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Dojcsák Edit: makói Dojcsákok
Kedves Mindenki,

a makói kárpitos Dojcsák család Dojcsák Józseftől (apai dédapámtól) származik (felesége Bódi Ida volt). Nincs már élő gyermekük. A nevet egyedül másodunokatestvérem, Dojcsák Tamás viszi tovább.
Keressük a család tagjait, akiknek családfájában ismerős Dojcsák József neve.

Dojcsák Edit
2005/11/21, 18:09:38
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cottontail50
Looking for any information on or about the family of John/Janos Dojcsak.. He was born 01-06-1884 (Austria(?) Hungary. That is what I seen on his green card. I would like to find out any information on family/relitives of my grandfather. And I speak no hungarian (just bits and pieces from my father).
2006/07/16, 23:16:49
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Zlatica : Dojcsak
cottontail50

You need a precise place of birth. Green card? You still have it? Then he was not naturalized citizen? Did he have social security numbers? http://ssdi.rootsweb.com A size of Austria-Hungary at the time of your ancestor's birth: http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/authung.htm
I do believe that there is a DOJCAK surname Ancestry board.
Take a look in Ellis Island website. www.ellisislandrecords.org You just might find him there.
2006/07/16, 23:35:57
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cottontail50: Re: Dojcsak
I don't have his precise place of birth, that is what I am trying to find family for. My father never had the chance to know his father as he died three months after his birth in Connellsville, Pa.. The green card I have scanned and is in my family files. He never received a social security number nor was he naturalized. I realize that I am pulling at long strings, but I know I will find my father's family... With help out there and God's.
2006/07/17, 21:10:16
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Zlatica : Re: Dojcsak
cottontail50

How about the church your father was baptized and his parents were married in? Someplace there has to be a place of birth mentioned. Since you say not naturalized there should be a G-639 (or something close) Alien Registration Form for you to look into.
Unfortunately the "green card" as well as naturalization certificate only gives a name of a country.
Any obituary? You have looked thru the 1930 census and for sure he was not naturalized? I suppose not since you have his green card. Try to locate his manifest. He could have come thru Ellis Island, Boston, Philadelphia or Baltimore.
2006/07/17, 21:21:28
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cottontail50: Re: Dojcsak
The information that I have gotten from my searching is:

My father’s birth certificate which has his fathers’ name, age and town they lived in at that time. Prior to moving to the United States my grandparents live in a place called “Borchast (Menji)” when they were first married, which was given to me by my aunt prior to her passing. I have tried to do some research there but I have a problem not speaking Hungarian. I noticed last night that the Ellis Island site has up dated again and possible found a “last residence” of where ?my grandparents lived. It’s called “Lzimagessenyo, Hungary.” Searching the age of this gentleman it could possible by my grandfather due to the age when my father was born. I have a number of churches that “could” be where my grandparents went, but my father’s baptism was at the Immaculate Conception Church. I am not sure if it is Catholic or Orthodox Catholic.
I have also been given some information on possible my grandmother’s family “Gibarti” in “Sarisske Jastrabie” (now the Slovak Republic).

The hardest part of this is my entire father’s side is deceased, and when I wanted information it was told we didn’t need to know that sort of thing. I am the only one in the family that was pushy enough to get what I did. I guess I have opened “Pandora’s box” and I want to know more.
Thanks for helping me. I hope this leads to more finds. And will the responses be in English all the time?
2006/07/17, 22:02:48
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Zlatica : Re: Dojcsak
Cottontail50

You do have a place of birth after all except that it is misspelled. Correct: Borsod megye, Szirmabesenyo, Hungary.
An old map: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
I do believe that someone on the DORCAK board posted with the same place of birth.
Now for the good news: DOJCSAK does list in Szirmabesenyo's phone book. www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
The LDS-Mormons website is listing Roman Catholic church records of Szirmabesenyo.
I am in USA.
2006/07/17, 22:18:40
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kezdi: Re: Dojcsak
cottontail50

“Borchast (Menji)”=Borsod (Megye)=County

“Lzimagessenyo, Hungary.”=Szirmabesenyő, Borsod Megye, Hungary

Type in 'szirmabesenyo' at Radix homepage for details:
"Search places in the 1913 gazetteer of Hungary!"

I set the crosshair on Szirmabesenyő on this present day map of Hungary:
http://www.terkepcentrum.hu/index.asp?go=mapszarvashu2&sx=1000&sy=1000&ex=4785&ey=1051&tertip=szarvashu2

You can search 'szirmabesenyo' Church and Civil records at LDS/FamilySearch.org - Family History Library Catalog
http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Joseph
2006/07/17, 22:49:29
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Zlatica : Re: Gibarti
cottontail50

I clicked on your profile and found that your DOJCSAK ancestor was married to a GIBARTI.
Checked in Ellis Island website and there a GIBARTI Juli from Sz. Bessenyo; GIBARTI Andras from Sz. Bessenyo; and GIBARTI Andras(ne) (Mrs. Andras) from Sziomabesnyo (sp?).
Followed up in the Szirmabesenyo's phone book and for sure a GIBARTI Miklosne in the phone book.
Andrasne GIBARTI was traveling with Istvan and Andras DOJCSAK.
2006/07/18, 03:51:28
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Christine: Dojcak Surname
I have a Stephen Dojcak, my Great Grandfather, who migrated to the US in March 1905 from Gajary, Czech Republic. He went to Chicago, Illinois. His Father's name was John and mother's, Maria Hasprunar. Stephen was born on Jun 18, 1876 in Gajary. He married Veronica Machata/Macha. She was born in 1885. They married in 1902 in Gajary. I am looking for any information on these people. I suspect Stephen had a brother Jozsef, b. 1880 who arrived to the US in Jan 1905. I don't have any proof they are brothers, but could be. Thanks in advance for any information you can give me.
2008/10/21, 13:56:42
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Zlatica : Re: Dojcak Surname
Christine

In 1905 it was Gajar, Pozsony megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 After the fall of A-H http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm several new countries were formed and one was Czechoslovakia (2 nationalities/ 2 languages) and thus Gajary, Czechoslovakia,(never in Czech Republic) since 1993 Gajary, Slovakia/Slovak Republic.
An ALL site research:
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
few others:
www.cgsi.org
www.iarelative.com
www.helenezx.homestead.com
SK's phone book: www.zoznamst.sk
www.gajary.sk
2008/10/21, 15:03:22
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Zlatica : Re: Dojcak Surname
Christine

found in Ellis Island. www.ellisislandrecords.org
Dojcah, Maria Gajar
Dojcah, Yeroniha Gajar
Hasprunar, Adam Gajar, Hungary
Hasprunar, Alvisia Gajas, Hungary
Haszprunar, Mathias Gajar, Hungary
Honprunas, Beta Gajar, Hungary
Machata, Valentin Gajar
Mahata, Andreas Gajar
Mahata, Andreas Gajar
Mahata, Antonia Gajar
Mahata, Elisabeth Gajar
Mahata, Mathias Gajar
Machata, Franziska Dajar ,
Dojcsak, Anna Zavod
Dojcsak, August Zavod
Dojcsak, Zuzanna Zavod
The town of Zavod is North-East of Gajary.
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker.loctown.htm
2008/10/22, 01:11:36
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Darina: Re: Dojcak Surname

My Grandfather was Alojz Hasprunar DOB: 11/22/1924 from Gajary. My father was Alojz Hasprunar Jr. from Gajary. Not sure if it helps. If you want more info. feel free to e-mail me at darilee1161 -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo.com -p-o-n-t-
2009/04/30, 23:09:46
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Tanker21: Janos Dojcsak
I know that this blog is old, but I just stumbled across it. The request from cottontail50 caught my eye. The name Dojcsak Janos is the name of my grandfather’s god father . I suspect that the person cottontail50 is referring to is a different person since my grandfather ( Konderak Istvan)was born June 20, 1895 and his god parents I am told were his aunt and uncle from his mothers side of the family. I was told that all of the family and friends from Szirmabesenyo that came to live in the US first settled in Bernardstown (SP?) NJ. Many later moved to Connellsville, PA and then sort of dispersed from there. My family lived in both places and eventually settled about the area within a 60 mile radius of Pittsburgh. I have been to Szirmabesenyo and there are people named Dojscak still living there. If you like I could ask my cousin Joli if she could find the ones we are related to.
2010/03/26, 13:19:24
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luvintr: Re: Janos Dojcsak
So, I'm new to this family history thing, but I have family from Szirmabesenyo, last name Joscsak. It seems that everyone had the same 5-6 first names so it gets confusing. The records I have found so far show my Joscsak ancestors moving in 1900 and 1901 to both Bernardstown and Connellsville (they stayed there and there is now family in Jeannette, PA). So, in my English speaking mind Joscsak is close to Dojcsak. Are they close and should I be looking for a link here?
2010/06/25, 00:50:46
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Tanker21: Re: Janos Dojcsak
As to Joscsak being a variant of Dojcsak I have no way of knowing. My own name of
Condor is derived from Konderak so I guess anything is possible. The places and timeline of your family movement exactly mirror my own family and apparently several other families from Szirmabessenyo. It seems likely to me that family and friends from the village made a concerted effort to stay somewhat together for at least one generation.
2010/06/25, 13:58:56
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Michael: For Darina
Dear Darina,

I have interesting news for you regarding Alojz Hasprunar but I wasn't able to decode your e-mail-address. Here's a picture from Gajary cemetary I took today. It seems that your grandmother is still alive.

Best regards,

Michael

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2010/08/14, 19:27:21
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Michael: For Darina
Dear Darina,

I have interesting news for you regarding Alojz Hasprunar but I wasn't able to decode your e-mail-address. Here's a picture from Gajary cemetary I took today. It seems that your grandmother is still alive.

Best regards,

Michael

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2010/08/14, 19:28:17
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tonync1221: Cottontail50
I too am looking for information regarding my grandmother. I have very little information to go on. Her name was Anna Dojcak. She married John Zamborski in the Pittsburgh area. She was born on 3/22/1897 and died on 9/29/1940. Her mothers maiden name was Mary Vanjo. I do not know what her fathers first name was. The Vanjo side of the family was from the Presov area of Slovakia.
2011/01/03, 16:55:01
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Zlatica : Re: DOJCAK, ZAMBORSKI
tonync1221

Some of her US documents should have her place of birth and her parents names. The state marriage application and church marriage record should have her place of birth and parents names.

An ALL site for research in Slovakia [you might know about]
www.iabsi.com/gen/public
Have you posted on Slovak Republic Ancestry and Genforum board?

DOJCAK in these locations in 1995 in Slovakia:
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=dojcak&c=d595
ZAMBORSKY:
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=zamborsky&s=exact&c=Vdf6&d=kssj4&d=psp&d=scs&d=sss&d=peciar&d=ma&d=hssjV&d=obce&d=priezviska&d=un&d=locutio&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8
No VANJO unless it is VANYO - VAN^O
http://slovniky.korpus.sk/?w=vano&c=Y9a1&d=priezviska&d=ma&d=hssjV&d=obce&d=locutio&d=sss&d=un&d=kssj4&d=peciar&d=psp&d=scs
2011/01/03, 17:34:54
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Tom Moore: Re: Janos Dojcsak
Aloha,
My mother's family were Magyars from Smirnobsenyo, Hungary and lived in Bernardsville N.J. They Americanized the family name to Dochak. About 20 years ago I was in Budapest and the concierge in my hotel contacted an official in Smirnobesyno who said many families there were named Dojcsak. Sadly I have never been able to follow up.

Many Hungarians live in Bernardsville. Often they came to Jersey to work in the Paterson silk mills(where my mother was born). Then they moved to Bernardsville and worked on the large estates of NYC based industrialists and brokers.

I have names and data of my family members andalittle info about some members in Smirnobesnyo. If anyone is interested,send me an email.
Tom Moore
Lanikai, Oahu, Hawaii
tom -k-u-k-a-c- troptel -p-o-n-t- com
2011/08/03, 05:43:32
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Zlatica : Re: Janos Dojcsak
Aloha

Dojcsak, Andras Szxirmabesenyo, Hungary 37 1875
Dojcsak, Andras Sziomabesnyo, Hungary 31 1878 1909
Dojcsak, Andras S. Bossenyo 26 1876 1902
Dojcsak, Andras Szirma Cessenyo 27 1871 1898
Dojcsak, Anna Szirmabesenyo, Hungary 23 1900 1923
Dojcsak, Istvan Sziomabesnyo, Hungary 38 1871 1909
Dojcsak, Istvan Szirina Besenyo, Hungary 40 1869 1909
Dojcsak, Janos Lzimagessenyo, Hungary 28 1884 1912
Dojcsak, Janos Spirinabesengo, Hungary 16 1896 1912
Dojcsak, Janos Sz. Bessengo 38 1868 1906
Dojcsak, Maria Spirinabessenyo, Hungary 26 1882 1908
Variety of spelling/transcribing errors of a location Szirmabesenyő, Borsod megye, Hungary found on www.ellisislandrecords.org site.

DOJCSAKs still in Szirmabesenyo's phone book
www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
2011/08/03, 14:54:41
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Tom Moore: Re: Janos Dojcsak
Aloha,
In my post of 03/08/2011 I see that my e-mail address is
incorrect. If anyone wishes to discuss Dojcsaks or other Magyars in Bernardsville,N.J. please contact me at:
tom -k-u-k-a-c- troptel -p-o-n-t- com

Tom Moore
Hawaii USA
2011/08/22, 03:14:51
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Chris: Re: Dojcsak
My grandfather’s god father was Andras Dojcsak who was the husband of my grandfathers aunt. Grandpa came from Szirmabesenyo, Hungary. His family first settled in Bernardsville (sp?)NJ and then moved on to Connellsville, Pa (around 1910-1914) and afterwards to New Kensington Area. Seeing as how they started out in the same village and ended up 3000 miles away in the same small town I would imagine they were at least family friends.
2011/09/13, 14:24:13
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