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mike
does anyone have an ancestor named Joannes Csepa emigrated to the US around 1880?
2004/02/09, 05:46:48
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Zlatica : Csepa
No ancestor CSEPA in my family tree. Just want to give you some websites that might prove to be usefull in your research.

32 CSEPAs passed thru Ellis Island to America. You might want to take a look at those manifest. Your ancestor did not pass thru the port since it opened in 1892 but it is a start. Several of the Csepa have that they are from Iloncza. This village is in Bereg megye and at present in Ukraine.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 click on Bereg
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm

www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names names website
Do you know what language your ancestor spoke or what did he consider himself to be ?

A spelling C'EPA shows up in Slovak Republic's phone book.
www.zoznamst.sk
www.tccweb.org
www.carpatho-rusyn.org
Hungary's phone site is listing CSEPA.
www.matav.hu/tudakozo
You need to locate a name of a town for your ancestor in order to proceed with the research.
www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
http://vivisimo.com
www.imrehun.com
www.centroconsult.sk
2004/02/09, 06:19:00
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DomjanGyorgy
Csépa is a village now in Hungary, close to Tisza river and Csongrád town. I've read about that the the oldest owners of this village were CHEPAs.
2007/06/26, 22:45:13
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mike chappie: reply
Domjan, Thankyou for the info, its interesting because the name was changed from csepa to chippa and then at a latter date to chappie. I still cant find where he emigrated from in Europe. Immigration records before 1900 here can be pretty hard to get sometimes.
2007/12/23, 02:50:42
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA
Mike

Are you the original poster? If yes, did you read my reply?
Your ancestor could have come thru Baltimore, Boston, Philadelphia, Galveston or Canada port.
Did you try www.castlegarden.org
What information do you have on your CSEPA ancestor?
Was he naturalized citizen? Did you try to locate a Draft Registration Form? What church he married or had the children baptized?
You of course will be chasing the spelling CSEPA and not the Americanized version.
2007/12/23, 03:00:23
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA
Zlatica, Im the original poster. I sent you a thankyou for the information you supplied after you posted the original message but for some reason it didnt post on the board. I apoligize for you not recieving a thankyou because obviously you spent a great deal of time on your original reply.
2007/12/23, 03:09:58
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA
Your welcome.

Anything in the original post of help? Did you look at Janos CSEPAs that came thru Ellis Island? You know that family went to family in the old days so if not your ancestor but maybe his cousin. Joannes seems to be written in Latin so he could have come as Iwan, Ivan, Janos, Jan.
Hungary's phone book:
www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
Have you posted on http://genforum.com www.ancestry.com/community
What was language of your ancestor?
www.kuijsten.de/navigator
2007/12/23, 03:14:01
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA
Mike

An update on first name site:
http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.au/names
Maybe if you would provide some more information, I might be able to give you few more websites for research.
You might want to take a look at CZEPAs manifest.
www.iabsi.com/gen/public for research in Slovak Republic
www.karpatok.uzhgorod.ua/index3.html
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.felix-game.ca
What is the maiden name of the female CSEPA ancestor? Sometimes that proves to be of help.
2007/12/23, 03:29:19
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA
I searched every web site you suggested in the original post. Many of them I searched multiple times since the first time. I searched under czepa also. I came accross a Janos csepa somewhere but cant remember where, I thought it was an entirely different name, I have probably spent 30 to 40 hours researching over past few years. Spouse name was Anna Jankanics, I also researched her name. My Grandfather said his father, Joannes was a White Russian, but it sure doesnt sound Russian to me. Joannes birth certificate says Graeco Catholic Ruthenae Church.
2007/12/23, 05:06:19
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Zlatica: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Mike

Graeco Catholic - Greek Catholic / Byzantine Catholic
Ruthenae - Ruthenian/Rusyn.
You most likely saw Janos CSEPA in Ellis Island site.
JANKANICS: 8 came thru Ellis Island but no Anna among them. Few of them were from Also Olysva/Alova/Olsva.
Alsoolsva, Zemplen megye, Hungary is now Nizna Olsava, Saris region, Slovak Republic.
JANKANIC^OVA (ova a female ending) list in Nizna Olsava's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk
Nizna Olsava is in area code/UTO 054 C^EPA list in good numbers there.
Can you attach a copy of the baptismal certificate? Is it from "old country"? Is it in Cyrillic? There should be a name of a village on the document.
2007/12/23, 05:16:36
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Zlatica : Re: JANKANICS
Mike

Check on the following (mis)spellings in EI:
JANKONIC, YANKANNIS, ZANKANICS, FANKANICH, TANKANICS, JANKONICS, JONKANICS, and JANKANIE.
2007/12/23, 05:50:30
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
There isnt a town of origin for Csepa's on Baptismal Certificate. The town where the baptism was performed is in Hazleton, PA, about two hundred miles from my present location. There isnt a Church listed on it either. The original Church burned down same year as baptism, 1893. Congregation split into two, history says most were either Poles or Ukranians and they went separate ways, they built two separate churches.
2007/12/23, 06:54:47
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Zlatica: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Bummer. Most of the time the church baptism record would have a place of birth of the parents.
Was your ancestor naturalized citizen? Did he/she have social security numbers? http://ssdi.rootsweb.com Sometimes the godparents surname can provide a clue as to the location of the ancestral village. Any Draft Registration Form?
www.c-rs.org
2007/12/23, 07:13:12
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
I cant find naturalization record for either western PA or eastern PA. No Soc. no., he wasnt in the Military. I have a neighbor that has the same surname as my relatives Godparent, I should see if he has relatives from that area.
2007/12/24, 01:21:53
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Mike

Family went to family, so it is possible that neighbor's ancestor might be connected to yours.
All "alien men" had to register before WW1.
If your ancestor was not naturalized but lived pass 1940 than he had to fill out an Alien Registration Form.
The social security did not come into until 1936.
2007/12/24, 01:27:34
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Do you know a good web site to obtain naturalization records the one I looked at was a PA records site, and PA is a difficult state to obtain records.
2007/12/24, 01:49:05
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Zlatica: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Did you try NARA?
My grandfather's naturalization petition was in Philadelphia's archive. My husband's grandfather's petition was in Luzerne County Courthouse. One lived by Pittsburgh and the other by Wilkes-Barre. It is the petition after 1906 that is much detailed.
2007/12/24, 01:52:06
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Do you know if the registry was National or State.I just went to a PA record site that is about 150 from here. They want to sell a book for 14.95 to find out how to get information when you go to the records center. PA is a difficult State to obtain records.
2007/12/24, 01:59:26
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
My greatgrandfather first settled in Hazleton, Luzerne County, then moved to Somerset County near Johnstown. I guess I will have to find out where Somerset has their office. NARA website is under maintenance.
2007/12/24, 02:10:01
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
naturalization certificate files, known as C-Files, include a duplicate copy of all naturalization records dated after September 26, 1906. All C-Files contain at least a copy of the Declaration of Intention to become a US Citizen, Petition for Naturalization, and Certificate of Naturalization. Occasional files contain additional documents or correspondence.

C-Files include all US naturalizations from all States and Territories, and from all courts (Federal, State, and local). INS maintains an index to the C-Files, and can retrieve individual records based on name, date of birth, and place of birth. C-Files from 1906 to 1956 have been microfilmed, and are available via Freedom of Information/Privacy Act request to INS Headquarters in Washington, D.C.

You can get the form here:
http://uscis.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/g-639.htm

You should provide the INS with the following information about the person whose Naturalization record you are requesting...
Name
Date of Birth
Place of Birth (at least the Country)
Residence (where the person was living when Naturalized -- city or county & state)
If the person was born less than 100 years ago you must provide proof of death or, if the person is still living, you must provide notorized permission from the living person to obtain the records
If the person was born more than 100 years ago you do not need to provide proof of death
found this on http://genforum.com Immigrants Forum
2007/12/24, 02:12:08
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mike chappie: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Thankyou again you are literally a wealth of information. Do you do genealogy research for a fee?
2007/12/24, 03:03:52
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Your welcome.
This is a hobby. I go on Ancestry, Genforum, this board and few others to help out with what I know.
I know of a few in Slovak Republic that I can recommend if it turns out that your roots are from there.
2007/12/24, 03:49:09
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
2007/12/24, 03:51:45
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
2007/12/24, 03:51:46
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
2007/12/24, 03:51:47
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Actually I could probably use those in Slovakia. My grandmother was Czech, but spoke Slovak. I guess her family lived in Slovakia before they emigrated to US.
2007/12/24, 03:56:24
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Zlatica : Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
Mike

Your grandmother was not Czech if she spoke Slovak. The word Czech is a new term. Up to 1918 the term Bohemia, Moravia was used for the present Czech Republic.
Is that the JANKANICS ancestor? If yes, than I would say that CSEPA is from within 10 miles radius.
Chech out www.pavlovics.com www.cisarik.com
2007/12/24, 04:05:28
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
I might want to use those researchers when I do my grandmothers side of the family. She was a Czech, but she spoke Slovak. I guess her family spent some time is Slovakia before emigrating to US.
2007/12/24, 05:39:25
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mike: Re: CSEPA, JANKANICS
I believe her surname was Sandras.
2007/12/24, 05:49:07
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Zlatica : Re: SANDRAS
Best to put the new surname of research in the subject line, I think. How sure are you about the spelling? You know where she was born?
2007/12/24, 05:56:04
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mike: Re: MARY SANDRAS
Pretty sure that is the spelling I have one of those printed cards from a funeral home somewhere , but cant locate it at the moment.
2007/12/24, 06:01:24
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Zlatica : Re: MARY SANDRAS
This could be an "Americanized" spelling of her surname just like Mary is a Maria in old country.
2007/12/24, 06:08:15
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mike: Re:MARY SANDRAS
I do not know the town were Mary was born.
2007/12/24, 06:34:20
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mike: Re: MARY SANDRAS
Does your husband have any relatives still in the Pittsburgh area?
2007/12/24, 06:36:53
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Zlatica: Re: MARY SANDRAS
Both of our grandfathers are deceased. No relatives in Pa.
What was Mary's married name?
2007/12/24, 06:43:50
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mike: Re: MARY SANDRAS
Mary's married name was Chappie, may have been Chippie before they changed it to Chappie.
2007/12/24, 06:55:24
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Zlatica : Re: MARY SANDRAS
That is her Americanized spelling of a CSEPA. CHAPPIE or CHIPPIE you will not find it as such in Hungary or in Slovak Republic.
We can carry on privately, off the board, if you like.
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2007/12/24, 07:16:49
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