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	Michel: family tree I'm trying to complete my family tree... and my great- grand father was born in Nemes Podhragy (Kozicz or von Kozicz) http://gw.geneanet.org/index.php3?b=michka37 any information welcome		2006/04/19, 10:09:48 #: 200604924 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	mazsola: Re: family tree Hi :) I am Ágnes Kozicz and living in Hungary. :) Was Your search succesful?		2007/12/26, 09:48:07 #: 2007121270 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	michel: Re: family tree Thanks for your post; No, I wans't successful so far. Do you have any information on your family tree? Michel		2008/07/24, 14:50:58 #: 2008071069 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: KOZICZ Michel Nemes Podhragy? Where is that?		2008/07/24, 17:18:23 #: 2008071073 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: KOZIC in Zemianske Podhradie Michel KOZIC and KOZIC^ in Slovak Republic. www.zoznamst.sk An ALL site for research in SK: www.iabsi.com/gen/public NemeschPodhragy, Trencsen megye, Hungary now Zemianske Podhradie, Trencin region, Slovak Republic/Slovakia. KOZIC Milan in Zemianske Podhradie's phone book. www.zoznamst.sk area code/UTO 032 Kozics, Janos Podhrad (Nemes Kozicz, Pal Nemespodragy www.ellisislandrecords.org www.bosacka.sk		2008/07/24, 18:44:39 #: 2008071074 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Michel: Re: KOZIC in Zemianske Podhradie Thanks for your info. it seems that we are getting closer... I guess I need to dig in this area We have in our family a document dated from May 1619 , granting to the Kozich family a title an some land (I guess) in Nemes Podhragi near Bosach in the “Komitate” Trencsin		2008/07/28, 10:29:59 #: 2008071289 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Michel: Re: KOZIC in Zemianske Podhradie Hi Agnes From what I have been told, this area used to be part of Hungary, before being attached to Slovakia. Regards michel		2008/07/28, 10:32:33 #: 2008071291 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	mazsola: re Hi All!! I am really happy to read all this above from you! sg for you: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zemianske_Podhradie So, my father told me that the Kozicz Family originates from Poland, and our forefathers were noble/grand (they had a title). Till the second world war in my father's hometown an old man had the family tree on a leather sheet, but during the war it has been destroyed.Many Koziczs live in Hungary, specially in my father's town (Nagyigmánd)village :) and in this region.I would also really like to know more about us. Perhaps at ministry or in an official office should we ask for some information (registration). best wishes for you all Ágnes :)		2008/07/28, 11:52:53 #: 2008071305 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: KOZIC in Zemianske Podhradie Your welcome Michel Bosaca and Zemianske Podhradie are 0.5 km apart http://mapy.zoznam.sk/index.pl?zoom=6&pos_x=-512785&pos_y=-1210040&size=full&lang=sk&sipka=1&name=Bošáca, Nové Mesto nad Váhom Bosaca, Trencin region( Bossacza, Bosacza, Bosschacza, Bossace, Bossac Trencsen megye) http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 A map of A-H : http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm		2008/07/28, 13:41:07 #: 2008071308 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: KOZIC, KOZICZ in Poland Agnes In 1990 census of names there were 21 KOZICs and 208 KOZICZs in Poland. www.herby.com.pl in Polish and only distribution. http://www.moikrewni.pl/mapa/kompletny/kozicz.html http://maxpages.com/poland www.rootsweb.com/~polwgw/index.html www.surnamenavigator.org		2008/07/28, 15:54:47 #: 2008071314 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	skozler: Kozicz Looking for information on Stefan Kozicz, Elizabeth Kozicz or Johann Kozicz last residence was Vagujhely in 1911 they came to USA on the vessel Caroline on June 15th. Also I think with a cousin Istvan Kozlav or Kozlar. My grandfather is Stefan. I have obtained the his petition for natualization papers, but after tracing back to the Caroline's manifest in June, Stefan is KOZICZ not KOZLAR like I expected. Also Istvan Kozlar who is named as my grandfathers sponsor in the papers, his name on the ships manifest is Kozlav. ANy help would be appreciated Thank You!		2010/05/23, 16:23:17 #: 201005768 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozicz skozler Nové Mesto nad Váhom, Slovak Republic 1773 Vág-Ujhely, Vágh-Ujhely, Neüstadl, Nove Mesto, 1786 Ujhely, Vág-Ujhely, Neustadtl, Nowé Mesto nad Váhom, Dolné Nowé Mesto, 1808 Vág-Újhely, Neustadtl an der Waag, Dolní Nowé Město, 1863–1913 Vágújhely, 1920– Nové Mesto nad Váhom[all the names this town was known by] In 1995 in Slovakia KOZIC in these towns: http://slovniky.juls.savba.sk/?w=kozic&s=exact&c=z7be&d=kssj4&d=psp&d=scs&d=sss&d=peciar&d=ma&d=hssjV&d=obce&d=priezviska&d=un&ie=utf-8&oe=utf-8 KOZIC in Nove Mesto nad Vahom's phone book http://www.zoznam.sk/hladaj.fcgi?co=telzoznam&s=kozic&mesto=nove mesto nad vahom&ulica=&psc=&uto=&net_fixed=1&net_mobile=1&net_alt=1 You might want to post on Slovak Republic's Ancestry and Genforum board, if you have not already. www.iabsi.com/gen/public www.helenezx.homestead.com Church records in LDS-Mormons http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=localityhitlist&columns=*,0,0&PLACE=nove mesto nad vahom&PARTOF=&prePLACE=nove mesto nad vahom&prePARTOF=		2010/05/23, 16:33:05 #: 201005769 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlav, Kozler skozler Kozlav, Istvan Cserfold, Austria 18 1893 1911 He is listed as a cousin, Slovenian instead of Slovak was going to Chicago, Ill the shipping clerk's handwriting not that legible to make out if the surname is KOZLAR or KOZLAV. Istvan in Hungarian; Stefan in Slovak. Kozler, Matias Cserfold, Hungary 26 1886 1912 the town of Cserföld, Zala m. Hungary is Crensovci, Slovenia. KOZLAR and KOZIC in Slovenia. KOZLER, KOZIC, KOZ'IC', KOZIC' and KOZICZ in Slovakia.		2010/05/23, 22:27:10 #: 201005784 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar skozler On another board you wrote On my Grandfathers Death certificate I have a town called Cerencunci, Austria or Cerencanci, Austria. I can hardly make out the writing. Was your ancestor Slovak or Slovenian? Should Cerencunci, Austria be Crensovci, Slovenia [Cserföld, Zala m. Hungary. OR Čerenčany, Slovakia 1773 Cserencsény, Cšerencšány, 1786 Cscherencschény, Čserenčssany, 1808 Cserencsény, Cžerenčany, 1863–1913 Cserencsény, 1920– Čerenčany but this is no where near Vagujhely {Nove Mesto nad Vahom]. Are you saying your Stefan is KOZLAR? Kozlar, Stefan Cserenszoz, Hung. 24 1887 1911 Kozlar, Stefan ..., Hungary 40 1867 1907		2010/05/23, 23:41:50 #: 201005789 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	skozler: Re: Kozlav, Kozler Hello, Thanks for the info. I'm sorry I really don't understand what you just sent me. I don't understand the difference between Slovenia and Slovakia. Will keep searching. Thanks		2010/05/23, 23:49:12 #: 201005790 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlav, Kozler You're welcome. I am sure you know Slovakia [former Czechoslovakia] and Slovenia [former Yugoslavia]. Have you read all of my posts to your? What did your ancestor considered himself to be Slovak or Slovenian?		2010/05/23, 23:52:40 #: 201005791 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	skozler: Re: Kozlar I believe my ancestor was Slovenian. Actually I don't know. On the other board, if you want to read through.... I am trying to find out my true last name. Grandfathers death certificate says Kozler. Grave stone says KOZLAR, Naturalization papers say KOZLAR I check the Ship manifest he arrived on, it says KOZICZ AT this point I don't know. He was born in Budapest, Hungary. I don't know if that is Slovak or Slovenian. Sorry just a dumb american.?		2010/05/23, 23:56:18 #: 201005792 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlav, Kozler skozler I do not have a subscription to Ancestry so all the information I am posting is for free. did you look on the NY EI manifests? www.ellisislandrecords.org		2010/05/23, 23:57:36 #: 201005793 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar If your ancestor is Slovenian than Slovakia board is not for you to post. You should post on Slovenia's Ancestry and Genforum board. Since the grave stone says KOZLAR than KOZLAR it is. Mistakes were made at the port of departure, when the manifests were transcribed so give yourself some leaway in (mis)spelling. The death certificate was not written by your ancestor but by a clerk and given by a family member who might not have known everything. This, him being born in Budapest, Hungary is another twist in your research. Could this be your ancestor? Kozlar, Stefan Cserenszoz, Hung. 24 1887 1911 view www.ellisislandrecords.org		2010/05/24, 00:03:47 #: 201005794 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	skozler: Re: Kozlar Yes I did look at the ellis island records. That other entry could be him. However, the naturalization papaers say he was on the Caroline on June 15th 1911. The one your refering to was on the OCEANIC I'm trying to go with what is in the naturalizat ion papers. Other items seem to match other information I have. Istvan Kozlar is mentioned in his naturalization papaers. Istvan is listed on the manifest on June 15th. It also says his fathers name was Michael. On my grandfathers death certificate it says his fathers name is Michael. a few other things... don't want to go on and on. I guess I was just hoping for the easy solution finding a family tree I belong to was just not ment to be. Thanks for you help		2010/05/24, 00:20:30 #: 201005795 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar skozler did you compare the information about the ship and date of arrival on his naturalization intent with the KOZLAR /KOZICZ manifest? Cserencsóc, Zala megye, Hungary is same as Cserenszoz what was written on Stefan KOZLAR's NY EI manifest. http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/zala.jpg Cserencsócz, Črenšovci, Cserföld populated place 46°34' N 16°17' E E M U G Slovenia 92.0 miles ENE of Ljubljana 46°3' N 14°31' E http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=46.5744&longitude=16.2906&size=big http://feefhs.org/links/slovenia.html		2010/05/24, 00:21:08 #: 201005796 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar You're welcome. Any other US documents like SS-5Form, state marriage application, church marriage record or draft registration form? You should post on Ancestry and Genforum board. Wider exposure might bring out more ideas and distant relatives.		2010/05/24, 00:27:03 #: 201005797 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	skozler: Re: Kozlar I feel SO embarresed right now. Istvan(Steve) Kozlar is my grandfather. I was so stuck on Stefan Steve or Stephen, I didn't realize Istvan was Steve and the difference between Slovak and Slovenian. They maybe cousins, but I thought originally Stefan was my grandfather. It's the other way around. Thanks so much for talking this through with me. Have a great rest of the day!		2010/05/24, 00:38:48 #: 201005798 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar He is yours : Kozlav, Istvan Cserfold, Austria 18 1893 1911 and some of them can be related to him: Kozlar, Anna Blatnica, Hungary 21 1885 1906 Kozlar, Ignacz Syiovac, Hungaria 24 1890 1914 Kozlar, Ivan Junsyar, Hungary 26 1884 1910 Kozlar, Marko Csertico, Hungary 36 1877 1913 Kozlar, Martosi Cseresecz 27 1880 1907 Kozlar, Stefan Cserenszoz, Hung. 24 1887 1911 Kozlar, Stefan ..., Hungary 40 1867 1907 Kozlar, Terez Tuskeszer 17 1894 1911 Kozlar, Yvan Tuske Ser, Austria 26 1884 1910 Do post on Slovenia's Ancestry and Genforum board for further help in your research. I did not verify the spelling of the village but I can beet that several of them are not spelled or transcribed correctly.		2010/05/24, 00:52:48 #: 201005799 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

	Zlatica : Re: Kozlar / Kozler skozler Kozler, Matias Cserfold, Hungary 26 1886 1912 Kozlav, Istvan Cserfold, Austria 18 1893 1911 Kozler, Matyas Cserencsocz, Hungary 25 1882 1907 Kozlar, Martosi Cseresecz 27 1880 1907 Kozlar, Stefan Cserenszoz, Hung. 24 1887 1911 Cserencsóc, Zala m. Hungary Crensovci, Slovenia. Kozler, Terez Tuskescer, Ungheria 20 1889 1909 Kozlar, Terez Tuskeszer 17 1894 1911 Kozlar, Yvan Tuske Ser, Austria 26 1884 1910 Tüskeszer, Zala m. Hungary now Trnje, Slovenia Trnje is close to Crensovci. Use www.maplandia.com for a different view of the villages.		2010/05/24, 03:26:28 #: 201005800 válasz erreszerkesztés moderálandó? profil

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