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walenta: Jelentkezzetek
Hellló! ha vanak még valahol Walenták irjatok mailt nekem. Jó lenne valakivel találkoozni
19/03/2004, 10:33:29
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gily: Re: Jelentkezzetek
Kedves Walenta!
Az ancestry.com oldalról megkeresett egy Tom Maher nevű úr, Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania-ból, keresi Walenta (believed to be Czech)
Martaus (believed to be Slovak)
Forish (believed to be Czech)
Kalicik (believed to be Slovak) nevű rokonait.
Hátha Te is közülük vagy?
Kérem, válaszolj, összehozlak akkor az úrral.
Kirilly Edit
24/07/2009, 22:49:16
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walenta: Re: Jelentkezzetek
Hello!
Miért keres engem?Irjatok
25/07/2009, 05:39:41
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gily: Re: Jelentkezzetek
Kedves Walenta! Szóval a lenti emailt kaptam és utána kerestem a lent említett neveket, így akadtam rád. Én csak a saját linkemen keresztül tudok vele levelezni, közvetlenül nem. De megadhatom a te email címedet, ha megírod nekem én meg neki és akkor tudtok közvetlenül "priviben". Az a baj, hogy az ancestry.com fizetős, ha levelezni akarsz, ezért kell a privát email cím. Én fizetek érte, csak segíteni akarok, annyira élvezem én is, amikor találok rokoni szálakat. De megírom ennek a Tom nevű úriembernek, hogy rád találtam és ha ő megadja az email címét, akkor megírom ide neked.
Gondolom, van a családjában Walenta.
Amit kérdez a Pagur családról, azt megtaláltam, hogy időnként Pagurkának hívták őket és Eperjes vidékéről valók.
Üdv
Kirilly Edit

Hello,

I hope that you don't mind the unsolicited message, but I noticed that you are located in Budapest, and I thought that you might have some great research advice for your local area that you may be willing to share.

I would also be willing to share anything that I could.

To be specific, my european research is rather limited based on my location, near Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Would you have any advice for an english only individual to research europe from this distance?

Some of issues that I experience have to do with border changes...

Example:

My great grandfather:

Alexander Pagur (Born: 24FEB1884)

It appears that he emigrated to the US when he was 16, but my great aunt states that he had studied for the priesthood in Budapest.

His 1917 WWI Draft Registration shows that he was born in Hungary.

The 1920 US Census shows that he was born in Austria. (Magyar)

His 1942 WWII Draft Registration shows that he was born in Otura, Czechoslovakia.

His father was Andrew Pagur, and his mother's name was Rose.

As you can see, this is a bit confusing, and I believe it all has to do with border changes over time.

Would you have any information where someone would study for the priesthood in Budapest?

In addition to Pagur, other names I'm researching are:

Walenta (believed to be Czech)
Martaus (believed to be Slovak)
Forish (believed to be Czech)
Kalicik (believed to be Slovak)

Any advice at all would be greatly appreciated.

Thank you.

Tom
25/07/2009, 21:51:02
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Zlatica : Re: Alexander Pagur
gily

Map of old Hungary:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm
Outline of 1910 Hungarian megyes:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/varmegy2.gif
Otura/O-tura/Alt-Turn/Tura, Nyitra megye Hungary now Stara Tura, Slovak Republic
An ALL site for research in Slovakia:
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
No W in Slovak alphabet so your WALENTA is VALENTA
Valenta, Anna Tura, Cz Slov 21 1900 1921
Valenta, Anna Tura, Austria 26 1887 1913 They show came to America thru Ellis Island.
Did your "Czech" ancestor considered themselves Bohemian?
Have you posted on http://genforum.com www.ancestry.com
25/07/2009, 22:27:09
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Zlatica : Re: Walenta, Martaus, Forish, Kalicik
Tom

Walenta (believed to be Czech)
Martaus (believed to be Slovak)
Forish (believed to be Czech)
Kalicik (believed to be Slovak)
No W in Czech or Slovak alphabet.
We need location for all 4 of these surnames to get you going with the research. Most of US documents should have a place of birth.
FORISH seems an Americanized version.
In SK's phone book: VALENTA, MARTAUS,
www.zoznamst.sk
In CZ's phone book:
http://phone.quick.cz
VALENTA, MARTAUS.
25/07/2009, 22:37:01
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Zlatica : Re: PAGUR
Alexander Pagur (Born: 24FEB1884)
Do you have his arrival manifest? Was he naturalized citizen, did he have social security numbers?
http://ssdi.rootsweb.com Only 4 PAGURs and Alexander not among them.
Eperjes, Saros megye is Presov, Saris region, Slovak Republic. The surname PAGUR does not show up in SK's phone book, but find a PAGUR in Poland:
http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/pagur.html
Not finding KALICIK but KALCSIK in EI
Kalcsik, Alojzsa Kotacsko, Hungary 23 1885 1908
Kalcsik, Annie Kotacsko, Hungary 2 1906 1908
Kalcsik, Marinka Kotacsko, Hungary 3 1905 1908
26/07/2009, 03:26:19
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