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Al Segedy
My grandfather's family name had been Szegedi before his name was americanized to Segedy as part of his naturalization. My grandfather had a brother, István Szegedi, who was born in the town of Csonoplya in about 1887. Csonoplya was in the Bács-Bodrog vármegye of Austria-Hungary but is now called Čonoplja in the Vojvodina province of Serbia. István came to America in 1906 but returned to his home town of Csonoplya several years later. I have been told that István Szegedi had sons, who would of course also had the family name of Szegedi. I am trying to locate any descendents of István Szegedi.
12/03/2005, 05:42:41
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Al Segedy
A nagyapám családneve volt Szegedi. A családneve amerikanizálódott Segedy-re. A nagyapámnak egy bátya volt, akinek a neve Szegedi István volt, és aki született a falu Csonoplyán körülbelül 1887-ben. Csonoplya helyezése volt Bács-Bodrog vármegyében Magyarországon, amely ma Čonoplja a Vojvodinában (Vajdaságban) Szerbiában. István jött el Amerikába 1906-ben, de jött vissza haza a Csonoplyára néhány év később. Nekem mondta meg valaki, hogy Szegedi Istvánnak fiai voltak, akik lennék a Szegedi családneve. Probálom meg, hogy megtaláljam Szegedi István akárki leszármazottait. Sajnos nem beszélek magyarul és csak egy kicsit tudok magyarul.
12/03/2005, 06:17:50
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Szegedi György: whe're Szegedi
My great-grandfather's name: Szegedi István.
19/03/2005, 21:40:04
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi István
Dear György Szegedi

You have responded in English to either my English message or my Hungarian message regarding Szegedi István. However, your name is very Hungarian. Do you speak English or Hungarian or both. Beszél ön angolul vagy magyarul vagy mindkettő? Where do you live? Based on the information I posted on the message board, do you have reason to believe that your great grandfather Szegedi István is the same person as my great uncle Szegedi István who was born in about 1887 and came to America from Csonoplya in 1906 and then returned to Csonoplya a few years later? The parents of my great uncle Szegedi István were Szegedi Márton and Szegedi (formerly Schulcz) Erzsébet; his siblings were Júlia, Mária, András, György (my grandfather), Péter and Ádám; and I believe he had children named János, András, Rozália and Imre, one of whom would be your grandfather if we are talking about the same Szegedi István. Thank you.

Al Segedy
20/03/2005, 02:15:07
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weightmn: Szegedi
I am researching the Szegedi name. My great grandmother Sophia Szegedi was born 1879 in Bodrogkeresztur,Hungary.
She married my grat grandfather Samuel Gonda who born in Tokaj in 1880. They emmigrated to the United States on the Princess Alice From Bremen Germany on May 24,1904.

Samuel's parents were Gyorgy Gonda and Rebeka Eles, Samuel had siblings in Hungary: Kalman, Bela, Gyorgy, Szusania Gonda, Irma, Etelka, Gyula. I do not know if any of them emmigrated to the USA.

Sophia Szegedi's parents were: Janos Szegedi and Zsofia Olah. Siblings of Sophia's- Kalman and Erzsebet Szegedi, there are probably more but this is all I have thus far.

I have a website if your interested as I have lot's more random Szegedi and Gonda info that I found that doesn't seem to pertain to my family but I posted it anyway to help others.

http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7347/szegediinformation.html
17/08/2005, 04:57:52
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Al Segedy: István Szegedi
Dear György Szegedi,
On March 20, 2005, I replied to your response of March 19, 2005, to my letter about your great grandfather István Szegedi. You had never responded to my reply. Can you possibly give me more information about your great grandfather? I only know a little Hungarian. Thank you.

Kedves Szegedi György !
2005. március 20-án válaszoltam az ön válaszát 2005. Március 19-én a levelemnek a dédapyáról Szegedi Istvánről. Ön sohasem válaszolta a válaszomat. Lehet, hogy adjak nekem több információt a dédapjáról? Csak egy kicit tudok magyarul. Köszönöm szépen.
04/01/2007, 03:15:35
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weightmn: RE:Szegedi
I am interested that you mentioned Bodrog when you wrote of your Szegedi family. My famaily is from that area as well. Found loads of Szegedi's on the Microfilms of parish registers.

Where did your family go in the USA before they returned to Hungary?

This is only some of the Szegedi info I have found in the USA so far:
http://www.geocities.com/Heartland/Plains/7347/szegediinformation.html

08/01/2007, 16:49:28
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Dear weightmn,

My family came to Akron, Ohio before they returned to the village of Csonoplya in Bács-Bodrog county, now the Vojvodina province of Serbia.

Al Segedy
20/01/2007, 05:51:13
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puhoferenc: Re: Szegedi
Figyelmedbe ajanlom a Magyarorszag csaladai cimu konyvet
21/01/2007, 14:59:55
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weightmn: Re: Szegedi
Dear Al,

I may be able to help in some way. I have quite a bit on Szegedi's that were in Ohio. In most every case I cannot yet tie them to my family but have a bunch of information. Maybe something you can use.
Never know we may get lucky and connect our families.

Diane
22/01/2007, 04:55:45
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weightmn: Re: Szegedi
Can anyone tell me what this says? I am linquistically handciapped; I only speak/read English sadly.

"Figyelmedbe ajanlom a Magyarorszag csaladai cimu konyvet "

Thank you,
Diane
22/01/2007, 04:57:11
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Al Segedy: Szegedi
Kedves Puhó úr !

Sajnos nem beszélek magyarul. Csak egy kicsit tudok magyarul.

Írta: Figyelmedbe ajánlom a Magyarország családai címu könyvet.

Sajnálom, de nem ismerem a Magyarország családai címu könyvet. Mi az? Hol van? Az Internet-en?

Köszönöm szépen.

Al Segedy
23/01/2007, 03:17:15
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Al
21/06/2007, 04:13:46
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Al Segedy: Szegedi
I am trying to make contact with Kristian Segedi of Germany, a descendant of István Szegedi from the village of Csonoplya in present-day Vojvodina province of Serbia.
21/06/2007, 04:20:54
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sagal: Re: Szegedi
Al!

Ha még érdekli a "Magyarország családai" c. könyv, akkor küldjön egy emailt és elküldöm Önnek.


Üdvözlettel:


Szegedi György
21/06/2007, 08:55:57
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Al Segedy: Szegedi/Segedi
Ich möchte Kristian Segedi von Deutschland finden. Er ist ein Verwandter des István Szegedi. Er hat mir einen e-mail gesandt. Danke Schön.

Szeretném a Kristian Segedi-t Németországról találni. Ő Szegedi István rokona Küldetett nekem egy e-mail-t. Köszönöm szépen.

I would like to find Kristian Segedi from Germany. He is a relative of István Szegedi. He sent me an e-mail. Thank you very much.

Al Segedy
09/07/2007, 03:59:07
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Al Segedy: Szegedi

Ich möchte Kristian Segedi von Deutschland finden. Er ist ein Verwandter des István Szegedi. Er hat mir einen e-mail gesandt. Danke Schön.

Szeretném a Kristian Segedi-t Németországról találni. Ő Szegedi István rokona Küldetett nekem egy e-mail-t. Köszönöm szépen.

I would like to find Kristian Segedi from Germany. He is a relative of István Szegedi. He sent me an e-mail. Thank you very much.

Al Segedy
16/02/2008, 03:52:59
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stephanie: szegedi
i also have an istvan szegedi in my family. hes my grandfather. born in kuczora aug 19 1907 his father was peter szegedi born about 1877,in kuczora and died there around 1908, peter was married to helen j besserman when he died they had 3 boys gergely, mark, an istvan, the boys came to usa in 1913 after their mom. im looking for peters parents an siblings. i did research and found that a relative accompanied the boys over here in 1913. possibly an aunt by the name erzsebet papuga 36 yrs old. any info would be greatly appreciated. i have info for 2 of the brothers but gergely dissapeared after 1930 in cleveland.
thank you
stephanie
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21/02/2008, 21:00:51
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Al Segedy: Re: szegedi
22/02/2008, 05:43:07
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Al Segedy: Re: szegedi
Stephanie,
The István Szegedi in my family was born in Csonoplya, Hungary on August 8, 1887. He had four children: János, Andris, Rozália and Imre. István arrived in America on February 6, 1906, and settled in Akron, Ohio. After a few years István returned to Hungary, settling in the town of Hodzsák (Odzaci in Serbian). Csonoplya (Čonoplja)and Hodzsák are in present-day Serbia. Presumably István's children were born when he returned to Hungary. István is my dad's uncle. István's parents were Márton and Erzsébet Szegedi, who also came to Akron but returned at the same time István returned to Hungary. If we are related, it must go back farther. I'm sorry I can't be more help.
Al Segedy
22/02/2008, 06:09:29
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stephanie: Re: szegedi
al
thanks for getting back to me. do you know the siblings of istvan? or the children of marton and erzebet it could be possible. im looking for parents of peter szegedi. and his siblings. its possible they were cousins or siblings. what do u think? peter szegedi had 3 children with a ilona besserman szegedi he died in his early 30's in hungary. her father sent her over here to start a boarding house for other immigrants coming over here. all i have is that he was born about 1877 and died in his early 30's. thats it.so im trying to find out who his parents and siblings were. thanks for your help. i have a picture of peter and his children, wife and 3 unidentified women, who could be aunts or something. i dont know. again thanks for the reply.
22/02/2008, 06:32:28
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Al Segedy: Re: szegedi
Stephanie,
The siblings of my great uncle István Szegedi were Júlia, Mária, András, György (my grandfather, whose name was changed to George Segedy), Péter and Ádám (who died as an infant). They were all the children of Márton and Erzsébet Szegedi. Erzsébet was born Erzsébet Schultz (or Schulcz). István and Júlia (married name Rajcsányi) returned to Hungary with Márton and Erzsébet in about 1917. This Péter Szegedi was born in Csonoplya on December 13, 1896, came to America in 1912, and and lived and died in Akron.
Al Segedy
22/02/2008, 07:07:49
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stephanie: Re: szegedi
al
thank you so much for you help and time. i'll keep looking.
22/02/2008, 07:44:45
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Zlatica : Re: szegedi
Stephanie

Kuczora, Bacs-Bodrog megye, Hungary now Kucura, Serbia.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
cross reference with www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm and much detailed old map http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm
www.kuijsten.de/navigator
22/02/2008, 15:28:52
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Zlatica : Re: szegedi
Stephanie

Have you posted on http://genforum.com
www.ancestry.com/community
Not sure but maybe these few sites might be of some help in your research:
www.rodoslovlje.com
www.yugoslavroots.com
The villages mentioned, Csonoplya and Kuczora (Kucora)are not that far from each other, at least don't look it on the old Lazarus map.
Using one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org
from Kucora: 24 people; from Kuczora: 174; from Kaczora 1; from Kuczova : 47 .
Most of PAPUGAs arriving thru EI were from historical region Galicia, Austria.
2 BESSERMANY from Kucura arr. in 1922
www.ellisislandrecords.org
www.411.com

22/02/2008, 15:55:04
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stephanie: Re: szegedi
yes i ve tried those but i dont read hungarian, and its not in english. okay maybe mark is a hungarian name but thats how it was spelled on his passenger list coming over here. his brothers were gergely, which was harry when he came to usa, other brother istvan went by steve, and mark was changed to mike. i dont know but thier mothers name in hungarian was ilona changed to helen go figure. ive hit a brick wall. thanks for you help tho.
24/02/2008, 06:15:41
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Zlatica : Re: szegedi
Just wanted to make sure you were notified. Do not believe that I gave you a site in Hungarian.
Yes, Ilona would be Helen. Which port did they come thru? Have you posted on Ancestry and Genforum?
24/02/2008, 06:21:49
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weightmn: Re: szegedi
I have a bunch of Szegedi Information on my website. I have been working to restore it as I had taken it down.
I have put up the homepage and the Szegedi information.
There is info there for naturalizations etc..especially in Ohio and PA.

I have most of the naturalization papers if you have any questions about anyone you find on my pages. If a link is broken notify me and I will get it fixed. I am working to restore the whole site.
http://geocities.com/weightmn/szegediinformation.htm


Diane
24/02/2008, 08:51:12
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stephanie
could someone please tell me what the name mihaly is in english.
thank you
24/02/2008, 20:55:32
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kezdi
Michael, Mike in short like Misi
24/02/2008, 21:16:41
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weightmn: Szegedi info- Ohio useful tool
Wanted to pass along a tool that has been very helpful for researching in Cuyahoga County Ohio. It was helpful with researching marriage info online as well as some other such as probate/wills/lawsuits.
If you put in a last name such as Szegedi for the groom it will show you all of them listed and their brides full name (maiden) It was a goldmine for me.

http://probate.cuyahogacounty.us/ml/
25/02/2008, 19:42:31
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stephanie
hi
can any one tell me what this name is? Alles or allis
its a first name. hes also male. with last name of (not sure of spelling) bosemenyi or bosermenyi. i cant really read it. its ancestry.com on a passenger list as a grandfathers name. what does first name translate to? i know the last name was changed to besserman, but only when the came over here. this grandfather did not come over here.
27/02/2008, 06:28:02
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kezdi
Most likely Illes Boszormenyi. Ancestry.com has printed version, how is it spelled there and what was the immigration date?
27/02/2008, 07:18:10
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weightmn: Szegedi and spelling on Ancestry
Can you add a link to this for us to look at?

Most likely Illes Boszormenyi. Ancestry.com has printed version, how is it spelled there and what was the immigration date?
27/02/2008, 07:27:10
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stephanie
here is the link i hope it worked. look at the szeged's gergely, mark, (i think) and istvan. try to read the name after boszermenyi. i think your right i just found a person with that name on a passenger list. do you know what that might be in english? (Illes) thanks for your help.

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27/02/2008, 08:04:58
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kezdi: Re: Szegedi and spelling on Ancestry
http://search.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/sse.dll?gl=allgs&gst=40&rank=1&gsfn=&gsln=boszormenyi&=&rb__81004201-date=&re__81004201-date=&rg_83004201__int=&rs_83004201__int=0&_82004210=&_82004200=&_82004280=&_F0002841=&gskw=&sbo=0&sbor=&prox=1&db=&ti=0&ti.si=0&gss=angs-c&ghc=10&fh=0&bsk=BEFmBBcIgAAELAADQvk-61-
27/02/2008, 08:52:26
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kezdi
By the Hungarian dictionary, version of Elias:
ILLÉS - az Éliás önállósult változata.
27/02/2008, 09:04:48
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Al Segedy: Szegedi
To be exact, using the diacritical marks, the name is most likely Illés Böszörményi.
27/02/2008, 14:47:38
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
hi al
yes i think your right. but im still in a rut. i think some of the boszormenyis that i have found are related i just dont know which ones. i think they are brothers and sisters and cousins and neices and nephews i just cant put it all together without the parents of ilona szegedi nee boszormenyi or peters parents.
27/02/2008, 19:20:43
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Zlatica : Re: SZCGEDI
Stephanie

The EI manifest is under (mis)spelling SZCGEDI (SZEGEDI)Gergely, Mark and Astvan (Istvan) from Kuczora
Mark and Istvan were naturalized citizens.
PAPUGA Erzsebet was from Sajkasgyorgye, Bacs-Bodrog megye, Hungary now Durdevo, Serbia
Grandfather's first name looks as Alles or Illes.
27/02/2008, 19:40:43
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stephanie: Re: SZCGEDI
thank you everybody on this site, i think im finally putting this together. everybodys been so helpful thank you very much. i have names now but i still need to put the puzzle together. without names i was really stuck.
27/02/2008, 19:53:34
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Al Segedy: Szegedi
Stephanie,
As I mentioned, my Szegedi ancestors came from the village of Csonoplya (Čonoplja) in Bács-Bodrog megye (county) in historic Hungary but present-day Serbia. Your Szegedi ancestor apparently came from the village of Kuczora (Kucura), also in Bács-Bodrog megye. Although Szegedi is a pretty common Hungarian name, the two villages are only 25 miles apart, and there may be some relationship between our Szegedi families if we went back a few more generations.
Al
28/02/2008, 03:57:46
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Al Segedy: Szegedi
Stephanie,
For what it may be worth, something I forgot to mention in my last reply: My dad's uncle István Szegedi came to Akron in 1906 and then returned to Hungary. István went back to Csonoplya (Čonoplja) and then moved to the village of Hodzsák (Odžaci), also in Bács-Bodrog megye (county). Hodzsák (Odžaci) is only about 10 miles from the village of Kuczora (Kucura), where your Szegedi ancestor apparently came from.
Al
28/02/2008, 04:53:39
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weightmn: Re: Szegedi/help please
Does anyone know of a really good historical map of Hungary? I would like to know how close my Szegedi family from Tojaj, Tarczal and Bodrogkeresztur are from the ones you are searching. I have a sneaking suspicion at some point I may be able to tie these names in to my history. I have seen them a lot. I have gathered so many Szegedi names from the microfilms, documents etc...but I do not know how to tie them together yet. I do not read Hungarian, I am learning to know what to look for and read some of the words only.

Also does anyone know if of someone who could do translation from English to Hungarin reasonablly? I have a Szegedi in Tokaj that I have written to a long time ago and I would like to reply again and do not have a translator.
28/02/2008, 07:33:02
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Zlatica : Re: Szegedi/help please
weightmn

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/tantort/2003/palyazat/index.htm
http://lazarus.elte.hu/autotk
28/02/2008, 13:07:54
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kezdi: Re: Szegedi/help please
weightmn,
To compare locations, the easiest to use is the RADIX "Search places in the 1913 gazetteer of Hungary!"

Once you find one place, you can search for the other on the same page. Clicking back and forth between the two pages it's easy to see both. You can also print them, and transfer the little red location circles onto one page.

Additional advantage, that has the county lines, although doesn't have the County names on it, use it with the ELTE map which has: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm

I saved and copied Csonoplya on the Radix map below.
I can help you with Hungarian.

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28/02/2008, 17:04:36
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kezdi: Re: Szegedi/help please
Here's the same map with Tarczal

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28/02/2008, 17:07:54
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
al,
i have a feeling our families are connected some how i just cant figure it out yet. i have found my g grandmothers maiden name to be of a different spelling than i had. anyway abunch of boszormenyi lived in the ohio areas of barberton and cleveland. im stuck becuz i dont know her siblings names which im sure they are some of the people in those areas. they are from kuczura. so i think they are related, i just dont have any documentation, of her siblings or parents. i think diane weightmans family is related somehow to my line also. were gettin close tho.
28/02/2008, 20:24:24
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
Your great grandfather Péter Szegedi was born in 1877. My great grandfather Márton Szegedi was born in Csonoplya in 1861. Do you know where Péter Szegedi was born? Do you know who his siblings were? Although it is unlikely, considering how big families were back then, frequently 8 – 10 kids, they could conceivably be cousins or even brothers.
Can you tell me which of your ancestors came through Ellis Island and when they came? What were their full names to the extent you know?
One thing I learned is that you cannot trust the spellings. The Ellis Island records frequently get it all wrong, being unfamiliar with Hungarian names and the “funny” letters. Similarly, when you do a search on the Ellis Island website, the searches produce incorrect spelling because of the manifests being so hard to read and because of the way they formed their letters back then while writing in long hand. Plus, the people themselves were frequently illiterate and spelled their own names wrong or used a German or Slavic version of it. Furthermore, the given names were frequently in a Latin form on the birth and marriage certificates. My great grandfather Márton was Martinus on his birth certificate. My grandfather György Szegedi's name was Georgius.
I am hardly fluent in Hungarian, but I have a decent working knowledge of the language, and if you need a word or two or even a paragraph or so translated, I could probably help you or at least give it a try.
Al
29/02/2008, 04:58:55
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
al
yes my great grandfather was peter szegedi born in kucura in 1877. i have no idea who his siblings or parents were. thats why im researching all this. but i do agree i think they could be cousins or brothers. just cant find docs with parents names.
my great grandmother that was married to peter came thru ellis island in nov 1910 on the ship pennsylvania from hamburg. peters 3 boys came thru ellis island in nov 1913 on the pannonia. those are the ones i know for sure that they are related to me. peter died in 1908 in hungary. his boys went to live with their grandfather illes boszormenyi. i think he came over here a couple of times before then and went back. i have him in 1900 and in 1899 coming over here. believe me i know about spellings i was told my g grand mothers name was besserman which i now know was spelled boszormenyi. i found that out on my own. anyway any help to put this puzzle together would be greatly appreciated.
stephanie
29/02/2008, 17:49:22
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
I'm confused. I was trying to reconstruct what you are saying from all of your postings. I think you are saying that your great grandmother came over in 1910, at which time her legal name would have been Ilona Szegedi. Her husband Péter Szegedi died in Hungary in 1908. Her maiden name had been Ilona Böszörményi. However, at some point in time her name became Helen J. Besserman. If I have this right, I would have to guess that when she became a naturalized American she changed her name and took on the name Helen J. Besserman, an americanized version of her maiden name of Ilona Böszörményi, just as my grandfather's name was changed from György Szegedi to George Segedy. Did you find her in the Ellis Island records? What was her full name in the Ellis Island record? Did she come over in 1910 for sure? Maybe I did something wrong, but I cannot find her.
Al
01/03/2008, 02:30:14
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
I don't know what this is worth to you, and maybe you have this information, but I found a Natalie Bessermany, age 15, and Michal Bessermany, age 13, who came over in November of 1922 on the ship Mount Carroll. Their father was Johann Poldruni of Kucura, Jugoslavia, and their destination was Barberton, Ohio. Before 1920 Kucura was part of Hungary. By 1922 Jugoslavia had been created. If I had to guess, Bessermany is a Germanized version of Böszörmény. Their father has a German first name, Johann, and there were huge numbers of ethnic Germans living in that region.
Al
01/03/2008, 02:55:23
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
According to the Summit County, Ohio naturalization records, Michal Bessermany (shown as Michal Bessermenyi) became Mike Besserman, and Natalie Bessermany, who was married to Eugene Evans, became Nellie Evans.
Al
01/03/2008, 03:15:47
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weightmn: Re: Szegedi
For what it is worth I found Ilona Szegedi on Ellis Island.
http://www.ellisisland.org/search/shipManifest.asp?pID=103534130034

I do recommend that you use the Searching Ellis Island in One Step. You can add all sorts of creative searches and I have found some hard to find relatives this way.
http://www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html
01/03/2008, 04:12:06
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
weightmn,
I found the two Ilona Szegedi names, but neither one came through Ellis Island in 1910, the year that Stephanie said her great grandmother came through. If she came through in 1910, she must have come through under some form of her maiden name or under her husband's name, such as Szegedi Péterné. Maybe Stephanie can clear this up.
Al
01/03/2008, 06:11:23
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
hey al
did you get my email i tried to post u thru my email. did it work?
01/03/2008, 07:14:17
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
hey all i found the document. i went back to ancestry and typed in ilona szegedi. another one came up and the wasnt her and as i scrolled down the page came across a flona with an F szegedi 32, widowed and coming from kuczura from her father illes boszermenyi. finally a name. im so excited, i had to share it with you.

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01/03/2008, 07:59:18
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
I do not think I received your e-mail. I'm not sure whether or not I ever set it up to receive e-mail when I subscribed to RadixForum.
Al
01/03/2008, 21:19:43
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
I do not think I received your e-mail. I'm not sure whether or not I ever set it up to receive e-mail when I subscribed to RadixForum.
Al
01/03/2008, 21:21:14
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Al Segedy: Re: Szegedi
Stephanie,
I'm happy for you. The "Flona" for "Ilona" is a great example of the person extracting the information from the passenger list being unfamiliar with Hungarian names as well as Hungarian handwriting.
I see that she was an ethnic Hungarian and that her destination was Barberton. I do not know where you are from or how familiar you are with Barberton, but a lot of Hungarians settled in Barberton.
I can also see that the spelling of her father's name was Illés Böszörményi.
Al
01/03/2008, 21:52:27
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
al
i have also found brothers of illes boszormenyi, 2 that i know of. and a brther of ilona.
02/03/2008, 02:25:39
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stephanie: Re: Szegedi
al sorry i sent a email directly from mine and i dont think it worked. any way you know the info now. sorry
02/03/2008, 02:29:42
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Boris Segedi: Re: Szegedi
(SORRY FOR MY ENGLIS)
Hello Al, my name is Boris Segedi(1984.), I am from Odžaci(Hodzsák).Istvan Szegedi was my dad's grandfather and hi comes from Čonoplja...

Istvan have 3 kids :

1) Antun hi die on 10.05.2005.
(my grandfather, his sons
Endre(1957.)
and Stevan(1960.)

2)Djeno
(who is in Germany, place is Pforcheim;
2 kids - Eleonora And Kristian)

3) Anna she is also in Germany but I dont know the place.

Djeno is coming every year in Odžaci several time also and his kids

For Anna I dont know nothing I was little when last time I see her


E-mail: segedib -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com
17/10/2008, 19:48:27
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stephie0821
My grandmothers family came to Canada around 1912. I am trying to help her find any relatives that she may have. Her fathers name was Alexander Szegedi and mothers name was Rosie. My great grandparents (Alexander and Rosie Szegedi) are both from Budapest in Turkey. I would really like to know if I have any relatives.
18/10/2008, 05:35:52
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Zlatica : Szegedi
Stephie0821

Did you mean Budapest, Hungary? Most of our ancestors were from small villages. What documentation do you have that they were from Budapest?

Hungary's phone book: www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
www.surnamenavigator.org
18/10/2008, 17:16:33
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stephie0821
I have no documentation to go by just what my grandmother has told me. We really don't know much. I only know that my great grandfather lived in Budapest before he moved to Canada and the he married my Great grandma Rosie before they moved. Then they had 2 children Olga and John.
18/10/2008, 23:59:09
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Zlatica : Szegedi
stephie0821

Budapest is a large city with lot of churches so you would have to know which district the church was in to order the church records. Take a look in LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) site for yourself. Did you find their actual arrival manifest to Canada?
19/10/2008, 00:02:42
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Chizy: Mikepércs
Üdv!

Ükanyám, Szegedi Róza Mikepércsen született 1888. jún. 10.-én, férje Kun Sándor. Apja Szegedi Gábor, aki Sárándon született 1860. szept. 30.-án, felesége Kovács Zsuzsanna. Valószínűleg volt egy Szegedi Lajos nevezetű testvére, akinek Mikepércsen volt egy kis szikvízüzeme. Szegedi Gábor 1927. jún. 22.-én hunyt el Mikepércsen. Az ő apja szintén Szegedi Gábor, anyja Gellért Sára, ők 1859-ben kötöttek házasságot Mikepércsen. Az egész család református.
Valaki be tudja azonosítani őket a saját családjába?

My great-grandmothers mother called Szegedi Róza, She was born in 10. june 1888. in Mikepércs, She had a husband: Kun Sándor. Her father called Szegedi Gábor who was born in 30. september 1860. in Sáránd (near Mikepércs.) He had a wife: Kovács Zsuzsanna. Probable His was a brother (Szegedi Lajos) who was directory of a small some-wather factori in Mikepércs. Szegedi Gábor was died in 22. june 1927 in Mikepércs. His father called Szegedi Gábor, too, His wife name was Gellért Sára. They married in 1859 in Mikepércs. The all family was follow the calvinistical religion.
Identify them anybody?

Best regards,
Chizy
30/09/2010, 08:29:26
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Csicsi: Re: Mikepércs
Szia! Én is elkezdtem a családfámat keresni, így bukkantam rá az üzire. Hát meglepő és ízig volt olvasni. Én nagyapám Kun Sándor 1912 szeptember 19-én született Mikepércsen. Nagymamádat ismerem.
27/03/2012, 22:15:00
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Chizy: Re: Mikepércs
Szia, kedves Rokon! Hát én is meglepődtem, ahogy az üzenetedet olvastam! :) Próbáltam írni a megadott e-mail címedre, de visszapattant a levél. Kérlek, vedd fel velem a kapcsolatot az alábbi címen: t.v.chizy - kukac - gmail.com. Őszintén szólva sajnos még nem sikerült rájönnöm, hogy kit rejt a nicked, nagymamám jártasabb ezen a téren, de nekem a család ezen ága (még) nem túl ismert. A családfa pedig az előző kommentem óta már szépen bővülget, úgyhogy remélem, még a kutatásban is tudok segíteni neked. :)
rokoni üdvözlettel: Chizy
06/12/2012, 20:10:58
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