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Hodermarszky: ancestor search
My grandmother and her sisters came to America through Ellis Island in the early 1900's. Their home in Hungary is listed as Szigliget. Names are Irma, Hermina, Aranka Hodermarszky. Their father was Eduardus Emericus Hodermarszky and he was baptised in Spisske Vlacey (Szepesolaszi)in 1854. His wife was Anna Bernatyak baptised in Udol 1859. I have reason to believe Anna and Ede are buried in Szadalmaison

Can you tell me how to find out more about them?
2007/10/29, 04:53:57
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ferrero: Re: ancestor search
Hi,

i know nothing about your family ,but I wanna tell you, that Spisske Vlacey is correctly Spisske Vlachy, before Szepesolaszi. This city is in Slovakia - Slovak Republic, not in Hungary - check This webpage: http://hu.wikipedia.org/wiki/Szepesolaszi
or this:
http://www.spisskevlachy.sk/

I live about 50 km from this city.

If you wanna know something more, contact me.

Ferrero
2007/10/29, 09:07:48
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Zlatica : Re: ancestor search
Hodermarszky

I do not find a village Szadalmaison but a Szadalmas, Abau-Torna megye, Hungary now Jablonov nad Turnou, Slovak Republic
Szigliget, Zala megye, Hungary.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
2007/10/29, 16:45:39
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Tóth Elek: Hodermarszky
A Hodermarszky név gyakori volt a görög katolikusok között. Néhény pap neve:
HODERMÁRSZKY GYÖRGY
Működési helyei:
1792 Szigetbölzse paróchus

HODERMÁRSZKY JÁNOS MU
Működési helyei:
1792 Orló paróchus

HODERMÁRSZKY JÓZSEF (OSBM)
( - Munkács, 1729.02.29.)

HODERMÁRSZKY MIHÁLY
Működési helyei:
1792 Szeszta paróchus

HODERMÁRSZKY PROKOPIJ (OSMB)
( - Berezna, 1925.04.20.)
2007/10/29, 23:07:55
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Zlatica : Re: DUSEK
Hi

Stefan DUSEK from Laminac, Croatia
www.croatia-in-english.com
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm to locate a town.
www.travelingluck.com
2007/10/31, 05:20:21
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Zlatica : Re: Dusek, Dusik
Hi

Just so you know, in Slovak Republic's phone book www.zoznamst.sk a surname DUSIK, DUS'AK, DUS'EK. YOu need to locate his precise place of birth. The church records are a way to go with the research.
2007/10/31, 18:11:24
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kezdi: Re: ancestor search
Hi, Ref. to post #: 2007101648 on 29/10/2007, 04:53:57

Checking the EllisIsland Original Shipping Manifest of Irma Hodermarszky I've noticed, that Szigliget was transcribed mistakenly. The correct placename is actually Szögliget, Abauj-Torna County, Hungary, see the corrected Passenger Record below.
Her closest relative in Hungary shown sister Kaszas Kalmanne=Mrs.Kalman Kaszas in Szögliget.
Her destination was sister Hodermarszky Hermina in Bridgeport.
Her birthplace is shown what looks like Varanocserne, which could be Varrano-Csemernye/ aka Csemernye in the old Hungarian Zemplen County/ today in Slovakia. Is this placename sounds familiar to you? I just happened to handle that particular town, I copied here the Gr.Church Records location at LDS/FHLC:

1819-1895 Greek Catholic parish registers of baptisms, marriages and deaths for Čemerné, Slovakia, formerly Csemernye, Zemplén, Hungary (also called Varannó-Csemernye). Includes Juskova Vol'a, Slovakia, formerly Juszkó-Volya, Zemplén, Hungary; Vranov, Slovakia, formerly Varannó, Zemplén, Hungary and Vechec, Slovakia, formerly Vehécz, Zemplén, Hungary. Text in Hungarian, Latin and Ruthenian.

Krstení 1831-1863 Sobášení 1831-1862 Zomrelí 1832-1860 Krstení 1875-1891 FHL INTL Film
1792039 Items 5-6
Krstení 1891-1894 Krstení 1864-1874 Sobášení 1862-1891 Zomrelí 1861-1895 Krstení 1895 Sobášení 1892-1895 JUSKOVA VOLʹA Krstení 1819-1830 Sobášení 1819-1830 Zomrelí 1819-1829 FHL INTL Film
1792020 Items 1-4
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You can find Csemernye as V.Csemernye in Zemplen County blue colored Varannó(i) District marked with a number 12 in the middle, on these early 1900s County Maps of Hungary: http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/vmlista.htm
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Passenger Record:

First Name: Irma
Last Name: Hodermarszky
Ethnicity: Hungary, Magyar
Last Place of Residence: Szigliget=(corr. Szögliget), Hungary
Date of Arrival: Feb 09, 1911
Age at Arrival: 18y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Roon
Port of Departure: Bremen
Manifest Line Number: 0009

Hope this helps, I'll try to check the other Shipping Records.
Joseph
2007/10/31, 20:51:57
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kezdi: Re: ancestor search
Hi again,
Ref. to Post #: 2007101825 on 31/10/2007, 20:51:57

Hermina Hodermarszky name was also mistranscribed at EllisIsland.org:

Passenger record:

First Name: Hermina
Last Name: Hadermarsky=(corr. Hodermarszky)
Ethnicity: Hungary, Magyar
Last Place of Residence: Torna Gorgs=(corr.Gorgo), Hungary
Date of Arrival: Jul 18, 1907
Age at Arrival: 21y Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Ultonia
Port of Departure: Fiume
Manifest Line Number: 0008


Her birthplace also shown as Tornagörgő, Abauj-Torna County, Hungary, today called Hrhov in Slovakia.

I'll keep looking for the others.
Joseph
2007/10/31, 21:19:07
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kezdi: Re: ancestor search
Re.: to Post #: 200710182731/10/2007 on 21:19:07

At EllisIsland Arankas birthplace also shown as Szogliget, same as Irmas. LDS/FHLC has the R.Cath. Church records: http://www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

Roman Catholic parish register of births, marriages and deaths for Szögliget.
Kereszteltek, házasultak, halottak 1788-1895 VAULT INTL Film 623463

In case they practiced in different religion, the records are under Barakony for Gr.Cath. and Szin for Ref'd Calvinist.


Passenger Record:

First Name: Aranka
Last Name: Hodermarszki (note: in Hungarian the name endings y and i has the same meaning and interchangable in families too)
Ethnicity: Hungary
Last Place of Residence: Szogliget, Hungary
Date of Arrival: Feb 04, 1910
Age at Arrival: 24 Gender: F Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Pannonia
Port of Departure: Fiume
Manifest Line Number: 0003
2007/11/01, 07:24:16
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kezdi: Re: ancestor search
Correction to Post #: 2007115 on 01/11/2007, 07:24:16

"At EllisIsland Arankas birthplace also shown as Szogliget, same as Irmas." This should read: At EllisIsland Arankas last place of residence in Hungary also shown as Szogliget, same as Irmas.
Irmas b.place of course shown as Varanocserne.

2007/11/01, 15:29:21
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Mag_Ton: Films
I have the Roman Catholic film of Szogliget if you need a look-up .
2009/05/27, 22:54:27
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Hodermarszky: Re: Films
Hello,

Thank you for your offer. I don't know for sure where my grandmother and her sisters were born but Szogliget is listed as my grandmothers home before coming to America. If you could look up her name and her sisters I would very much appreciate any information you can find. I especially want to know her mother's name. I have heard various names from different sources.

Thank you for any help you can give me.

Ginny Rafferty

Aranka Hodermarszky born about 1888
Hermina Hodermarszky born about 1886 (left from Tonagogo)
Irma Hodermarszky born about 1893

Irene was the oldest but I don't have a date for her.
2009/05/31, 17:33:27
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Magda: Re: Films
I go there next week . It is not indexed but because there are so many sisters , I will take a peek around that time period . I have to combed through it anyway so this gives me double incentives ! I also have the 1869 census for Szogliget . Did you do that yet ??
2009/05/31, 20:09:38
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Hodermarszky: Re: Films
I have not seen any census for Hungary or Slovakia. I don't think my great grandparents were in Szogliget in 1869 but one never knows what might be found. Just in case you reun across these names let me know.

Eduard Hodermasky born Spisske Vachy (Olaszy) in 1854. I know he was a school teacher and organist for the catholic church.He moved around a lot with his family.

Anna Maria Matilda Bernatyak was born in 1859 in Udol

I have reason to believe that Eduard and Anna are buried in Szadalmason.
2009/05/31, 20:36:07
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Hodermarszky: Re: Films
One more thought. My grandmother Aranka came to america in 1910 from Szogliget. Her father Eduard died about 10 years earlier. Perhaps there is a record of him being an organist in the church around 1900.

I want to thank you again for your responses. I haven't done anything with my search since my husband died a year ago so even if you don't find anything you have rekindled my interest in the search.

Thanks,
Ginny
2009/05/31, 20:41:52
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M.M.: HODERMARSZKI in Jabloncza
Hi - Do you have my email address ?? I found a HODERMARSZKI marriage with names of both parents in 1871 in Jabloncza Hungarian Reformed this afternoon on film #1924854

2009/06/17, 01:19:22
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hodermarszky: Re: HODERMARSZKI in Jabloncza
Please send your e-mail address. Mine is raffertyv -k-u-k-a-c- atlanticbb.net -p-o-n-t- Thank you so much. What are the exact names in the record?
2009/06/18, 01:02:58
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hodermarszky: Re: HODERMARSZKI in Jabloncza
raffertyv -k-u-k-a-c- atlanticbb -p-o-n-t- net

the address didn't look right in the post

You know the at sign in an address
2009/06/18, 01:05:10
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altwien1: Re: Films
Hi!
My name is Istvan, from Kolozsvár, Romania. I have an origin from Olaszi (Szepesolaszi)-Vlachy. Are you interested about the Fink, or Lang names from Vlachy? Becouse my They where From Szepesolaszi and Szepesbéla.
István
altwien1 -k-u-k-a-c- pannongsm -p-o-n-t- hu
2009/06/18, 18:04:03
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Zsuzsanna Barta Tamas: Re: Films
Tornagörgő is now lokated in slovakia Hrhov by the Hungarian border.Go back before 1920 maps .After 1920 slovakization took place.
2010/04/18, 17:47:59
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Zsuzsanna Barta Tamas: Re: Films
Tornagörgő is now lokated in slovakia Hrhov by the Hungarian border.Go back before 1920 maps .After 1920 slovakization took place.
2010/04/18, 17:48:19
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oneworld2020: Re: ancestor search
If you are still interested, my family came from that same small town in Slovakia
2010/07/30, 00:05:37
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