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Roger Young: Pillischer
I am looking for information on Moritz, Jacob, and Edward Pillischer who were instrument makers in England in the 19&20 centuries. Edward may be my grandfather. Jacob was the nephew of Moritz and from Hungary and also the father of Edward. I live in Canada.
2004/09/24, 04:04:18
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Zlatica : Re: Pillischer
Roger

I am sure you know that you need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research.

A map of Austria-Hungary empire:
http://users.erols.com/mwhite28/austhung.htm

www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator
www.genealogienetz.de/reg
www.google.com
You might want to take a look in Ellis Island website. There were 4 PILLISCHERs.
2004/09/24, 05:07:28
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ANDY GOLDFINCH: Re: Pillischer
Hello.

I am tracing my wifes family which is MAGNER. In 1875 Louisa Pillischer daughter of Moritz married Julius Magner who originaly originated from ALT LANDSBERG IN PRUSSIA. Alt means OLD and OLD LANDSBERG was a district of Brandenberg. OLD landsberg is now an area of Berlin. I have a copy of the marriage certificate so if you supply your fax number I can send this to you. Have you checked out the sites which show Moritz to be an opticion in Bond street who invented a Pocket Microscope. Good luck Andy Goldfinch.UK
2004/10/21, 14:21:25
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Anne Berkley: Re: Pillischer
Roger
I am researching Moritz Pillischer and came across your message. His early work in London as an instrument maker was at 419 Oxford Street London & susequently at 398 Oxford St 1851-1853 and then at 88 New Bond st London from 1854- 1887. I am trying to find any reference to his making of an aneroid barometer in the 1880s or thereabouts which is signed M Pillischer and also Ch. Mellier. It was made to order for Bertram Currie a Victorian collector of Minley Manor and Richmond Terrace.
If you have any references to Moritz Pillischer and his life in London and also when he arrived there and his date of birth & death etc. I would like to hear from you.
If I find anything new about him I will let you know.
2006/02/01, 16:00:32
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Anne Berkley: Re: Pillischer
Roger
I am researching Moritz Pillischer and came across your message. His early work in London as an instrument maker was at 419 Oxford Street London & susequently at 398 Oxford St 1851-1853 and then at 88 New Bond st London from 1854- 1887. I am trying to find any reference to his making of an aneroid barometer in the 1880s or thereabouts which is signed M Pillischer and also Ch. Mellier. It was made to order for Bertram Currie a Victorian collector of Minley Manor and Richmond Terrace.
If you have any references to Moritz Pillischer and his life in London and also when he arrived there and his date of birth & death etc. I would like to hear from you.
If I find anything new about him I will let you know.
2006/02/01, 16:04:31
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anneberkley: Re: Pillischer
Hi Roger
I am researching Moritz Pillischer Instrument maker of London in 19th century. I have some addresses that he worked at in London: earliest known address, 419 Oxford Street & then at 398 Oxford Street 1851-53, 88 New Bond Street 1854-87. Listed as Morrice Pillischer as an exhibiter at Great Exhibition, London 1851 and his nephew Jacob succeeded him. If you have any further info about Moritz I would be grateful as I am researching his making of an aneroid barometer for Bertram Currie in the later part of the nineteenth century. Anne
2006/02/02, 19:30:06
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Roger Young: Re: Pillischer
Anne
I have received your message. Most of my information is geneological since I think I may be a distant relative. I'll get back to you in a few days once I have sorted out the various papers I have on the family.
Roger
2006/02/03, 15:54:18
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anneberkley: Re: Pillischer
roger
thanks for your prelimary reply and look forward to hearing from again with some information on Moritz Pillischer ie date of birth etc. Anne
2006/02/03, 16:20:49
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Roger Young: Re: Pillischer
Anne
Moritz married Babete Cohen in London in 1847 10Feb.They were married in The Great Synagog by N. Adler, Chief Rabbi.
They had 6 children, 5 daughters and a son who seems to have died in early chilhood. This situation brought Moritz's nephew, Jacob, from Budapest, to marry a daughter Rose in 1872 17July. Also Moritz's wife had died in 1870 12March of what was probably a ruptured appendix. She was 47 and this would mean she was born in 1823. Therefore Moritz was her age or a little older when they married. Mortiz died in 1893 4 March, probably in Briton where he had retired with one of his daughters who did not marry, all the others did.
Jacob had 3 children. Edward the eldest, was born in the third quarter of 1873. There was a brother Leopold and the youngest a sister Bertha. Jacob took over the business and later called it Jacob Pillischer and Sons. Only Leo married in 1904 to a Janka Grunberger. Something must have happened to her because any records that mention Leo have him single. I have several old photo's of certificates from pre WW1 that show the business exhibiting through out Europe.
Edward seems to have lived in both Paris and London. The family home was in St. John's Wood area.
This is the twist. My mother was born Sept 1925. For several years she lived with Jacob and Rose. Jacob died in 1930 and soon after she met her mother. Edward was always called uncle. Her mother Maud was not a Pillischer by any stretch and I have not been able to find out who she was. Jacob even had a clause in his will that if any of his 2 sons should marry outside of the Jewish faith they would lose their inheritance. I have not been able to find any registration of my mother's birth in England. So maybe things were fudged or she was born in France because she moved there with Edward and Maud a few months after Jacob died and they stayed there until Sept 39. If Edward and Maud ever married it was not in England. Edward wanted to send my mother to New York when the war broke out, but Maud would not allow it. I assume that there must have been a family connection in New York. My mother met a handsome Canadian soldier came to Canada and had 3 sons. I'm the eldest.Edward died in 1966 never having seen my mother again and Maud died in 1976 about 3 weeks after my wife and I visited her in Hove.
Leo and Bertha both died in the early 50's. So ended the Pillischer name. Moritz's other daughters no doubt had children but not of the Pillischer line. Some of their desendants are no doubt in England.
Moritz's microscopes are quite collectable, but as far as the barometer gores I'm afraid I can't help you. My youngest brother has a couple of thermometers made by J. Pillischer and Sons.
Tracing the family has been very interesting and frustrating, especially my grandmother, who went by the name of Maud Humphreys, and if anyone reading this has any idea of who she was please let me know. I think she will be harder to find then the barometer.
Good luck in your search.
Roger
2006/02/07, 18:19:46
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anneberkley: Re: Pillischer
Roger
Many thanks for your information on Moritz Pillischer and the family's history. I know that he made an important pocket barometer for a member of Royalty but I can't recall who it was. The barometer I am researching is also a very fine piece and was made for a wealthy Victorian collector, Bertram Currie and signed M Pillischer London. So it appears your ancestor made only the very finest!!
I hope you are able to find out more about your grandmother Maud Humphreys.
Thanks again for the interesting insight into the Pillischer Family and good luck with any more searching that you may do. I shall endeavour to continue searching on info. on barometers made by M Pillischer.
Anne
2006/02/08, 13:00:00
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pillischer: Re: Pillischer
Hi, came across this site when I ran a google search on Pillischer. I do it periodically to see what's going on. I don't claim a more than distant relationship with your great grandfather. My family, on my father's side, came out of Hungary (Budapest) between the two world wars. My father was actually born in Budapest. I understand that my grandfather had a brother, and my father had cousins in the US, that he lost contact with before he died in 1960. Should you run the family name on google, you'll find my brother David, my daughter Roni and one of my sons, Noam. There is someone named Matthew Pillischer, an artist. Nice to meet you.
2006/06/04, 16:49:18
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fossack: Re: Pillischer
Hi folks,
I don't know what the rules of this site are so I will appologise now if this post is against the policy. I am a scientific instrument dealer in the UK and have a rather fine brass cased aneroid barometer by Moritz Pillischer for sale. If anyone is interested please email me and I will send you some images and details. It's a brass cased aneroid with silvered dial and thermometer.
2006/07/22, 19:33:26
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fossack: Re: Pillischer
-In which case an email address would be useful! I can be contacted at fossack -k-u-k-a-c- btopenworld -p-o-n-t- com
2006/07/22, 19:37:19
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pillischer: Re: Pillischer
What's the price? It sounds expensive.
2006/07/23, 01:40:04
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Anne: Re: Pillischer
Image of the barometer. It has had a routine clean & service and is in full working order. Price is 295GBP inclusive of worldwide shipping.

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2006/07/31, 14:58:17
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John Marsden: Re: Pillischer
Roger, I'm researching Moritz and Jacob Pillischer because they made the Ophthalmoscopes for my relative Henry Edward Juler (1842-1921). I went to the National Archives on Tuesday (26-Sept-2006) and took a look at Jacob's Naturalisation papers (HO 144/1063/189431). In 1911 his residence was 9 Carlton Hill, St John's Wood.

Jacob was born in O'Becse in the county of Bacs-Bodrogh on 01 DEC 1838. If you send me your e-mail address (I am I'll send you a full report of the Naturalisation.

BTW: I have the MC of Jacob and Rosa (his cousin). They were married at 88 New Bond Street by the Chief Rabbi Dr N Adler, on July 17th 1872.

Cheers, John.
2006/09/28, 21:36:06
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H.Obstfeld: Pillischer
For ROGER YOUNG: regarding Moritz Pillischer, a chance dicovery in an optical journal which shows an invoice from Moritz P. dated 1870. Our interest: his daughter Rachel married Emil George Tuteur in 1895, by which time Moritz had died. They had a son, Maurice, who ended up in Canada. I am a descendant of the Tuteur family. By coincidence, my husband happens to be an optician.
Would like to make contact with anyone interested!
Dorothy
2008/03/29, 16:29:48
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Roger Young: Re: Pillischer
Hello
I guess the Pillischer gene is a strong one since I've been a photographer since I finished university. My middle name is Martin which my mother said was a grandfathers name, but it was really Moritz which is Hungarian for Maurice. Do you still live in Canada? I have a picture of edward if you are interested.
Roger
2008/03/29, 22:39:43
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H.Obstfeld: Re: Pillischer
2008/03/30, 22:20:45
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H.Obstfeld'Talk21.com: Pillischer
Roger: Misunderstanding: we live in London, UK. Out of curiosity, we found census records, births, marriages and deaths (only 2, so far). As we found the original P. item in an optical antiques collectors club newsletter, we have asked one of the editors whether they have further information. If we find anything, we'll let you know.
As for the name Moritz, it is German and Middle European. Are you interested in a scanned copy of the invoice published in the newsletter?
Dorothy (and Henri, the optician/optometrist)
2008/03/30, 22:46:44
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John Marsden: Re: Pillischer
Jacob Pillischer's Naturalisation.

He originally applied February 1910. He wanted a British passport to go to Argentina to defend his trade mark.
There were several firms of opticians and scientific instrument makers there, who were selling clinical thermometers
with Jacob Pillischer's name, trade mark, and the Kew Observatory Testing Mark, where in fact these instruments
were manufactured in Germany.

He was booked to travel on the Royal Mail Steam Ship "Amazon" on 11th March 1911. The Home Office were
very obstructive, and said he could not get naturalisation if he was going abroad. After legal representation, they
finally approved his naturalisation on 25-April-1911, and he received his 5-year British Passport on 23-May-1911.
He sailed in June 1911.

His application indicates that he was born in O'Becse, Hungary, in the County of Bacs Bodrogh on 01-Dec-1838.
He was the son of Ignacz and Rosa Pillischer, both now (1910) deceased. [Moritz was brother of Ignacz].
His residential address was 274 Elgin Ave, Maida Hill (Jan1883 - Aug1908); and 9 Carlton Hill, St John's Wood
(Aug1908 - Present).

He lists three children, and asks for British Nationality for them too:
Edward John Pillischer, age 37
Leopold James Pillischer, age 35 [PS: 1933 directory lists him as Cigar Merchant, 8 New Cavendish St, W1]
Bertha Pillischer, age 33, residing with him.

He made four trips overseas in 1910: 6 weeks to Argentina; 3 business trrips to Brussels (each less than 2 weeks)
for the Exhibition there.
2008/03/31, 18:31:44
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morteza: m.pillischer telescope
hi
iam find m.pillischer telescope and need any one to help me find a price for sele. marker m.pilliscer 88.new bond st london
2009/04/25, 06:13:30
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lesbuyit: Re: m.pillischer telescope
Hello P-Clan all,
I recently acquired a pair of Pillischer binoculars and the case label is '88 New Bond St'. From a little research, they may be Microscope bins, marked 7x and SIMONS. with an anchor and initials WK, Very good - Not immaculate but very redeemable. Super quality for the age. Interest and info can be directed to les.chattell -k-u-k-a-c- virgin.net -p-o-n-t- Pics available
2009/09/29, 19:25:05
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lesbuyit: Re: Pillischer
Hello P-Clan all,
I recently acquired a pair of Pillischer binoculars and the case label is '88 New Bond St'. From a little research, they may be Microscope bins, marked 7x and SIMONS. with an anchor and initials WK, Very good - Not immaculate but very redeemable. Super quality for the age. Interest and info can be directed to les.chattell -k-u-k-a-c- virgin -p-o-n-t- net Pics available
29/09/2009, 19:25:05







2009/09/29, 19:30:28
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PaulR: Re: Pillischer
This is very interesting to me as I am researching my great grandfather Henry Robinson.

He was born as Henry Robicsek in 1853 (possibly 1852) in Hungary (although I believe it might now be part of Romania in the Transylvania region). He emigrated to the UK sometime in his twenties, became naturalised, changed his surname (possibly not in that order!) and married Mary Pillischer, daughter of Moritz, in Hove on Tuesday August 1st 1882. I have just received a copy of the WC and it lists witnesses as Julius Magnus (Magius?) and Ignatz Lowe. I can't read the name of the minister properly but it may be Abraham Cl??? Jacob(son?).

They lived in Liverpool and had a son and three daughters. James (b1886) (my grandfather), Bertha (b1889), Lily (b1891) and Vera (Verona) (b1892). Henry died young at age 56 in 1909 but Mary lived on for several decades more, although I don't know exactly when she died yet.

This isn't really the right place to ask but if anyone has any information on Henry Robicsek or his father Mathias Robicsek - though he is named Mathias Robinson on Henry's wedding certificate - I would be extremely grateful.
2010/03/15, 20:03:19
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PaulR: Re: Pillischer
This is very interesting to me as I am researching my great grandfather Henry Robinson.

He was born as Henry Robicsek in 1853 (possibly 1852) in Hungary (although I believe it might now be part of Romania in the Transylvania region). He emigrated to the UK sometime in his twenties, became naturalised, changed his surname (possibly not in that order!) and married Mary Pillischer, daughter of Moritz, in Hove on Tuesday August 1st 1882. I have just received a copy of the WC and it lists witnesses as Julius Magnus (Magius?) and Ignatz Lowe. I can't read the name of the minister properly but it may be Abraham Cl??? Jacob(son?).

They lived in Liverpool and had a son and three daughters. James (b1886) (my grandfather), Bertha (b1889), Lily (b1891) and Vera (Verona) (b1892). Henry died young at age 56 in 1909 but Mary lived on for several decades more, although I don't know exactly when she died yet.

This isn't really the right place to ask but if anyone has any information on Henry Robicsek or his father Mathias Robicsek - though he is named Mathias Robinson on Henry's wedding certificate - I would be extremely grateful.
2010/03/16, 23:00:46
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bolero: Re: Pillischer
Bill
I have an aneroid barometer made by J. Pillischer Ltd. 88 New Bond Street. London. It is a pocket barometer measuring just over 2-3/4" in diameter. Exceptional quality.

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2011/03/23, 06:32:43
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roystonfrance: Re: Pillischer
cameupon a pair of old fashioned spectacles with a central spring to pull open to fit on noseand to eye lugs on endsto add chain.They are in a case with the nameM. Pillischer optician 88 New Bond Street London
Regards Royston Watkins
Dordogne France
2012/01/19, 17:40:02
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roystonfrance: Re: Pillischer
cameupon a pair of old fashioned spectacles with a central spring to pull open to fit on nose and two eye lugs on ends to add chain. They are in a case with the name M. Pillischer optician 88 New Bond Street London
Regards Royston Watkins
Dordogne France
2012/01/19, 17:43:54
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