltem, hogy valamivel többet megtudok nagynéném már elhunyt fiának családjáról.
Wendy Ponák Prentice. Ennyit tudok a rokonról, akit a
P. Géza unokahugának gondolok.Nem tudom milyen más módja volna vele kapcsolatot találni, különösen,hogy nem beszélek angolul.Tud valaki segíteni? Üdv Kuti Zsuzsa

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