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Linda: Relatives
Hi

My name is Linda Oszadlik Laursen; I'm a descendant from Stephanus Ocsadlik (born in 1859) who came to Denmark in 1875 possibly together with a Istwan Ocsadlik. I'm looking for descendants from Stephanus as well as information on the family.

Hope to hear from someone.

Regards, Linda
2003/09/24, 13:07:16
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Forgot to mention that they came from the city Balmik.

Regards,
Linda
2003/09/24, 13:41:30
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) have filmed the church records so as long as you know the name of a village and religious orientation of your ancestor you can order the films and gather ancestral information.

I did not locate a town named Bajmik.
http://www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm is a good locator of a town when the name is from old regime.

The 4 OCZADLIK that passed thru Ellis Island port to America have that they are Slovak from Brodno which is now in city of Zilina, Slovak Republic.
http://mapy.atlas.sk

Istvan is Stefan (S) Stephanus in Latin.
The name OC'ADLIK lists in city of Zilina's phone book.
www.zoznamst.sk
2003/09/24, 22:38:43
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Thank you Zlatica for all that information.

It seems Ocsadlik can be spelled in many ways. Does it mean anything in Hungarian??

Regards,
Linda
2003/09/25, 09:46:34
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
I do believe that Ocsadlik and Oc'adlik is same pronounciaton but different language.
To me the name seems like it might have some Slavic roots but I have no idea what it could mean.

You know for a fact that the name of a town is Balmik?
Do you know the language of your ancestor? Recall the history of Austria-Hungary dual monarchy and the languages that were spoken there.
2003/09/25, 12:05:31
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Below is the information I have from the government papers here in Denmark. But the spelling of Balmik may be wrong - maybe he couldn't spell or didn't know how it was spelled.

Last Name: Ocsadlik
First Name: Istwan
Birthday: 00.00.1859
Occupation: Steel tread worker
Native country: Hungary
Native city: Balmik
Arrival 21.09.1875

It has always been said in my family that we came from Hungarian gypsies and I know that they were Catholic but as to what language they spoke I don't know.
2003/09/25, 13:01:55
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
Untill you can locate the town Balmik, your ancestor can be any nationality, even Slovak and not a gypsy at all.

As far as I know, the gypsies in my village did not go to church but of course that does not mean that they were nonbelievers.
What was the maiden name of the person your Ocsadlik married? Sometimes that might help some but again, there is always an exception to any rule.
2003/09/25, 13:13:02
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Maybe the gypsy part is just an old story - it does seem strange that they should be Catholic.

Stephanus married a Danish girl - here in Denmark, so unfortunately that does not give me much.

Do you know if Hungary has any public records of people moving to another country??
2003/09/25, 14:24:00
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
I am sure that there are records but again you would need to have a correct name of a town.
The LDS-Mormons have filmed the church records of several European countries, which those records are by name of a town and religious orientation.

I check in the Czech Republic's phone book and the name OCADLIK seems to list there.
http://phone.quick.cz

2003/09/25, 14:39:11
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Linda: Re: Relatives
I've looked at the LDS-Mormon site but cannot find the place where you search for town records. Could you please help me Zlatica??
2003/09/30, 11:32:27
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
www.familysearch.org/Eng/Library/FHLC/frameset_fhlc.asp

click on Place Search and in Place rectangle type a name of a town and then click search.
2003/09/30, 12:34:37
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Evi: Szebeledi
Until now I believed that our family name was uniek and noone else had it in the world. Now, I've just learnt that not only many others carry the same family name, there is also another Eva Szebeledi somewhere. I'd like to know where my family name is coming from, the name can be spelled as Szebeledi, Szebelledi, Szebeledy, Szebelledy. Would you pls get in touch with me on
Szebeledi_Evi -a-t- hotmail -d-o-t- com if you know anything about the family. Thanks
2003/09/30, 13:00:54
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Linda: Re: Relatives
I now found out the names of Stephanus' parents. Paulo Ocsadlik and Maria Jarosf - I tried to find her last name but come up empty??
2003/10/03, 15:10:01
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
I would think that JAROS(F) would be her surname as that name does exist in Poland, Slovak Republic and Czech Republic.
2003/10/03, 19:45:59
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Can anyone tell me what the name Maria would be in Hungarian??
2004/10/10, 10:35:58
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
Linda

Here is a first name website :
www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names

Maria is Maria
2004/10/10, 13:26:32
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Linda: Re: Relatives
I now found out that Stephan Oscadlik came from the city Nagy-Divina in Hungary. Are there any record online I can access?

Thx.

Linda
2005/10/02, 15:52:04
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
Linda

The village of Nagydivina, Trencsen megye, Hungary is now Divina, Slovak Republic.
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
http://mapy.atlas.sk for locating Divina
www.divina.sk
Nothing on line but LDS-Mormons website is listing church records of Divina, which you can order and gather ancestral information off of.
2005/10/02, 16:01:24
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Thank you for all your help Zlatica. I found my ancestor in the church book from Nagy-Divina, along with a lot of siblings and cousins.

Best regards,
Linda

2005/12/14, 19:54:08
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Peter : Re: Relatives
Hello Linda,
I am from Zilina close to villages NAgy Divina and Brodno too. I can help you with your research in this area. Please, specify me what are you interesting.

Peter
2005/12/15, 14:00:19
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Linda: Re: Relatives
Hi Peter,

Thank you very much for your offer.

I'm looking into my great-great grandfather who came to Denmark in 1875. He was born in Nagy-Divina in 1859 and the church book showed a lot of people with the same last name; Ocsadlik. I haven't finished with the church book, but hope to find his parents wedding and maybe even their christenings. They were catholics so the church books are in latin.

Do you know if there are other records than the church records maybe showing where they lived or some sort of census listing everyone in a household?

Best regards,
Linda
2005/12/15, 19:42:29
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives
Your welcome.

Check into an 1869 census.
www.iabsi.com/gen/public Bill's website does have information.

Check this site for surnames:
www.geoportal.sk/roep/e.php
2005/12/15, 20:17:12
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Linda Oszadlik Laursen: Relatives from NagyDivina
Hi,

I'm looking for someone who can help find out more about my Hungarien ancestors who came from Nagi-Divina.

Paulo Ocsadlik, b. 1. januar 1826 in Lalinek
Maria Jaross, b. 4. juli 1836 in Lalinek
Children:
Stephanus Ocsadlik, b. 7. juli 1859 in Nagy-Divina
Anna Oscadlik, b. 8. december 1862 in Nagy-Divina
Josephus Ocsadlik, b. 7. februar 1866 in Nagy-Divina
Maria Oscadlik, b. 12. juli 1869 in Nagy-Divina

The first son Stephanus moved to Denmark in 1959, but I'm currious as to what happen to the other siblings and the parents.

Best regards,
Linda
2009/08/21, 10:43:17
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
Linda
Jaros businees in Divina's phone book
http://www.zoznam.sk/hladaj.fcgi?co=telzoznam&s=jaros&mesto=divina&ulica=&psc=&uto=&net_fixed=1&net_mobile=1&net_alt=1
Nagydivina, Trencsen megye, Hungary now Divina, Slovak Republic.
Lalinek: 1773, 1786, 1808, 1863–1902 Lalinek, 1907 Lányos
Divina ZA/ZI trenè.
1773 Nagy-Divina, Diwina, 1786 Nagy-Diwina, 1808 Nagy-Divina, Welká Diwina, 1863–1902 Nagydivina, 1907–1913 Nagydivény, 1920– Divina {all the names of this village)
2009/08/21, 17:47:02
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Linda Oszadlik Laursen: Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
Hi Zlatica,

You're still here :O)

Thanks for the info. But I was hoping more for a semi-professional geneologist who chould help me track the family from the 1800s.

It's really great, though, to get the present names of the villages. Do you know if they are close?

Thanks again,
Linda
2009/08/21, 17:53:40
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
You're welcome.
Still here.
Have you posted on Slovak Republic/Slovakia board like Ancestry, Genforum; http://slovakia.eunet.sk
www.slovensko.com www.iarelative.com
I am sure you know about a good locator
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm
Lalinok is 1 km South of Divina; Divinka is 2.5km South of Divina. All of the above are North-West of Zilina. Distance is from SK's 1:100000 atlas.
old Trencsen megye map:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/trencsen.jpg
Zsolna is Zilina. (blue -river Vag/Vah in Slovak)
2009/08/21, 18:22:55
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
Linda
Are these connected somehow to your ancestor?
They came to America www.ellisislandrecords.org
Juros, Georg Lalinek, Hungary 32 1875 1907
Juros, Maria Lalinek, Hungary 27 1880 1907
Ocadlik, Andrej Lalinek, Solvoia 32 1873 1905
Ocadlik, Fsuszanna Salinek, Hungary 40 1865 1905
2009/08/21, 18:44:54
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Linda Oszadlik Laursen: Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
It didn't occur to me to post on Ancestry.com - but now I have!

As to the people through Ellis Island. They might be relations... but I'm not sure. Their names certainly indicate that they could be. But without futher information on the family... I'll keep them in mind, though.

Thanks.
2009/08/22, 16:31:25
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Zlatica : Re: Relatives from NagyDivina
Hi Linda

Just posted to your query on Hungary's Ancestry. You should post on Slovakia/Slovak Republic'being that Nagydivina is Divina, Slovak Republic.
www.411.com listing OCADLIK.
2009/08/22, 17:32:14
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