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	JFELZAN: Searching for information on Felzan relatives My grandfather and grandmother were ethnic Slovaks who emigrated to the United States from Hungary. From Ellis Island records I have learned that my grandfather arrived in America on April 13, 2000 at the age of 25. He is listed on the ship manifest as Janos Felczan. He later used the name Jan Felcan and later still used the spelling Felzan. My grandmother's maiden name was Berta Gerka. She came to America to marry my grandfather, arriving on March 17, 1905. She was 26 years old. I believe that my grandparents were from Tot Prona even though their Ellis Island records just show Hungary as the last place of residence for my grandfather and show Germany as the last place of residence for my grandmother. I make the assumption about Tot Prona because there were three males named Felcsan who arrived on the same ship as my grandmother. They are listed as all from Tot Prona. I believe that two of these individuals were my grandfather's older brothers (I know that he was the youngest of a number of siblings), and the third male would appear from his age (16)to be one of the other's son. There are a number of other individuals with the name Felcsan who arrive at various time. They are virtually all from Tot Prona. My father wrote in a letter once that he thought his father's family (i.e., my great grandfather) had some prominence in local politics. My grandfather belonged to a Slovak Luthern church in Chicago, so I assume this was the religion that he was brought up in. Any information would be most interesting and appreciated. Jill Felzan		2005/05/14, 23:00:54 #: 200505506 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives Jill The town of TotProna is now Slovenske Pravno, Slovak Republic. To locate TotProna go to http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 and click on Turocz megye. The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) website is listing church records of Slovenske Pravno. You can order them and gather ancestral information. www.bmi.net/jjaso to familiarize yourself with church wording. Check out this site before you get started. www.iabsi.com/gen/public The town of Slovenske Pravno's phone book is listing the surname FELCAN(OVA) in a female form. www.zoznamst.sk Surname GERKA does list in the phone book but not in this area code. http://mapy.atlas.sk for locating the town or use www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm Janos Felczan would be Hungarian spelling for Jan Felcan which is Slovak. Using One Step to locate an EI manifest there were 98 people from Totprona. www.jewishgen.org/databases/EIDB/ellis.html www.our-slovakia.com www.spectacularslovakia.sk www.slovaklinks.com www.village.sk www.iarelative.com		2005/05/15, 00:19:01 #: 200505512 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives Jill I would recommend that you locate another piece of paper to substantiate the name of a village. If your ancestor had social security numbers http://ssdi.rootsweb.com or was naturalized citizen than those forms would have a name of a town. If not naturalized but lived pass 1940 than there is an Alien Registration Form to request. Did your GERKA ancestor come thru Ellis Island? If yes, under what spelling?		2005/05/15, 02:55:49 #: 200505517 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	JFELZAN: Thank you for so much help and support I have received many wonderful e-mails since I first posted yesterday about my grandparents. I will answer and thank you individually, but just wanted right away to express my thanks and appreciation. It is so wonderful to have these leads, and to know a little bit about the world my grandparents grew up in. My grandparents died fairly early in my childhood, but they left such a warmth of memory that it is very wonderful to come in contact with them a little in this way. Thank you. Jill Felzan		2005/05/15, 20:03:18 #: 200505548 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	JFELZAN: Grandmother's name is Gurka I mistakenly said in my original post that my grandmother's name was Berta Gerka. That was a slip of the keyboard. It was actually Berta Gurka. Jill		2005/05/15, 20:07:03 #: 200505549 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	JFELZAN: My grandparents returned to Slovakia for a period of time When my father was a baby, my grandparents made a trip back to Slovakia taking along their two children, Maria, who was three and my father who was only a year old. They returned on May 9, 1911. My father once mentioned to me that he had been taken to Slovakia when he was a baby. It seemed quite amazing to me. He did not say anything about why they went or what they did there. I assume my grandfather went to visit his mother and other relatives. Also, I'm wondering if his heritage was not at least partly Jewish, since the only time I have seen the name as we spell it is in a Jewish context.		2005/05/15, 20:21:45 #: 200505550 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Grandmother's name is Gurka Jill That explains why I could not find your ancestor under Gerka. As you might know,the surname GURKA does exist in SK's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk Her last place of residence is Hermany which is Hermanovce, Saris region, Slovak Republic.		2005/05/16, 03:55:45 #: 200505555 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: My grandparents returned to Slovakia for a period of time Jill You know that there are surnames that are Jewish as well and Christian and then some that are strickly one or the other. Keep in mind the different spelling but so similar pronounciation.		2005/05/16, 04:03:34 #: 200505556 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Jill,: Re: Grandmother's name is Gurka		2005/05/16, 05:43:29 #: 200505557 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	kezdi: Re: Grandmother's name is Gurka, ORIGINAL SHIP MANIFEST Jill Dear, I would like to point out to you a very important fact, Ellis Island Databases are FULL of mistakes. You have to check everything, and one way is to open and study the copy of the handwritten Original Ship Manifest. In my previous posts to you at Felcsan I was just calling it Manifest, thinking you know what I was talking about. But since you didn't answered my posts, and seeing that you're not aware of the mistakes in Berta Gurka Passenger record, I again emphasize and urge you to look for the Original Ship Manifest a.k.a. View Original Manifest link, open it and study it very carefully. Let me know if you need help with it. In short, the mistakes the transcriber made from Berta 1905 Original Manifest to the typed Text Version Manifest are as follows: Berta last place of residence wasn't Germany, but Hermany, Hungary. Her ethnicity was German, not Slovak, with other words she was German Hungarian from Hermany, born in Beszterczebánya, Hungary (the last one is from Berta 1911 Original Ship Manifest). When studying the Original Ship Manifest, you'll see how the mistakes were made, the person who did it must blinked at the wrong time. The same applies to my previous posts I made to you at Felcsan, the Original Ship Manifest has MUCH MUCH much more information than the Passenger Record or the Text Version Manifest. Good luck, and let me know if you found it. Joseph		2005/05/16, 06:39:57 #: 200505559 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Jan Felcan: Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives Jill, My name is Jan Felcan I was born in Chicago in 1955. My Grandfather was named Jan Felcan as well. My Father was Emil Felcan born in Chicago in 1919. Who is your father? we are somehow related.		2005/05/19, 20:32:18 #: 200505717 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Jan Felcan: Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives Jill, My niece has done a lot of research on our family her name is Aubrey (Felcan) Mahoney. She has used the internet to get info so if you look for her request you should be able to get her E-Mail address. Maybe you two could compare notes and we can see how we may be related. good luck Jan Felcan		2005/05/20, 02:12:14 #: 200505723 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Michael Olson: Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives I have a Maria Gurka in my family tree. She was born in 1834 in the village of Javorina, Slovakia. She married Matej Schlachtic born 1829 and he is also from Javorina. Might be a place to start. Mike		2007/09/12, 00:07:50 #: 200709445 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Gurka, Schlachtic Michael GURKA and S^L^ACHTIC^ in SK but none in Javorina/Tatranska Javorina. www.zoznamst.sk		2007/09/12, 00:15:12 #: 200709446 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Donna Freeze: Re: Searching for information on Felzan relatives OK, this is strange. My grandmother was Maria Felcan. She was born (in about 1885 or so) in Slovenske Pravno, and came to the US in 1903. She married John Stencel, lived in Chicago all her life and was a member of Trinity Slovak Lutheran Church. To my knowledge, my grandmother had only one brother, but I do not think he ever came to the US. He had red hair, I am told. To my knowledge, her entire family stayed in Slovenske Pravno. My mother tells me that she seldom spoke about her family. So many "coincidences" that we must be connected in some way, but how?		2008/01/12, 02:11:43 #: 200801936 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

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