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	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Kalas Surname origin Khwarezmia http://www.namweb.com.na/mwk/wiki.phtml?title=Khwarizm According to Biruni the area was ruled by the Afrigid dynasty from the 4th-8th centuries. The resurgent kingdom was established around Khiva in 410CE by Avar tribes possibly under Hephthalites influence. The inhabitants were called Khwalis or Kaliz by the Magyars after the eastern-most Kabars of Hungary, who dwelt in Carpathian Galicia. They were also called Khalisioi in Greek, Khvalis (and often associated with Khazars) in Russian and HuaLaZiMu(or perhaps Kua-Li & Ho-li-sih-mi-kia) in Chinese. The etymology of the name is unknown but may pertain to a kingdom of the Aral sea or Hua people. Thank you Gujar Kalas (Pakistan) Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik. Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!		2004/08/30, 17:23:23 #: 200408637 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas, Kaliz Surname origin káliz A magyarországi muszlimok egy részére vonatkozó elnevezés eredetileg a mai Üzbegisztán területén egykor létezett államalakulat, Hvárezm lakóit jelölte. Hvárezmet a 8. század elején hódították meg az arabok, elterjesztve egyúttal az iszlámot is. A muszlim hvárezmiek egy része ezt követően rajzott ki a Kazár Birodalom területére és Kelet-Európa más vidékeire. A magyarországi kálizok részint még a honfoglalás előtt, részint azt követően csatlakoztak a magyarokhoz. A 13. század derekától eltűnnek forrásainkból, emléküket a Kalász, Kálózd, Káloz helynevek őrzik.		2004/08/30, 19:23:51 #: 200408645 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	AlexanderIII: Re: Kalas Surname origin Gujar Kalas, I believe you are probably related to the Kalas tribe of the Hindu Kush. The tribe is descended from Alexander the Greats men who were left behind, either as a garrison or they were not healthy enough to keep up the pace that Alexander kept. Today the Kalas still worship the 12 Olympian Gods, they have 'basically unchanged' the same clothing, housing, music, traditions and language as the Macedonian Greeks(a dialect of Dorian Greek mixed with sanscrit, persian and some local languages). Only 3000 or so of the tribe survives in 30 villages. I am not certain if you are still part of the tribe, but if you are not here is a little information that will help you. The Kalas around a 100 years ago numbered close to 100,000 now the number is much lower due to the pressures to join the cosmopolitan lifestyle. Over the years most have turned to Islam due to these pressures or they wanted to. Their arable land is small and much of it has been taken away by the stronger Muslim communities around them. There is a group of Greeks who are called "The Friends of the Kalas" who recently built a school for them and are trying to purchase tractors and other farming equipment to help them and their culture survive. The Kalas are important to the Greeks anthropologically because they are the closest examples of how the ancient Greeks lived. I have tried to find more information on the internet but have had very little luck. I know there is also another tribe that lives in the Hindu Kush on the Afghanistan side that are also descended from the men of Alexander. If you would like to contact me concerning more information on the subject feel free to contact me at greek1370 -k-u-k-a-c- hotmail -p-o-n-t- com		2005/01/06, 01:07:05 #: 200501210 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas Surname origin AlexanderIII, I believe you are getting mixed up with the Kalash Kafirs who are different to the Kalas(Kalis), Kasan (Central Asia) and Cheshi (Turfan, China) Gujars. The Gujars are of Yueh-Chih (Yuezhi) origin mixed with Huns. see following articles: Ferenc Zajti (b. 1886, d. 1961) http://www.hoppmuzeum.hu/eng/zajti.php Investigation of the Greek ancestry of northern Pakistani ethnic groups using Y chromosomal DNA variation: http://hgm2002.hgu.mrc.ac.uk/Abstracts/Publish/WorkshopPosters/WorkshopPoster11/hgm0533.htm (Also see attached picture) Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik. Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!		2005/01/06, 23:41:06 #: 200501265 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	AlexanderIII: Re: Kalas Surname origin Hi Gujar, Thank you for the Chromosomal information and clearing up some confusion. I have seen two different spellings for the Kalash the second "Kalas". I assumed it was the same just a different spelling or pronunciation. On several websites I have seen the spelling "Kalas" and talking about the Greeks who call themselves "The friends of the Kalas". I have always heard of the Kalash. I suppose since the Greek language doesn't have an "sh" sound they just spelled it without and "H", thus starting the confusion. I was very interested in the Y chromosomal report though. I helped clear up a lot for an argument between the Greeks and the Albanians. James Morgan		2005/01/07, 22:39:00 #: 200501288 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Barbara Kalas: Re: Kalas Surname origin I was very interested in your web site some years ago. I am trying to find the origin of my grandfather. He was Joseph Kalas. On his mothers death certfdcate he signed it Kalash. My Kouba relaiuves in Prague, say Kalas is pronounced wjith an sh at the end. I know that my great grandparents immigtaed to America form Bohemia in the 1840-50. It is exciting to hear of other kalas's further back. What is a good way to trace that name? Thank You, Barbara Kalas		2005/11/21, 22:13:07 #: 200511910 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas: Re: Kalas Surname origin Kalas is also written as Kalash, Kaliz, Kalasz (Poland/Hungary), Kalich (Germany), Kalischt, Kulas, Kulash, Kaluz, Kalizler (Turkish) etc. depending on where you live in the world and your linguistic variation in pronounciation. They are of Persian origin who were later turcisized (not be confused with the Kalas/Kalash Kafirs livng in Pakistan, who claim Greek ancestory). They were originally Jews and Muslims and travelled into Russia, Eastern Europe either via the Caucasus or via the Aral Sea route. Most later on became Christians. The Muslim Kalash are virtually extinct now, but there may still be some Jewish Kaliz about. You will need to find out how Kalas is written/pronounced in Bohemia search church records there and any Jewish websites with the surname also. http://www.magyariszlam.hu/eng/history.html Káliz (pronounced Kalish) The Káliz group were an important part of the nation, who settled from the area of Hvárezm. Names of settlements: Káloz (Fejér county 1326: Kaluz, Kálócfa, Zala county 1426 Kalozfalua, Budakalász, Pest county, 1332-1337, Kaluz) Hungarians were in contact with the Kaliz even before the conquest. Before the conquest, hvárezmi spoke the Iranian language and many of them lived in Kazaria and in the city of Bulgar. Later, the Old Iranian language was changed to Turkish. From the XII century we have much information about “Káliz”. A Byzantium history writer, Kinnamosz explains the battle (1150) of Hungarians and Byzantium, and he also mentions that other nations, who had different beliefs, were fighting with Hungarians too. These nations were kaliz and bissani. According to him, kaliz nation had the same religion as the Persians. This happened in 1165. The trade road between the Danube and the Tisza was named after this nation (“Káliz-Road”) Alán and úz were mentioned as Islam immigrants in the X century (they arrived with the second bissani migration). Hungarians called the alan as varsány. It can be presumed, that the settlements or personal names called as varsány connects to the Islamic believer aláns. Also see: http://www.ancestry.com/ C:\Documents and Settings\ZAHIR\Desktop\MAňőAR, MAňőARIST$N [V1010b].htm Hope that helps (Gujar Kalas, Pakistan/UK)		2005/11/21, 22:47:33 #: 200511911 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas: Re: Kalas Surname origin Oops! sorry the other link explaining more about the Kaliz(pronounced Kalish), Kalas/Kalash. is to be found at: http://www.encislam.brill.nl/data/EncIslam/C4/COM-0604.html Please scroll down to Item 2 (d) Some of the special characters might not appear correctly if you havent go the font installed on your PC recommended at: http://www.encislam.demo.brill.nl/		2005/11/21, 23:28:48 #: 200511913 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gudjar Kalas: Re: Kalas Surname origin Also see: 'CZECH REPUBLIC BOHEMIA AND MORAVIA GENEALOGICAL RESEARCH:' http://www.iarelative.com/czech/ http://www.iarelative.com/czech/sea0999c.htm (kalas is mentioned on this page.) I don't know how old this website is and whether some of the emails still work, but the main page offers a lot of info.		2005/11/22, 00:14:34 #: 200511915 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	barbarakalascroatia: Re: Kalas Surname origin Hi Barbara Kalas,i'm another Barbara Kalas, architect from Zagreb, Croatia and my "s" on the end of the surname is actually croatian letter that would be pronounced as "sh" My father, croatian, was born in a little villedge in Dalmatia (part od croatia) called "Kalasi" what would mean - place where people named Kalas live :)		2006/08/19, 02:03:18 #: 200608673 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas Surname origin Please see: Khalyzians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalyzians		2006/08/19, 02:22:18 #: 200608676 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas Surname origin Please see: Khalyzians http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Khalyzians		2006/08/19, 02:22:28 #: 200608677 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	barbarakalascroatia: Re: Kalas Surname origin wow, thank you for such a quick answer! i'm really amazed, cause my father really comes from Dalmatia :)		2006/08/19, 02:27:35 #: 200608678 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas Surname origin The Chalyzians / Khalyzians (also called Khalis/Khwalis: Arabic/khwarezmian, Kaliz in Magyar and pronounced Kalish, Khalisioi in Ancient Greek) were a people mentioned by the 12th century Byzantine historian John Kinnamos. According to some editions of John, the Khalyzians practiced Mosaic law; though whether they were actually Jews is unclear. Other editions state that they were Muslims. They were said to have fought against the Byzantine Empire as allies of the tribes of Dalmatia in 1154, during Manuel Comnenus's campaign in the Balkans. Abraham Harkavy hypothesized that the Khalyzians were a Khazar tribe, perhaps connected to the Kabars who settled in Hungary or to Khazar refugees fleeing the destruction of their khaganate by the Kievan Rus in the 960s CE and the Pecheneg influx which followed in the 970's. A contemporary of Harkavy's, the Polish historian August Bielkowski, suggested that the Khalyzians were identical with the tribe known in Russian sources as the Khvalisy; hence they may have been connected to the Arsiya. A province of the Lower Voga: The province of Khwalis (Khwali-As) on the lower Volga, was the realm of the trading Eastern Iranians; its twin city Amol/Atil, also called Sariycin/Khamlikh. It was ruled by a governor with the title of Tarkhan As-Tarkhan. Source: Harvard Ukrainian Studies, Volume II, Number 3, September 1978, p.262 (Ukrainian Research Institute, Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts). Their origins are thought to be around the Aral sea, Khwarezmia.		2006/08/19, 02:28:38 #: 200608679 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Gujar Kalas (Pakistan): Re: Kalas Surname origin The Chalyzians / Khalyzians (also called Khalis/Khwalis: Arabic/khwarezmian, Kaliz in Magyar and pronounced Kalish, Khalisioi in Ancient Greek) were a people mentioned by the 12th century Byzantine historian John Kinnamos. According to some editions of John, the Khalyzians practiced Mosaic law; though whether they were actually Jews is unclear. Other editions state that they were Muslims. They were said to have fought against the Byzantine Empire as allies of the tribes of Dalmatia in 1154, during Manuel Comnenus's campaign in the Balkans. Abraham Harkavy hypothesized that the Khalyzians were a Khazar tribe, perhaps connected to the Kabars who settled in Hungary or to Khazar refugees fleeing the destruction of their khaganate by the Kievan Rus in the 960s CE and the Pecheneg influx which followed in the 970's. A contemporary of Harkavy's, the Polish historian August Bielkowski, suggested that the Khalyzians were identical with the tribe known in Russian sources as the Khvalisy; hence they may have been connected to the Arsiya. A province of the Lower Voga: The province of Khwalis (Khwali-As) on the lower Volga, was the realm of the trading Eastern Iranians; its twin city Amol/Atil, also called Sariycin/Khamlikh. It was ruled by a governor with the title of Tarkhan As-Tarkhan. Source: Harvard Ukrainian Studies, Volume II, Number 3, September 1978, p.262 (Ukrainian Research Institute, Harvard University Cambridge, Massachusetts). Their origins are thought to be around the Aral sea, Khwarezmia.		2006/08/19, 02:28:45 #: 200608680 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Kolláth Orsolya Emilia: Kalas Apai nagymamám, Kalas Emília 1911-ben vagy 1913-ban született, majd férjhez ment Zilizre (Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén megye), nagypapámhoz, Kolláth Tamáshoz. Négy gyerekük született: Klára (aki jelenleg Budapesten lakik, és egy lánya van, akit Roskó Katalinnak hívnak) Pál (aki haláláig Csornán volt gimnáziumi tanár, és két gyereke született, Éva és Botond), Tamás(aki Borsodszirákon élt feleségével, Piroskával, és lányukkal, Enikővel), és az édesapám, Kolláth Ferenc (szül. 1949 május(. Kérem, aki tudja, hogy nagymamám, Kalas Emília honnan származhatott, az írjon egy emailt a kolor-k-u-k-a-c-freemail-p-o-n-t-hu címre.		2009/10/21, 02:38:54 #: 200910654 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Danos: Keresem Keresem Kalas Máriát a szlovákiai losonci járásból, Sőregről, született 1959-ben, Sőregre, Ajnácskőre és aztán talán Losoncra járt iskolába. Úgy hallottam, hogy egykor Sőregen a templom környékén lakott. Szeretnélek megtalálni.		2009/11/26, 02:43:31 #: 200911958 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Kollath Orsolya Emilia: Kalas Apai nagymamám, Kalas Emília 1911-ben vagy 1913-ban született, (apja Kalas Márton, anyja Senyei Lidia, és volt egy Ferenc nevű testvére(1905-1986) ) majd férjhez ment Zilizre (Borsod-Abaúj-Zemplén megye, Borsod vármegye), nagypapámhoz, Kolláth Tamáshoz. Négy gyerekük született: Klára (aki jelenleg Budapesten lakik, és egy lánya van, akit Roskó Katalinnak hívnak) Pál (aki haláláig Csornán volt gimnáziumi tanár, és két gyereke született, Éva és Botond), Tamás(aki Borsodszirákon élt feleségével, Piroskával, és lányukkal, Enikővel), és az édesapám, Kolláth Ferenc (szül. 1949 május). Kérem, aki tudja, hogy nagymamám, Kalas Emília honnan származhatott, az írjon egy emailt a kolor-a-t-freemail-p-o-n-t-hu címre.		2011/04/13, 10:46:59 #: 201104389 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Laura Kalas: Kalas I`m surprised many connected to this name. I`m from Kazakhstan Central Asia. My grandfater says our name is one of the oldest names.		2011/04/19, 17:05:59 #: 201104597 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

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