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Nadine Hardin: Racz Picture
Researching Ann (Racz) Kertai from Raba Potana, Gyor Megye.
Her husband is Emery Kertai:
Indiana, South Bend Tribune, Local Obituary, May 1, 1953.
Emre Kertal.
Emre Kertai, 1224 N. Eclipse St., died 6 a.m. today in St. Joseph Hospital after an illness of four months. He was born Nov. 4, 1877, in Raba Potana, Gyor Megye, Hungary, and came to South Bend in 1904 from Hungary. He was married to Anna Racv who survives with three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emre Jr.; four daughters, Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. John Conjalka, Mrs. Erma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Pajor, all of South Bend; a sister, Mrs. Julia Littai, in Europe, and 14 grandchildren. The body was taken to the Nemeth Funeral Home.

Indiana, South Bend Tribune; Local Obituary, Funeral Notes; May 2, 1953.
KERTAI – The funeral of Emre Kertai, 1244 N. Eclipse St., will be held at 9 a.m. Monday in St. Stephen’s Catholic Church with Rev. Joseph P. Horvath, pastor, officiating. Friends may call in the Nemeth Funeral Home. Pallbearers will be John Arpasi, Joseph Gulas, Victor Gyorkos, Joseph Varro, Joseph Szabo and James Kurnyak. Burial will be in Highland Cemetery. Among the survivors is a daughter, Mrs. Velma Conjalka, South Bend Indiana.

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2003/07/04, 18:59:04
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Nadine Hardin: Racz Kertai
Researching the Racz and Kertai family from Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. Istvan and Mary Racz, parents to Anna Agnes (Kertai), Agnes (Varga) Racz, Erno Racz, and Laci Racz all born in Raba Patona. They live in close proximity to my grandparens, Balint and Rozi (Fejes) Galgoczi, as the Galgoczi families are from Koronco, Gyor, Hungary, and are related. I would like to know if anyone is searching along these family lines. Thank you very much, Nadine

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Local Obituaries; Monday, December 17, 1979.
Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday in St. Joseph's Hospital after a lengthy illness. She was born on July 26, 1886, in Raba Patona, Gyor-Megye, Hungary, and had lived in South Bend since 1908, having come from Hungary. On December 11, 1908, as Anna Agnes Racz, she married Emery A. Kertai, who died on May 1, 1953. Surviving are four daughters, Mrs. Velma Conjalka of Pompano Beach, Fla., and Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. Irma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Tajar (Pajar), all of South Bend, three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emery H., all of South Bend; 18 grandchildren; 35 great-grandchildren; two great-great grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Agnes Varga of Hungary, and two brothers, Erno Racz and Laci Racz, both of Hungary.
Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home. She was a member of St. Stephen's Catholic Church.

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Funeral Notes; Tuesday, December 18, 1979.
KERTAI - Services for Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, who died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday, will be at 10 a.m. Thursday in St. Stephen's Catholic Church. Msgr. Elmer G. Peterson, pastor, will officiate. Burial will be in Highland Cemetery. Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. today and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home, where a wake service will be observed at 7 p.m. Wednesday.
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Manifesto for passenger Anna Racz, line 0023 on the Ultonia Ship, page 0732, arriving in New York on November 09, 1909.

Name: Racz, Anna
Ethnicity: Hungary Magyar
Place of Residence: Rabapatona, Hungary
Date of Arrival: November 09, 1909 (Port of New York)
Age on Arrival: 25y
Gender: F
Marital Status: S
Ship of Travel: Ultonia
Port of Departure: Carnaro, Triest, Austria

0023. Racz, Anna, age 25, single; able to read and write; subject of Hungary (“Magyar”); last permanent residence is Rabapatona; nearest relative from Hungary her father, Istvani ("Istvan") Racz; her final destination is South Bend, Indiana; passenger ticket was paid for by her father; has $26.00 on her person; going to join her brother-in-law, Imre Kertai, living at 1501 S. Catalpa Avenue, South Bend, Indiana. Anna Racz appears to be traveling by herself.
2003/08/18, 08:27:49
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I am actively researching the Raba Patona Roman Catholic Church Records on Microfilm at a Church of the Latter Day Saints.
I am researching my grandfather's paternal lineage of Papai and Lorincz as well as Varro. THe records go from 1715-1895. I would be glad to assist if I can. I have been looking at these films for 4 months already. The Papai family was in this city from 1700 on.
The interesting thing is that I saw something else on Balint Galgoczi-what caught my attention was Mt. Pleasant Michigan-that's where I grew up and mother lives there and has lived in Rosebush, Michigan.
What a small world.
2003/09/13, 01:29:35
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
P.S. The Papais and Varros settled in SOuth Bend, Indiana.
2003/09/13, 01:37:20
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Indeed, what a small world, I have many descendents from Mt. Pleasant, Michigan and visited my Hungarian grandparents, aunts, uncles, and cousins in Mt. Pleasant and Rosebush (nearby). I would love to exchange information. Could you give me the film number you are viewing? I will need to reply in more detail tomorrow, as our roadrunner service went amok and we are waiting on a service all (I am writing this note from work). Thank you so much for replying. Nadine (Hungarian and very proud of it!)
2003/09/13, 02:46:09
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
The films I am looking at are 630845 and 630846. Births, deaths and marriages in Raba Patona from 1715-1895.
All the Hungarian family members were in South Bendm Indiana to begin with. Some went to Michigan to pick sugar beets in about 1930 around Charlotte, MIchigan. 2 brothers stayed in MIchigan so there are Hungarian Papois still there.
I grew up in Mt. Pleasant-my mother and a brother still stay there. I left and lived in CHigago for 20 some years and now live in Northwest Illinois.
I can look up names in the Raba Patona records if you want. I am looking up a Maria Kertai that married an Istvan Papai(he was born in 1857) so I am already involved in some of the names you are, too.
Thanks for responding back. Candace COle.
2003/09/13, 03:26:15
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Candace, would it be a lot of trouble to look up all the KERTAI, RACZ, HORVATH and especially, GALGOCZI families in the films? The Galgoczi family are my grandparents, and their surname is also at this RADIX forum! I also have their history in the Isabella forum (Michigan)under genealogies and histories at the bottom of the web page. My great-grandparents are Stephanus and Rosalia (Horvath) Galgoczi; grandparents are Balint and Rosa (Fejes) Galgoczi. I just mailed off for the death certificate to Imre Kertai, husband to Ann Racz. The Galgoczi, at one time hail from Koronco, close to Raba Patona. Very, very appreciative, Nadine
2003/09/13, 05:22:05
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I copied the information on the Racz family-dates and names I'll look on the ship manifest and see if anyone else from Raba Patona came at the same time as Anna Agnes Racz.
Were the Gaogoczi's in Raba Patona? I know that Racz is not a common name so that should be quite easy. Horvath is a very common name so I will need more in the way of names and approximate dates to get on the right track.
I had copied lots of birth records when I began because there were so many Papais. So I will look through them today and see what I see. I will be going Monday and Wednesday to further research so I will keep you updated.
If you think of anything to add that may help me post another message between now and Monday. I'm going through all the records with a fine toothed comb now to make sure I haven't missed anyone and to finalize some birth and death dates.
A Maria Kertai married a Stephanus Papai in 1880. He was born in 1857-I am looking for her birthdate. Her parents were Istvan Kertai and Terezia Farkas.
Also a Maria Kertai married a Josef Papai in 1911. He was born in 1885. I still have to research her.
My great grandparents were born 1874 and 1881. At one time there were less than 100 houses in RabaPatona. By 1900 there were probably less than 200. It is interesting because in the later years all the births,deaths and marriages had the House Number listed and that helps you trace the particular family.
My great grandparents came to the US in 1909 and 1910. They probably knew the Racz's. Interesting. I will ask some of the older family members if they remember this name.
It is an honor to assist.
Candace Cole.
2003/09/13, 19:48:12
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
2003/09/14, 00:08:13
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Emery (Imre) Kertai’s (b. Nov. 4, 1877) death certificate did not reveal his parents, nor did his wife, Anna (Racz) Kertai (b. July 26, 1886 in Raba P). Anna (Racz) Kertai’s siblings, Erno and Laci Racz, brothers, and Agnes Racz, sister (she married a man with the surname, Varga) – all were in Hungary when Anna died in 1979.

Imre has a sister named Julia. Imre can be seen on the ship manifesto dated Jan 07, 1905, listing his father-in-law as Abraham Ferencz. From Anna Racz’s manifesto she lists her father as Istvani Racz. Imre Kertai and Anna (Racz) Kertai birth years were separated by almost 11 years, so Imre could possibly have lost a first wife before he married Anna Racz.

Note, there is a Nandor Kertai, b. Oct. 5, 1895 that emigrated to So. Bend, also, much later than 1905, from Raba P., I have not been able to connect them!

Anna (Racz) Kertai traveled to Rosebush/Mt. Pleasant Mi. with my father, mother, and Andy Horvath. Andy has a sister called Elizabeth (aka “Seconda” – meaning second born). Elizabeth Horvath married an unknown Voros. The Horvath’s parents are Julia (Julianna) Koller and Stephanus Horvath, and that is how they are connected to my grandfather, “Balint” Galgoczi, son to Stephanus and Rosalia (Horvath) Galgoczi. Kertai – Racz – Horvath – Koller – Voros they all went to South Bend, Indiana early 1900 – 1920s. My grandfather, “Balint” Galgoczi – which you mentioned originally, has really sparked my interest. I would love to know where you came across his name on the film.
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My computer is in the shop, am replying from work.)

Thank you so much, Nadine
2003/09/14, 00:10:49
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I have been looking at a lot of the records I have that I copied. Was the name always spelled Racs? I see several records with the last name Rozs. It makes sense but I will wait until I hear back from you.
I did see a marriage between a Stephanus Varro and a Rosalia Kertai. I am researching the Varro Family since Ethel Papai married Jozsef Varro after coming to the US. They both were born in RabaPatona.
Once I check the date for Anna Racs I will be able to see the spelling they used at the time and I will know where to go from there.
Candace Cole.
2003/09/14, 00:35:18
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
2003/09/14, 02:34:38
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello,
Anna spelled her maiden name RACZ, not RACS. Thank you.
2003/09/14, 02:36:35
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diane eubanks: Re: Racz Kertai
I am researching a family (Palhegyi) where one of the female family members Erzsebet Palhegyi(b.1922) married Ferencz Racz(b.1916). I have communicated with a son from the marriage who still lives in Decsfalva Transylvania. I wondered where your family originated. I am not familiar with the area of Hungary you mention. Is it in Romania now? Is there any chance of a connection? My Palhegyi family settled in Chicago after living in New Castle PA.
Thanks, Diane Palhegyi Eubanks
2003/10/26, 18:11:32
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
I have been researching several families from Rabapatona, Hungary. This is in the County of Gyor in northeastern Hungary near the Austrian border. I am looking now in the Rabapatona Civil Records that cover 1895-1911. The Racz Family I have found had several children born starting in 1884-these are the family members Nadine in the previous messages was looking for. The family had A Ferencz born in 1886 but he passed away as an infant.
I am still looking for descendants of this same family in these years but just got the films yesterday. I am also waiting on some other films from Koronco-a town near Rabapatona to look there for them too.
You should get a reply from Nadine who's family this is, I forwarded your message to her in case she didn't get it from this forum.
My family I am researching includes:Papai,Lorincz,Varro, and many others. Most everyone from these families that came to the US ended up in South Bend, Indiana.
Candace Cole.
2003/10/26, 19:27:38
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, at this juncture, the Racz families I am researching were from Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. Anna Racz married Imre Kertai in South Bend, Indiana and they had many children. Some relatives were in Michigan, but that is all I know. You can contact me at my email address if you would like to exchange more information.

Thank you, Nadine
2003/10/27, 03:49:08
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Diane Eubanks: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello again. I'm afraid the Racz I am researching is most likely another family. Erzsebet Palhegyi and Ferencz Racz are definitely from Transylvania now in Romania. It is possible that Ferencz had relatives in Gyor but it would probably not be a close connection. My grandfather Nicholas Palhegyi had a grandmother who was a Lorincz (Marta b. 1854) but also from Transylvania. A very small village called Matisfalva. They were married there on 6 Sep 1875.

Can I ask you, is there an easy way to find out if there are films for the villages I am researching in Romania? I don't believe they would be available since it has been very difficult to do research there until recently and even now it requires permits. Thanks for your help and quick answers. Diane Eubanks
2003/10/29, 08:57:00
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ccole: Re: Racz Kertai
You can click email me directly with your email and I can give you some more information. I am Candace Cole @ scole -k-u-k-a-c- MWCI.net -p-o-n-t- I would be glad to help.
2003/10/29, 14:22:12
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Jerry Jasper: Re: Racz Kertai
Diane,
Does your Racz connection in Transylvania happen to be from Szatmar County, in particular, Szent Marton or Berend (now all in Satu Mare, Romania)? If so, I have information on this family.
Jerry
2003/11/22, 01:35:02
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Nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, the Racz family in the 1880s are from Raba Patony, Gyor, Hungary. Candi Cole is helping me with this family.
At our family gatherings, my family remembers Anna Racz mentioning she is related to us through the FEJES family. This surname is the maiden name of my grandmother, Rozi (Fejes) Galgoczi. At one time, the Fejes families resided in Sopron, before that era, I do not know where they resided. Candi Cole has been helping me with Anna Racz through mic.film; Anna is daughter to Istvan and Maria Kaloci, siblings-Istvan, Irno, Anton, Agnes, Imre. Thank you, Nadine
2003/11/23, 16:32:51
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Darlene Horvath: Re: Racz Picture
I came across this site while looking for my ancestors. I saw my father's name John Arpasi and my Step grandfather Joseph Gulas.
2004/02/05, 21:11:43
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Eric: RACZ Janos
I seek the Family of RACZ Janos, born in Fuzesgyarmat in October 1936. If you know people and family ties

2004/05/04, 23:13:30
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eric : Re: RACZ Janos
Janos left Hungary in 1956. It went to France... If you know his family...
2004/05/05, 18:01:21
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nadine: Re: RACZ Janos
Hello Eric,
I know of no RACZ that went to France, could you tell me a little more of Janos Racz? His parents? Any brothers or sisters? Origin in Hungary? What year was Janos born?

Thank you for inquiring. Nadine
2004/05/06, 01:44:58
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Marlene Norton: Racz
Does anyone know of Victoria Karasz Racz? She was born in 1889 in either Palanka or Hodschag. She would be the sister of my grandmother.
2004/07/09, 01:08:43
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nadine: Re: Racz
Hello, the only information I have on my Anna Agnes Racz, is she was born July 16, 1886 in Raba Patona, Gyor, Hungary. And a dear friend did some micro-film work from church and civil records that revealed she is the daughter of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloczi; her brothers and sisters are:
Laci, Istvan, Anton, Agnes, Imre, Julianna, Erno, and Lazslo. All born the same area in Hungary.

Thank you, Nadine
2004/07/09, 15:47:16
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Gregg: Re: Racz Kertai
My wife's grandfather was named nandor kertai and he lived in south bend for a very long time.He died in 1994 he was in his late 60's and had his ashes spread from a plane over south bend.I hope this helps in some way .---How did I find you messege?---I was playing around on the internet and searched my wife's grandfathers name because I always thought it sounded so cool. Take care Gregg
2004/08/19, 04:38:53
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, I have OFTEN tried to determine if NANDOR was related to the RACZ-KERTAI connection I have. Someone from your family was researching Nandor, but never replied to my inquiry. Could you tell me a bit more about Nandor?

Thank you very much, Nadine
2004/08/19, 22:20:38
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Marlene Norton: TOTH-RACZ
Does anyone know of Victoria Toth married to a Racz? She was born in 1889 in either Palanka or Hodschag. She would be the sister of my grandmother.
2004/08/19, 22:51:27
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Arpad Domokos: Re: Racz Kertai
My mother is Eniko Racz. Her sisters, Ildiko and Julianna Racz were born in Zilah ( Zalau, Romania) My mother Eniko was born in Szatmar ( Satu Mare, Romania) My grandfather, Gyula Racz was born somewhere in todays Russia. They also lived in Ermihalyfalva for a short perid of time.My granfather married Iren Olah , I think in Nagyvarad(Oradea) moved to Szatmar in the 60s.
2005/02/27, 22:36:17
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
My Anna Racz married Emre Kertai in the US, the following obituary reveals her brothers and sister at the time of her death.

Indiana; South Bend Tribune, Local Obituaries; Monday, December 17, 1979.
Mrs. Anna Agnes Kertai, 93, of 1244 N. Eclipse, died at 8:48 p.m. Sunday in St. Joseph's Hospital after a lengthy illness. She was born on July 26, 1886, in Raba Patona, Gyor-Megye, Hungary, and had lived in South Bend since 1908, having come from Hungary. On December 11, 1908, as Anna Agnes Racz, she married Emery A. Kertai, who died on May 1, 1953. Surviving are four daughters, Mrs. Velma Conjalka of Pompano Beach, Fla., and Mrs. Anna Zsedely, Mrs. Irma Baichley and Mrs. Mary Tajar (Pajor), all of South Bend, three sons, Ernest, Rudolph, and Emery H., all of South Bend; 18 grandchildren; 35 great-grandchildren; two great-great grandchildren; a sister, Mrs. Agnes Varga of Hungary, and two brothers, Erno Racz and Laci Racz, both of Hungary.
Friends may call from 6 to 9 p.m. Tuesday and from 2 to 9 p.m. Wednesday in the Kaniewski and Sons Funeral Home. She was a member of St. Stephen's Catholic Church.
2005/03/01, 06:19:17
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jjaspernc: Re: Racz Kertai
Do you have any earlier record of your RACZ family in Szatmar? I have a Sara RACZ, born 1807, married to Ferenc GASPAR. They lived in Szentmarton, Szatmar. Sara had a sister, Erzsebet RACZ, born 1805, married to Antal MARKUS. They also lived in Szentmarton. Connected was a Rozalia RACZ, born 1754, married to Antal KIS, again of Szentmarton, Szatmar. This RACZ family was of nobility and of the Greco Catholic faith.
2005/03/01, 23:10:57
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello,
Sorry - I cannot go back that far. Wish I could!

Warm regards, Nadine
2005/03/05, 01:56:37
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Jeff: Re: Racz Kertai
I have to apologize; I'm entering this forum without having contributed anything. I'm looking for some history on Racz's in the Warren and Youngstown areas of Ohio. Mike was my grandfather. His sisters were Lizzy and Mary. Mary still lives in the Youngstown area (her married name is Vansuch), and she makes a mean Kolachi. I'm beginning to try my hand at it and after 3 years, I'm getting the hang of the dough. It drives my wife crazy. This message board caught my eye originally when I saw South Bend, IN (I'm an ND grad), and I hate to think that I missed an opportunity while I was there to meet up with some folks. If you know anything about the Racz's of NE Ohio, give me a shout. If you have any favorite recipies I'd love to hear about them too. Best, Jeff
2005/04/02, 06:21:53
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jjaspernc: Re: Racz Kertai
Jeff,
Do you have any additional information on your grandfather Mike Racz and his siblings? If they immigrated to the USA, and you have some additional information, the Ellis Island website would be a good place to start. There are over 1000 Racz surnames on the Ellis Island list so you will need some way to cut down the number. You can do this by using the Hungarian given names (I am assuming they are Hungarian) for Mike and his siblings, but still will be left with a lot of choices. The list can be greatly shortened by approximate arrival date, using the villiage or town name in which they lived, their approximate age at time of arrival and other such parameters. Do you know if they travelled together and/or arrived with one or both of their parents? If they were headed directly for Youngstown, this will also show up on the records. Put together what you can find out about them and give it a try, assuming they did immigrate during the period that Ellis Island was in operation. This should be an easy chore for an ND grad . I would be happy to help you with this but would need some more information to make a reasonable search.

As Mary still lives in Youngstown, she would be a good place to start in gathering the facts that will get you on your way.

Happy hunting!

Jerry

2005/04/02, 14:38:48
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Zlatica: Re: Racz
Jeff

No need to apologize. We are all beginners at one time.
Hopefully you have read all the posts on this board. You need to locate a name of a town in order to proceed with the research. I am sure you know that you start with what you know, YOU and go backwards.
Take a look in www.ellisislandrecords.org You need to register but no money.
A first name translation website : www.fam.aust.com/topolcsany/names
If your ancestor had social security numbers http://ssdi.rootsweb.com you can request the SS-5Form and it should have a place of birth. If your ancestor was naturalized citizen than his naturalization petition should have information, depending when he was naturalized. If he was not naturalized and lived pass 1940 than he would fill out an Alien Registration Form. Unfortunately, you did not provide any dates for us to do a quick search.
www.rat.de/kuijsten/navigator (surname navigator)
You can also check out http://genforum.com www.ancestry.com/share and post your query.
Just a tidbit of information and nothing to do, at this time, with your research as you do not have a name of a town but a surname RACZ and RAC shows up in Slovak Republic's phone book. In a census of names done in 1990 there were 105 RACZs in Poland. Even some listings in Austria.
www.genealogienetz.de/reg
2005/04/02, 15:16:24
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Jim Lakatos: Re: Racz Kertai
My father, an orphan, was raised by Anton Racz in South Bend Indiana. Anton and his wife, Agnes, had no children of their own, but "took in" those in need. I would have not responded, but in the obituary you submitted I saw the name Pajor... two of my father's "foster-brothers" raised by Racz were named Pajor. If this is of interest I can give you birth date (about 1880) and look up the obituary, though most obits printed by the South Bend Tribune only indicate: Hungary

As a child I was familiar with a Kertai bacsi.....might have been your relative.
2005/04/21, 20:57:11
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Jerry, Hello Hoosier!! I too, was raised in South Bend, IN. Yes, Jerry, I would love all the information you can provide, and would cherish it. I know Anton Racz is brother to Anna Racz who married Mr. Kertai. Our family dearly loved Anna, she was a real sweetheart, and she IS related to my maternal grandparents. Oh, what memories you bring back of our Anna. My email is hardin3942 - at - juno.com.

Isten Valetek! Nadine
2005/04/21, 22:44:10
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
My mother is a daughter of Anna Racz who married Emery Kertai. She is the last remaining child of Anna Racz. Her name is Mary Pajor. My parents do not have internet access so I will need to show them this website. I am just beginning to do some geneological research. I am interested in how you obtained the microfilm work from the church and civil records.
2005/04/24, 03:59:40
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nadine: Re: Racz
Hi, I got most of my information from obituaries, a friend looked up microfilm, which I added. But I will look up microfilm also when I retire in two months. You can go to the LDS site (www.familysearch.org) and look for microfilm under Raba Patona (where some RACZ-KERTAI families are from. Also, I mail of for obituaries and death certificates (etc.) from SoBend, my home town (I now live in FlA). Raba Patona (Hungary) is just across some r.r. tracks from Koronco, where my grandfather (Balint Galgoczi) is from, and they are related to each other!

There were other RACZ families in South Bend, Anton Racz was the only brother I could find to Anna Racz Kertai. Could you tell me if other RACZ families in SoBend are related? I would really appreciate that.

Anna (Racz) Kertai used to visit us so often at our home where I was raised. We cherished her! She ALWAYS had a smile on her face. Look under Galgoczi at this site (under surnames).

I would love to hear from you again (hardin3942 - at - juno.com). Nadine
2005/04/24, 04:52:56
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LPSami: Re: Racz Kertai
This is my great great grandmother! If anyone is related, please contact me and nevanihon29sy -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- com !! Thank you!
2005/06/07, 05:38:01
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kb9778: Re: Racz
I'm not sure this helps you, but, my mother (Julia) and her sister (Margaret) immigrated from Gyor in 1956. Julia settled in NJ while Margaret settled with her husband in Mishawaka IN. A sister remained in Gyor and brother in Pest; all the sisters were born in the 1930s.
2005/12/12, 00:18:50
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I now know that Anna Racz is connected to my maternal grandmother, Roza Fejes who married Balint (Walter) Galgoczi(please see Galgoczi or Fejes at this site). This connection would be in Hungary. I have no other information at this time. Nadine
2006/01/20, 03:59:12
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Kathleen Parr: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Nadine,
I have been trying to find my great great aunt and her name was Lidi/Lidia Pár she was born tenyohegy 1871 ,I am not sure
but I think she married a Racz. I was wondering if you had ever heard of her. Also i hear of so many hungarians that have gone to south bend, Indidna. I am trying to trace my cousins steps her name Gizella Molnar and I think she married an antal molnar{same spelling}they moved to south bend,st joseph county, indiana. Do you know of any molnars
that were in south bend. I am going to say they married around 1906.
thank you,
kathleen parr
2006/02/12, 20:55:35
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Kathleen,
Yes, I do know of Molnars that lived in South Bend, Steve, Frank, and Emery (Imre) Molnar all brothers, the later one a dear friend of my father (who was born 1910). I did have them in a South Bend census living near my grandparents, and most of the brothers attended my father, my grandfather, and my grandmother's funerals. I personally remember Emery Molnar. Click on profile at this forum and you will see my email address. I can help you in your search, or at least try. Nadine
2006/02/12, 22:14:55
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Kathy: Re: Racz Kertai
Could I have any information on Anna Zsedeley who was Emre and Anna Kertai's daughter? Thank You.
2006/09/07, 00:36:28
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
I am the oldest grand-daughter of Anna Zsedely. What would you like to know?
2007/07/06, 17:46:11
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marianne: Re: Racz
Hi,Carol Jean. How is the research coming along on the family history? I am your parents godchild, Marianne Zsedely. My sisters and I are planning a trip to Hungary in 2009 to celebrate my sister, Chris' 50th birthday. How are your parents doing? Do they still come to Venice, Fl which is where I live.
2007/07/06, 17:51:00
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
Marianne,
My parents are well. The research is somewhat slow but we have made contact with various relatives in my mom's area of Gyor and my father's area of Sopron. Our son James who is in college studied abroad and was able to spend a week in Hungary with the relatives. One of my mom's cousins has sent information about the family which I will look up. Things have been very busy with my immediate family - marriages, births, within the last year so I am late replying to this post. I would love to go to Hungary someday. I do remember you and am glad to hear how you are doing. They haven't been to Venice lately. I will share this post with them.
2007/07/16, 03:57:52
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz
Some helpful information:
I have been corresponding with Szalai Anita who my son visited.
Anita is the grand daughter of Jeno Papai. Jeno was the son of Julianna Racz who was the sister of Anna Racz (Kertai).
Jeno was married to Margit Arpasi (Papai Jenone). Margit is still alive in Rabapatone where Anna is from. Jeno's daughters include: Terus who has two daughers, Andrea and Anita living in Gyor and Julianna who has a son Karoly. I will share more history as the time goes on.

Marianne - contact me at joyous_grandma -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- com

2007/07/16, 16:33:34
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pat: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
Your Molnar family interests me. Did the sisters include Elsi & Sophie? I too have a few memories of Catalpa St.
Please feel free to contact direct.
2007/07/16, 17:59:40
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Carol Jean: Re: Racz Kertai
My mother, Mary Kertai Pajor, daughter of Anna Racz Kertai gave me the following information.
Mary Rose Kertai Pajor's brothers include: Earnest, Rudolph, Emery. Her sisters include: Anna Kertai Zsedeley, Velma Kertai Conjalka, Irma Kertai Baichley, Gizella Kertai (died two days old.)
Mary Kertai Pajor's parents were: Emery Andrew Kertai - Gyor, Hungary and Anna Agnes Racz Kertai - Gyor (Raba Patona)
Emery had married previously but his wife had died and no children. Anna was his second wife.
Emery Andrew Kertai sisters included: Mari Kertai Pail - Josef Ne; Juliska Kertai Liptai-Josef; his brother was Sandor Kertai.
Anna Racz Kertai's brothers included: Erno, Laczi, Janos, Anthony and her sisters Agnes Racz Varga,Laslo and Juliska Racz Papoi- Jose.

Emery Kertai's parents included Andrew Kertai and Theresa Roka Kertai. Andrew's parents were Matti Kertai and Maria Kish Kertai. Theresa Roka Kertai's parents included Janos Roka and Betty Varro Roka.

Anna Agnes Racz Kertai's parents were Stepehn Racz and Maria Kaloci Racz. Stephen's parents were John Racz and Katlin Sagi Racz. Maria Kaloci Racz's parents were Janos Kaloci and Ethel Karhuz Kaloci.

I hope this helps as people research further. It will benefit all of us. I especially would like to know my roots too.
Carol Pajor Miller (South Bend, IN)
2007/07/16, 23:48:44
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
Thank you so much for the information on the Kertai and Racz family tree. Your mother has a great memory. I tried to e-mail you direct and I could not because of some error. My e-mail is marianne4fsu -k-u-k-a-c- comcast.net -p-o-n-t- Best regards to you and your family.
2007/07/17, 15:41:29
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marianne: Re: Racz Kertai
Thank you so much for the information on the Kertai and Racz family tree. Your mother has a great memory. I tried to e-mail you direct and I could not because of some error. My e-mail is marianne4fsu -k-u-k-a-c- comcast.net -p-o-n-t- Best regards to you and your family.
2007/07/17, 15:42:08
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I also am very interested in the information. As Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (b.16 Jul 1886 Rabapatona) was a dear friend and related to my grandfather "Balint Galgoczi" via the marriage of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloci, Anna Agnes's parents. Anna used to attend all our Hungarian family functions on Brookfield Street in South Bend, she was a dear friend of ours and is related to my Galgoczi grandfather. At one time, my great-great Galgoczi grandfather lived in Rabapatona, my grandfather, Balint, was from Koronco, Hungary. I am attempting to connect Galgoczi families to the Kaloci (also spelled Kaloczi) families. My Galgoczi families go way, way back in Hungary (see Galgoczi this forum). Thank you very much, Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
2007/07/19, 20:39:50
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I also am very interested in the information. As Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (b.16 Jul 1886 Rabapatona) was a dear friend and related to my grandfather "Balint Galgoczi" via the marriage of Istvan Racz and Marie Kaloci, Anna Agnes's parents. Anna used to attend all our Hungarian family functions on Brookfield Street in South Bend, she was a dear friend of ours and is related to my Galgoczi grandfather. At one time, my great-great Galgoczi grandfather lived in Rabapatona, my grandfather, Balint, was from Koronco, Hungary. I am attempting to connect Galgoczi families to the Kaloci (also spelled Kaloczi) families. My Galgoczi families go way, way back in Hungary (see Galgoczi this forum). Thank you very much, Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
2007/07/19, 20:40:11
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
The Molnar family were dear friends to my Farkas/Szabo grandmother and our family as well. Emery Molnar was one of my father's best buddies. I remember Frank Molnar (from video's) and another Molnar brother, one was an attorney in South Bend and smoked a pipe. Emery Molnar had a great hobby, taking movie films of his family/boat trips. The Molnars and my family had picnics, played cards, etc. together. Nadine (hardin3942 @ juno.com)
2007/07/19, 20:51:15
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Pat: Re: Racz Kertai Molnar
I don't have anything on an Emery Molnar, only Louis, Steve, Frank, Eugene, Andy and 3 or 4 sisters. Perhaps a different family as Molnar was/is quite common.
2007/07/20, 00:38:46
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello, my name is Nadine and I live in Florida, I was born and raised in South Bend, Indiana; I am 67 years old. I have been researching a lot of Hungarians in my family from Rabapatona. Other locations include Koronco, both are in close proximity and both are in Gyor County, Hungary. Also, Budapest.

My great-grandfather Istvan Galgoczi (spelled with a leading G) lived at one time in Rabapatona when his son, Aladar (Andrew) Galgoczi was born; Istvan Galgoczi married Rozalia Horvath. My Kaloczi connection is taken from my bible when I wrote down Kaloczi, my mother remembered the surname who said this Kaloczi is connected to my grandparents, Istvan Galgoczi and Rozalia (Fejes) Galgoczi. Also, Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai (see picture, this forum) was related to us, she was a dear friend of our family and is related to us, but I have yet to make a positive connection with documents. Anna Agnes visited my grandfather, Balint/Walter Galgoczi in Michigan (son to Istvan Galgoczi and Rozalia Horvath) and made many trips to Michigan with my parents and Andras (Cato) Horvath – see below. Anna Agnes (Racz) Kertai went with relatives to meet Andras at the boat when he first arrived in the US, he was about six years old; she also had relatives in Michigan she visited at the same time she visited my grandarents.

You also mentioned Horvath, I have the following Horvaths, all from the areas I earlier mentioned:

Istvan Horvath m. Julianna Koller in Rabapatona (all below are confirmed). They had four known children: Martha Horvath (married Mr. Czvitko) – they stayed in Hungary; Elizabet Horvath (married Nickolaus Voros) – Elizabet imm. to South Bend, In.; Andras Cato Horvath (married Teresa Schreiner) – a twin to brother Anton Horvath – Andras imm. to South Bend, In.; Anton Horvath – twin brother to Andras Cato Horvath (his birth/naturalization documents say he is from Rabapatona) – he imm. to NY, then Pennsylvania. Istvan Horvath and Julianna Koller were born about 1860s. All their children were born 1880s (I have exact dates if you need them). I met personally Andras Cato Horvath and Elizabet Horvath, our families visited each other often. In his later years, Andras Cato Horvath traveled to Hungary and visited relatives in Budapest, Koronco, and Rabapatona.

You can get exact dates, pictures and various documents by viewing the following surnames at this forum:

Galgoczi
Kertai
Racz
Horvath
Fejes

I am very interested in connecting the Kaloczi families to my grandparents (or great grandparents), the Galgoczi/Fejes/Horvath families
2007/07/24, 17:54:37
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
I visited your parents' gravesite in Highland Cemetery (and the Kertai's) when I was in So.Bend, Indiana to attend my brother's funeral. Nadine
2007/07/24, 17:59:04
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KathleenParr: Re: Racz Kertai
Hello Nadine there are alot of Kaloczi's and many different
spellings. We are related to Kaloczi's and Horvath from Gyor. There were many as there were many Horvaths. Gyula/
Juluis Kaloczi married Angelika Par. Erzsebét Horvath is who I am trying to locate. She was my great grandmother and married Farkas Par/Paar/Gaar. There was also Galgoczi as godparents. I keep going and looking up info from LDS
records. They made it from Mt. Carmel Pa. to Cleveland and moved again. By the way I know of a Verona Horvath Salem who was a fantastic cook and baker. Can't find her anywhere, the spellings of names change so much thru out their travels , that it is hard to locate people. I believe Juluis Kaloczi , from Hungary , had a sister or cousin from Hungary, named Maria. Go onto the Kaloczi board, they are looking. Hope I can help a little.
2007/07/25, 02:28:55
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Kathleen, thank you for replying.

You said you found Galgoczi Godparents in some of your finds. Back then,especially in Hungary (our interests) Godparents were usually related to the child being born.

I have seen your posting over the years, and believe I have talked to you before. Email me your interests, and if I come across anything, I will contact you. South Bend was like "little Hungary" when I was a young child. Again, thank you. Nadine

2007/07/25, 13:26:39
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mamaracz: Karol and Rozalia Racz
I am doing research on the Racz family.

Our Line is as follows:

Descendants of Charles Racz:

1 Charles Racz 1880 - 1952, m.Rosalia Ambrus 1883 - 1934;
2 Charles Racz 1907 - 1986, m.Jennie Kovacs b. 1910;
3 Charles Albert Racz b. 1931, m.Leona Mae Call 1934 - 1999.

According to the Ellis Island Ship Manifests Charles Racz arrived in America on the Ship Uranium on September 06, 1910 with his wife and two sons from Vasaegerszeg, Hungary. His trip was paid for by his brother in law Antoin Ambrus. They settled in East Chicago, Indiana. Of course his name was originally Karol Racz with Sons, Karoly and Mihaly Racz.

Although they Settled in Indiana, I can find no connection with the South Bend family. Any information would be helpful.

Natasha
2007/07/25, 20:02:38
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mamaracz: Karol and Rozalia Racz
I am doing research on the Racz family.

Our Line is as follows:

Descendants of Charles Racz:

1 Charles Racz 1880 - 1952, m.Rosalia Ambrus 1883 - 1934;
2 Charles Racz 1907 - 1986, m.Jennie Kovacs b. 1910;
3 Charles Albert Racz b. 1931, m.Leona Mae Call 1934 - 1999.

According to the Ellis Island Ship Manifests Charles Racz arrived in America on the Ship Uranium on September 06, 1910 with his wife and two sons from Vasaegerszeg, Hungary. His trip was paid for by his brother in law Antoin Ambrus. They settled in East Chicago, Indiana. Of course his name was originally Karol Racz with Sons, Karoly and Mihaly Racz.

Although they Settled in Indiana, I can find no connection with the South Bend family. Any information would be helpful.

Natasha
2007/07/25, 20:04:46
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Natasha

I did leave you a post on Ancestry board.
That is not what their manifest says.
Karoly would be Hungarian spelling.
http://topolcsanyi.alphalink.com.au/names
2007/07/25, 20:55:53
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Natasha

I do not find a town Vasaegerszeg. Of course, it is misspelled.
Go to www.bogardi.com click on 1913 Gazatteer to give you 7 towns in old Hungary that have "egerszeg" in their name.
Did your ancestor speak Magyar? If they did, why did they come under a "Slavic" spelling of their first name and not Hungarian? Did you find your ancestors on 1930 census? Does it say Na-naturalized, Al-alien or Pa-first paper? Those words would be a clue as what documents to locate for a precise place of birth.
2007/07/25, 21:10:40
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Zlatica : Re: Mihal, Karol naturalized citizen
Natasha

Yes, the manifest says they are Magyar.
Did you notice that Mihal and Karol have a set of numbers by their name on the manifest? Have you followed up on the set of numbers? They should lead to a naturalization petition which should have a precise place of birth.
2007/07/25, 21:17:30
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mamaracz: Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
To everyone who has taken the time to reply, Thank You.
It has been tremendously helpful.
I am going to pursue the Naturalization records next.
Is there an easier way to go about this than writing the INS?

Thanks again. I will post again when I find new info.

Natasha
2007/07/29, 18:51:41
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jracz: Re: Racz Kertai
Hi Jerry, it's been ages since I've been here, but in the mean time I've been able to track down some info.

It looks like it was my great grandfather who immigrated to the US. He may have come with his wife, I'm not sure. Her last name was Papista. I have a copy of his death certificate and on it it lists his birthplace as Hajdu, M. H.Boszormeny. My uncle gave me some info and it looks like the city's actually Hajduboszormeny. My questions are only a few at this point. Is the naming convention common, i.e., is Hajdu a state or county or something and is / was Boszormeny a city or town? I did check out the ellis island site, and it's interesting but I can't really make any real information out on it. Now that I'm to this point, does the ellis island site have much to offer? Has anyone else heard of Hajduboszormeny? Anyone ever been there?

Thanks,
2007/10/24, 05:39:16
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Zlatica : Re: Racz, Papista
Hi jracz

You need to register to www.ellisislandrecords.org (no money) to view the manifest. Some manifests have 2 pages so click previous and next in that case. Lots of information on most of the EI manifests. Use One step/gold form www.stevemorse.org to locate people from a Hajduboszormany/Hajduboszormeny etc.
An old 1910 Hungarian megye map:
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910
The village Hajduboszormeny is in Hajdu megye, Hungary.
Have you posted on Ancestry and Genforum board?
www.progenealogists.com/hungary
www.felix-game.ca
www.surnamenavigator.org
2007/10/24, 15:37:35
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adrienne: looking for relatives!
Hello!

My name is Adrienne Guilmette, my parents are Paul A Sadeczky, and Ilona J (Racz) Sadeczky. Maternal Grandparents are Istvan Racz and Margit Steiger. Looking for relatives!

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2007/12/24, 16:11:44
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Zlatica : Re: Sadeczky, Racz
Hi Adrienne

Where are you looking for relatives, Hungary?
www.magyartelekom.hu/fooldal.vm
www.kuijsten.de/navigator
www.infospace.com
www.411.com

p.s. lets put the relatives names in the subject line.
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adrienne: Re: Racz
Hello,

Do you know if Istvan (or son) married Margit Steiger? Children are, Margit, Katlin, Ilona, and a daughter who died at 6mos old.
2007/12/24, 17:12:28
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Zlatica : Re: Racz
Adrienne

What time frame? Do you have town? I am in US.
2007/12/24, 17:25:28
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 Racz - Bakonyszentkiraly_[magyarszentkiraly] fórumban: Tremmel: Rácz Péter
mamaracz: Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Hello Again!

I received copies of the Naturalization records in the mail today. Karol petitioned for Naturalization from Albany, Louisiana. Both Rosalia and Karol were born in Holdmezo-vasarhely, Csongrad, Hungary. Their two oldest children were born in Roman Reszioza, Hungary. The images are not high quality so this is the best that I can make out. Any idea where Roman Reszioza, Hungary is? Any suggestions of where I should go next, to dig deeper?

Thank you for all of your help!!

~Natasha
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Zlatica : Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
Hi Natasha

Hodmezo-Vasarhely, Csongrad megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910 right side of the map
http://lazarus.elte.hu/autotk
Church records of Hodmezovasarhely in LDS-Mormons (Family History Center).
Juliana RACZ from Rodmesavarsarhely arr. in 1913 thru EI.
www.ellisislandrecords.org
Can you attach a scan of the image where the Roman Reszioza is written? I am not having any success locating the village with that (mis)spelling.
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Zlatica : Re: Hodmezo-Vasarhely on Lazarus map
~Natasha

http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/200e/38-46.jpg
top of the map page 38 scroll down one turn to see HODMEZO-VASARHELY.

Is Roman to be short for Romania?
Reszioza a Reschitza/Resita/Resicabanya, now Romania? Is it possible that RomanReszioza is an aweful (mis)spelling of Hodmezovasarhely? If they were born in Hodmezovasarhely, they also were married there, would the children not be born there? Of course it would depend on the occupation of your Karol/Karoly ancestor. Do you know Rosalia's maiden name?
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Zlatica : Re: Hodmezovasarhely
~Natasha

www.hodmezovasarhely.hu
use one step/gold form www.stevemorse.org to find people from your ancestral village that came thru Ellis Island.
2008/02/01, 21:17:55
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mracz: Re: Racz Kertai
Dear Nadine

hope you are fine. Just wanted to tell you my grand-grandfather György Racz was born in Csorna, (a place close to Rabapatona) in 1844, he died 1915. My grandpa József Racz was born 1882 and died in 1956 just some days before the revolution. Will try to get more info on them - will post if I trace that there is any relationship to your ancestors.
Wish you all the best
Miklós
2008/02/02, 10:11:27
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Kedves Miklos,
Nagyon szepen kosonum (thank you very much)!
Nadine
2008/02/02, 14:34:39
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mamaracz: Re: Karol and Rozalia Racz
I scanned in images of the papers that I received. They are located:

http://p4.hostingprod.com/ -k-u-k-a-c- agesofages -p-o-n-t- com/genealogy/Charles_Racz_Naturalization_1910_1922/

I am hoping to find a more permanent home for them, but for now this should do.

Please remember that the copies that I received were very poor quality.

~Natasha
2008/02/03, 00:45:04
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mamaracz: Re: Hodmezo-Vasarhely on Lazarus map
Rosalia's maiden name was Ambrus or Ambras. Karol was a farmer. They came to the US by boat in 1910. They petitioned for naturalization between 1913 and 1919 and were finally naturalized in 1922. I suspect that the reason the first petition was denied was because of a change in government in Austria Hungary and a declaration of war by the US.
I noticed that the town of Hodmezovasarhely was located near the current Romanian border. I wonder if they said Roman to indicate Romania because it was a part of Hungary and was occupied by Romania. I am just speculating. War changes things. I posted a link to the original documents in my previous post. You can see the Homezovasarhely was typed on the same page as Romanreszioza, so I think that they were able to distinguish between the cities.
This is so much fun!! Thank you for your help.

Natasha
2008/02/03, 00:54:16
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mamaracz: Karol Racz
I have been doing some searching about the town name
and a town in Transylvania, formally called Románszentgyörgy, Hungary. It is now called Singeorz-Bâi, Romania. I don't know any Hungarian and I am wondering if this name sounds anything like Romanreszioza which is listed on the naturalization documents? Also, Do you know if this town would be farming community, since Karol was a farmer?

Thanks,
Natasha
2008/02/06, 23:34:08
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Janos: Romanreszioza / Roman Resicza
Dear Natasha,
The closest for Romanreszioza is (Roman)Resicza, which is a town in Romania. A lot of Hungarians from Transylvania were working there as miners.
Janos - from Transylvania (Romania)
2008/02/07, 06:07:29
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Nancy Upham: Re: TOTH-RACZ
Can you please help me? I am just starting my genealogy research into my Hungarian branch of the family. I saw that you are interested in the families Toth and Racz and since those are my family names I am hoping to research, I thought perhaps you could help.

My Toth family member was Mary Barbara Toth (Maria Borbola Toth) - daughter of Joseph Toth and Barbara Nemeth Toth (Borbola Nemeth Toth). Joseph and Barbara Toth had 2 children: Mary Barbara and Joseph. They were from Mezokovsed, Hungary.

Mary Barbara Toth was married to Matyas Racz (born March 8, 1870 and died December 1, 1935), a farmer. I believe they were married in 1894. They were both from Mezokovesd, Hungary. He emigrated to the United States boarding the sailing ship Columbia, which departed from Hamburg, Germany, on April 23, 1902. He arrived at Ellis Island New York on May 3, 1902 with a travel destination of 3 Walnut Street, Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. He traveled with several other men, all going to the same address to see a "friend" - Adam??? who probably recruited the Hungarians to work at the iron and steel mills in Pennsylvania. Matyas, who is shown on family records with the spelling Mathias, later moved to Ohio, probably to work for what is now US Steel, where many of his descendents still live.

I'm not sure if his wife, May Barbara, emigrated with him at the same time or later. They are said to have left several children behing in Hungary. The remaining children were born in Pennsylvania and Ohio - my grandmother, Mary Ann Racz, among them.

I am attaching a picture of Barbara Nemeth Toth with her son, Joseph Toth and his family - taken in Hungary.

Any info you can give me, either on my relatives (possibly yours) or how to conduct research about people in Hungary, will be gratefully appreciated - Nancy Upham

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2008/02/08, 01:49:21
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Nancy Upham: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
Can you please help me? I am just starting my genealogy research into my Hungarian branches of the family - TOTH, RACZ, and NEMETH.

My Toth family member was Mary Barbara Toth (Maria Borbola Toth) - daughter of Joseph Toth and Barbara Nemeth Toth (Borbola Nemeth Toth). Joseph and Barbara Toth had 2 children: Mary Barbara and Joseph. They were from Mezokovsed, Hungary.

Mary Barbara Toth was married to Matyas Racz (born March 8, 1870 and died December 1, 1935), a farmer. I believe they were married in 1894. They were both from Mezokovesd, Hungary. He emigrated to the United States boarding the sailing ship Columbia, which departed from Hamburg, Germany, on April 23, 1902. He arrived at Ellis Island New York on May 3, 1902 with a travel destination of 3 Walnut Street, Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. He traveled with several other men, all going to the same address to see a "friend" - Adam??? who probably recruited the Hungarians to work at the iron and steel mills in Pennsylvania. Matyas, who is shown on family records with the spelling Mathias, later moved to Ohio, probably to work for what is now US Steel, where many of his descendents still live.

I'm not sure if his wife, May Barbara, emigrated with him at the same time or later. They are said to have left several children behing in Hungary. The remaining children were born in Pennsylvania and Ohio - my grandmother, Mary Ann Racz, among them.

I am attaching a picture of Barbara Nemeth Toth with her son, Joseph Toth and his family - taken in Hungary.

Any info you can give me, either on my relatives (possibly yours) or how to conduct research about people in Hungary, will be gratefully appreciated - Nancy

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2008/02/08, 01:55:42
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feketeerzsi: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
Rácz-Makai család Hungaria Hajdu-Bihar-Megye:Püspökladány . Rácz János 1925 12 18. Makai Erzsébet 1929 10 16. Rácz Piroska,Rácz Sándor,Rácz Margit,Rácz erzsébet,Rácz Lajos Rácz Ilona. Testvérek.Apjuk Rácz János. anya Lövei Eszter.
2008/04/02, 19:06:06
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Nagy László: Re: Racz Kertai
Próbáltam elolvasni levelét:-) A családom Hajdúböszörményben lakik és az én őseim Rácz között van Rácz nevezetű.
Rácz Mária 1797 és édesapja Rácz András 1767 ha valamit tud a leszármazókról kérem írjon Tisztelettel Nagy László
2008/04/21, 21:45:30
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Nagy László: Re: Racz, Papista
Próbáltam elolvasni levelét:-) A családom Hajdúböszörményben lakik és az én őseim Rácz között van Rácz nevezetű.
Rácz Mária 1797 és édesapja Rácz András 1767 ha valamit tud a leszármazókról kérem írjon Tisztelettel Nagy László
2008/04/21, 21:47:51
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nancy upham: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
I see where you responded to my inquiry - thank you. However, I can neither speak nor read Hungarian. Can you help me translate this into English? I would be so grateful.

Thank you once again for your effort to respond to my posting.

Nancy
2008/07/21, 15:37:34
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MARLENE_NORTON: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
I can't read Hungarian, either, but I have a Toth from Backa Palanka who married a Racz. I see one of the Hungarian responses had "Fekete" as part of the name and the name Fekete is linked to my Toth line. My great grandmother, Victoria Toth, came to America in 1952 to Cincinati. She was in her 80's at the time. At the time she said she had one living daughter, Victoria Raxz. she hadn't seen in 15 years so I know Victoria no longer lived in Backa Palanka but I don't know where she lived.

Marlene.
2008/07/21, 16:28:02
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Edes Natasha,
I know where Csorna is on the map, and your are so right, it is near Rabapatona. I have difficulty pulling up the documents from the site you gave me, could you please give it againa. I have a feeling we are connected. Thank you very much, Nadine
2008/07/21, 17:56:53
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Edes Natasha,
I know where Csorna is on the map, and your are so right, it is near Rabapatona. I have difficulty pulling up the documents from the site you gave me, could you please give it againa. I have a feeling we are connected. Thank you very much, Nadine
2008/07/21, 17:57:46
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mamaracz: Re: Racz Kertai
http://p4.hostingprod.com/ -k-u-k-a-c- agesofages -p-o-n-t- com/genealogy/Charles_Racz_Naturalization_1910_1922/
2008/07/21, 19:47:40
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mamaracz: Re: Racz Kertai
Nadine-

I would love to find out if we are related. The link still works. Make sure you are replacing -d-o-t- with . and at with @. I look forward to hearing from you.

Natasha
2008/07/21, 19:50:31
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charlesn: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
I'm not sure if this might be the same family but I have information as follows:

Janos Racz (1926), Father: Janos Racz, Mother: Eszter Nagy (1896), Janos' brothers/sisters: Julianna (1917-1984), Margit (1919), Joszef (1922-1984). Eszter was I believe born in Ujfeherto.

If you think this is the same family then please let me know. Also if anyone has any information I would appreciate receiving it. Most of the additional information I have is on Eszter's brothers/sisters, .... etc. but I can't find any references to Racz in the Ujfeherto area though my mother indicates that they were married and lived in Ujfeherto (not to say that they didn't move at some point?)
2008/08/10, 02:52:56
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charlesn: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
Sorry I made a mistake on the previous post.

Janos Racz's wife was Julianna Nagy (1894-1988) not Eszter.

Julianna's brothers/sisters were Janos (1888-1910), Eszter (1896), and Maria (1901-1983).
2008/08/10, 03:08:30
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Margie: Racs -Somogyi
Wanted to know for genealogy, if anyone has in their data of names, the name of my uncle by marriage, Mr. Michael Somogyi born Wien Austria 1905 died Calif 1961. He was a musician and was married to Johanna Wilhelmina Hoogvelt in the Neth Indies in the later 1930's. I understand his mothers last name was Racs ? But dont know anything else besides that. Appreciate any help, thank you.
2008/08/14, 17:44:45
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Margie: Re: Racs -Somogyi
Sorry for my mistake above. His name was Michael Alexander Somogyi born Wien 1905 and died in California USA in 1960 not 1961. I dont know the exact spelling of his mothers last name.... It could be Rac, Racs, or Racz. I understand his family roots were in Hungary. Thanks in advance.
2008/08/15, 07:25:54
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 Racz - Nagyszenas fórumban: Neubauer: felmenő
 Racz - Nagyszenas fórumban: Neubauer: felmenő
mamaracz: Racz DNA
Hi everyone,

My husband is a Racz. We are looking into having his paternal Y-Chromosome DNA tested. I wondered if anyone here has had this done, so that we could compare notes. I thought that it would be interesting to see if we all connected.

Thanks,

Natasha
2009/01/01, 23:26:23
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mamaracz: Re: Racz DNA
Hi all!

We had my husband's Paternal DNA tested. He is a Racz. We trace his genealogy back to Hungary. He is from the Haplogroup E1b1b. Thought that you might find that interesting.

Natasha
2009/01/30, 23:34:16
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Berekméri Árpád-Róbert: keresés-kérés
Tisztelt Rácz család!
Berekméri Árpád-Róbert levéltáros vagyok Marosvásárhelyről! A 27. székely hadosztály és tisztikarának történetével foglalkozom. Ez ügyben keresem Rácz Antal Kálmán tartalékos zászlós hozzátartozóit. A zászlós úr 1919. 03. 13-án született Miskolcon (édesanyja Mizser Katalin, édesapja ?) és hadosztály kötelékében szakaszparancsnokként teljesített hadiszolgálatot.
Az esetleges információkat a barobert2002 -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- com emailcímre várom.
Köszönöm!
Szívélyes üdvözlettel,
Berekméri Árpád-Róbert
2009/07/25, 08:21:54
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nupham: Re: Looking for Toth, Racz, and Nemeth family info Mezokovsed, Hungary
Thank you for the information you posted.

I am curious as to the names of the Toth and the Racz to whom they married. Also, if you have a date and location that would be very helpful as well.

Do you know any other information related to the Toth line?

Thanks again - Nancy
2009/07/26, 18:41:08
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hugoapi: Keresés ...
Rácz József vagyok és keresném a Zala megyei Tekenyéhez valamilyen formában kapcsolódó Ráczokat. Nagyapám ott született néhai Rácz Mihály gyermekeként 1892 évben és a keresztségben a József nevet kapta. A család szétszóródott, de a keresés remélem nem lesz meddő betűszórás.
2009/09/27, 19:19:19
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hugoapi: Re: Search ...
József Rácz and I am searching for some form of Zala County Tekenyéhez related Ráczokat. My grandfather was born a child of the late Michael Racz year 1892 and was baptized with the name Joseph. The family is scattered, but I hope your search will not be useless attempt.
2009/09/27, 19:23:21
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Emilia Kollath: Re: keresés-kérés
üdvözletem,

nagymamám(aki 1927-ben született) rokonságban áll egy Rácz Rozália nevű hölggyel, aki Miskolc környékén élt, megpróbálok többet megtudni róla, lehetséges, hogy rokonok.

Ha valaki a fórumon tud valamit egy Rácz Rozália nevű rokonról, aki Miskolc környékén (tallám Ómasán vagy Hámorban) élt, kérem írjon a kolor-k-u-k-a-c-freemail-p-o-n-t-hu címre.

2009/10/21, 02:22:31
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bmarinka: Re: keresés-kérés
Édesanyám Rácz Jolán, született: Mezőgyán, 1938. február 26-án.Édesapja Rácz Imre (születési adatait nem tudom), édesanyja Vári Róza.Mivel a nagyszüleim elváltak, a Rácz családról semmi információm nincs.Így a Rácz családot keresem.
2010/02/13, 18:01:42
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nupham: Racz/Toth/Nemeth Family Help????
Can you please help me with additional information about my relatives:

Joseph Toth born 1826 died 1880
was married to Barbara(Borbala) Nemeth who was born in 1835 died in 1880

Their daughter Mary Barbara (Maria Borbala) Toth was born Dec 8, 1877 in Mezokovesd, Hungary and died Feb 20, 1942 in Stratton, Ohio.

Matyas Racz, a farmer, emigrated to the United States from Mezokovesd, Hungary when he was 32 years old. On April 23, 1902 he boarded the sailing ship Columbia, which departed from Hamburg Germany. He arrived at Ellis Island New York on May 3, 1902, with $10.00 and a travel destination of 3 Walnut Street, Phoenixville, Pennsylvania. He traveled with several other men, all going to the same address to see "friend - Adam ???", who probably recruited the Hungarians to work at the iron and steel mills in Pennsylvania. Matyas, who is shown on family records with the spelling Mathias, later moved to Ohio, probably to work for what is now US Steel, where many of his decendants still live. He was married to Mary Barbara Toth (Maria Borbala Toth) who was also from Mezokovesd, Hungary. They are said to have left several children behind in Hungary, the remaining were born in Pennsylvania and Ohio.

I have a picture of Borbala (or Borbola) Nemeth Toth with Joseph Toth, his wife, and 3 children taken in Budapest in the early 20th century...
2010/04/18, 05:02:42
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Nadine: Racz - Kertai
Could someone please help me on locating cemeteries in Rabapatona, Hungary. I was doing research on the 1830s to the 1880s for the Racz and Kertai families and although the births, deaths and marriages occured in Rabapatona, Gyor County, Hungary - I could not find one single reference to cemeteries. Is there a site I can access and find listings for cemeteries in Hungary, especially the early 1830 - 1880 era. Thank you very much! Nadine
2010/04/28, 04:43:24
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Nadine: Racz - Kertai
Could someone please help me on locating cemeteries in Rabapatona, Hungary. I was doing research on the 1830s to the 1880s for the Racz and Kertai families and although the births, deaths and marriages occured in Rabapatona, Gyor County, Hungary - I could not find one single reference to cemeteries. Is there a site I can access and find listings for cemeteries in Hungary, especially the early 1830 - 1880 era. Thank you very much! Nadine
2010/04/28, 04:43:31
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Nadine: Racz - Kertai
Could someone please help me on locating cemeteries in Rabapatona, Hungary. I was doing research on the 1830s to the 1880s for the Racz and Kertai families and although the births, deaths and marriages occured in Rabapatona, Gyor County, Hungary - I could not find one single reference to cemeteries. Is there a site I can access and find listings for cemeteries in Hungary, especially the early 1830 - 1880 era. Thank you very much! Nadine
2010/04/28, 04:44:15
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jill: racz
looking for any one related to ilona racz bubelenyi.
ilona (helen ) racz was born sept 18 1872 in hungary .she married john bubelenyi came over 1903 with daughters julia racz ross,eva racz gratzol.and a son jozef bubelenyi.ilona had a brother george racz he was born july 15 1852.died in south bend in. their was another racz that married john bubelenyi daughter catherine .alexander racz he and catherine married moved to malhur city oregon .any one related to racz from south bend indiana
2010/08/23, 06:24:52
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jill: racz
looking for any one related to ilona racz bubelenyi.
ilona (helen ) racz was born sept 18 1872 in hungary .she married john bubelenyi came over 1903 with daughters julia racz ross,eva racz gratzol.and a son jozef bubelenyi.ilona had a brother george racz he was born july 15 1852.died in south bend in. their was another racz that married john bubelenyi daughter catherine .alexander racz he and catherine married moved to malhur city oregon .any one related to racz from south bend indiana
2010/08/23, 06:24:58
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jill: racz
looking for any one related to ilona racz bubelenyi.
ilona (helen ) racz was born sept 18 1872 in hungary .she married john bubelenyi came over 1903 with daughters julia racz ross,eva racz gratzol.and a son jozef bubelenyi.ilona had a brother george racz he was born july 15 1852.died in south bend in. their was another racz that married john bubelenyi daughter catherine .alexander racz he and catherine married moved to malhur city oregon .any one related to racz from south bend indiana
2010/08/23, 06:25:04
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jill: racz
looking for any one related to ilona racz bubelenyi.
ilona (helen ) racz was born sept 18 1872 in hungary .she married john bubelenyi came over 1903 with daughters julia racz ross,eva racz gratzol.and a son jozef bubelenyi.ilona had a brother george racz he was born july 15 1852.died in south bend in. their was another racz that married john bubelenyi daughter catherine .alexander racz he and catherine married moved to malhur city oregon .any one related to racz from south bend indiana
2010/08/23, 06:25:06
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jill: racz
looking for any one related to ilona racz bubelenyi.
ilona (helen ) racz was born sept 18 1872 in hungary .she married john bubelenyi came over 1903 with daughters julia racz ross,eva racz gratzol.and a son jozef bubelenyi.ilona had a brother george racz he was born july 15 1852.died in south bend in. their was another racz that married john bubelenyi daughter catherine .alexander racz he and catherine married moved to malhur city oregon .any one related to racz from south bend indiana
2010/08/23, 06:25:44
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nadine: Re: racz
The Racz I did research on are from South Bend, Indiana. Anna Agnes Racz married Emery Andrew Kertai in South Bend. Both Anna and her husband are from Rabapatona, Gyor, Hungary. Now there was another RACZ family that settled in South Bend, Indiana and I have been trying for years to see if there was a connection, but the people doing the research were not interested in sharing. I will give you any and all the information you wish to have.
Anna Agnes Racz did have a sister from Rabapatona. Nadine
2010/08/23, 15:20:01
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arenkee: bela racz
We are trying tot find a prescription of the live of
Bela Racz. He lived some years in Holland, he was an artist and he mades the European flag.
He dies 15 or 16 years ago in The Hagua. Perhaps someone
knew him. Thanks for your attention.
2010/08/26, 19:49:31
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Csilla: Re: Keresés ...
Kedves József! Az én nagymamám Rácz Rozália, húga Rácz Zsuzsanna szintén Zala megyei. Sárvár, Ostffyasszonyfa és környékén éltek. Tekenye sincs túl messze. Úgy tudom, hogy ők szerb származásúak. Üdv.: Kereszti Csilla
2010/12/07, 12:38:11
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Rácz László: keresgélek
Dédapám Rácz Antal 1888-ban született, Budapesten élt. Apja Rácz Sándor, anyja Farkas Karolina. Eddig sajnos csak ennyit tudok róluk. Itt is leírom, hátha.... :-)

Üdv: Rácz László

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Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2011/03/14, 17:26:21
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nadine: Re: keresgélek
Racz Anton, b.11 Apr 1889 Rabapatona, wife, Agnes Horvath, apa: Istvan Racz (1858?) es Marie Kaloczi (1864), Rabapatona.
2011/03/15, 02:54:13
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nadine: Re: keresgélek
Racz Anton, b.11 Apr 1889 Rabapatona, wife, Agnes Horvath, apa: Istvan Racz (1858?) es Marie Kaloczi (1864), Rabapatona.
2011/03/15, 02:54:23
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nadine: Re: keresgélek
Racz Anton, b.11 Apr 1889 Rabapatona, wife, Agnes Horvath, apa: Istvan Racz (1858?) es Marie Kaloczi (1864), Rabapatona.
2011/03/15, 02:54:30
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hugoapi: Keresem ...
Rácz Mihály és Flórián Anna gyermeke volt a nyagyapám Rácz József, aki született 1892 évben Tekenyén. A család többi tagjait, leszármazottakat keresem.

Rácz József
2011/03/15, 08:08:00
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hugoapi: I'm looking for ...
Florian, Michael and Ann Racz was a child nyagyapám József Rácz, who was born in the year 1892 Tekenyén. The other family members, looking for descendants.

József Rácz
2011/03/15, 08:21:33
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Rácz László: Re: keresés-kérés
Kedves Berekméri Árpád Róbert!

Nagyapám (Rácz Antal (szül: 1888.03.09, lakott Budapest VII. Bethlen u. 11)esküvőjén (1914.04.16)tanuként vett részt Rácz Imre Nagyvárad Keskeny u. 15-i lakos, valószínű rokon. Van-e rá lehetőség, hogy ezen a szálon továbbmenjek?

Tisztelettel: Rácz László Mezőkovácsháza
2011/03/15, 15:50:48
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Berekméri Árpád-Róbert: Re: keresés-kérés
Tisztelt Uram!

Sajnos én nem foglalkozom családfával. Hadtörténész vagyok és Rácz Károlyt is ebből a megközelítésből kerestem. Tiszt volt a II. vh.-ban.
Sajnálom, de nem tudok segíteni!
Üdvözlettel,
Berekméri Róbert
2011/03/15, 19:54:40
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 Racz - Nagyszenas fórumban: milly: Re: felmenő
Gizus: Re: RACZ Janos
Eric, your father is my mother's brother!! You have two aunties and an uncle and lots of cousins. I am one of them. I was looking for you Eric! Hope to get in touch soon! Gizus
2012/03/07, 10:22:51
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Gizus: Re: RACZ Janos
Hi again Eric, it's your cousin here....you know, my mum was searching for her brother, your dad for many many years. Can't wait to hear from you!!!!! Gizus
2012/03/07, 10:28:56
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hi Nadine, my name is Nadine. My grandmother nee Anna racz, grandfather erno bedo. My great uncle, laszo racz. Only recently looking into fam tree. Inexperienced. Many emmigrated to us but above mentioned to new Zealand. My sister called ilona Maria... Lots of connections.... Nadine...email me if you are still researching... All the best....nadine
2012/03/09, 07:24:46
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai
Hi Nadine, my name is Nadine. My grandmother nee Anna racz, grandfather erno bedo. My great uncle, laszo racz. Only recently looking into fam tree. Inexperienced. Many emmigrated to us but above mentioned to new Zealand. My sister called ilona Maria... Lots of connections.... Nadine...email me if you are still researching... All the best....nadine
2012/03/09, 07:29:43
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hello, Nadine
I do have some Racz descendents that the given names sound familiar. It would be God's plan if we can find a connection and also carry the same given name, "Nadine" = I will look at my family tree and reply by tomorrow. Blessings, Nadine
2012/03/09, 13:05:12
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hello, Nadine
I do have some Racz descendents that the given names sound familiar. It would be God's plan if we can find a connection and also carry the same given name, "Nadine" = I will look at my family tree and reply by tomorrow. Blessings, Nadine
2012/03/09, 13:05:25
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hello, Nadine
I do have some Racz descendents that the given names sound familiar. It would be God's plan if we can find a connection and also carry the same given name, "Nadine" = I will look at my family tree and reply by tomorrow. Blessings, Nadine
2012/03/09, 13:05:37
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hello, Nadine
I do have some Racz descendents that the given names sound familiar. It would be God's plan if we can find a connection and also carry the same given name, "Nadine" = I will look at my family tree and reply by tomorrow. Blessings, Nadine
2012/03/09, 13:05:53
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hi Nadine. Yes indeed that would be special. Not familiar with this forum re my family history so will wait your reply, hope we have family connection and can put pieces together. Nadine.
2012/03/10, 09:21:14
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nadine: Re: Racz Kertai from Nadine in USA
Hi Nadine. Yes indeed that would be special. Not familiar with this forum re my family history so will wait your reply, hope we have family connection and can put pieces together. Nadine.
2012/03/10, 09:21:20
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atya55
Van egy ilyen információm 1914-ből. Budapesti anyakönyvön esküvői tanú Rácz Imre Nagyvárad, Keskeny u. 11. Ezeket a Ráczokat keresném...
Üdv: Rácz László

2012/03/18, 18:44:23
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andor49
udv:atya55!

El e meg valaki Nagyvaradon a keresett ""Racz"" csaladbol??
A Keskeny utca mai neve ""Tarcaului""-parhuzamosan megy a valamikori ""SZELES'' utcaval!!



WA
2012/03/18, 19:54:01
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andor49
udv:atya55!

El e meg valaki Nagyvaradon a keresett ""Racz"" csaladbol??
A Keskeny utca mai neve ""Tarcaului""-parhuzamosan megy a valamikori ""SZELES'' utcaval!!



WA
2012/03/18, 19:54:18
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andor49
udv:atya55!

El e meg valaki Nagyvaradon a keresett ""Racz"" csaladbol??
A Keskeny utca mai neve ""Tarcaului""-parhuzamosan megy a valamikori ""SZELES'' utcaval!!



WA
2012/03/18, 19:54:21
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atya55
Kedves Andor!
Sajnos semmilyen egyéb információm nincsen ezen az anyakönyvi lapon kívül. Itt elakadtam.
Üdv: Rácz László

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2012/03/18, 20:09:28
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andor49
Tisztelt Racz Ur!!! Jelenleg a Nagyvaradi leveltar koltozik valoszinu,hogy 4-5 honapot eltart!?Ahogy kinyit megyek,nagyon nagy kesesbe vagyok,ha ezzel a RACZ csaladal kapcsolatba barmi eszebe jut kerem irja meg(vallas,gyerekek,foglalkozas-barmi) talan tudok segiteni?

Udv.WA
2012/03/18, 20:31:16
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atya55
Köszönöm Andor! A nagyszülők reformátusok voltak, feltételezhető, hogy a rokonság is. Javaslom, ha nem gond Önnek, közvetlen email, ne untassuk a többieket.
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üdv: rácz
2012/03/19, 08:52:20
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Racz Erika
Kedves Andor!


Most áprilisban akartam a nagyváradi levéltárban kutatni. Ezek szerint a költözés miatt ez nem lehetséges. Értesítene a fórumban, ha újra megnyílik a lehetőség a kutatásra?

Üdvözlettel,

Rácz Erika
2012/03/30, 15:22:40
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Racz Erika
Tisztelt Rácz Úr!


Nem tudja véletlenül, hogy az említett Rácz Imrének hogy hívták a feleségét?

Az én Rácz őseim Borsról (Rácz Imre - házastársa.:Szendrei Ágnes) (10 km van Nagyváradtól), illetve Rácz Imre dédapám (felesége: Ferenczi Julianna) költözése miatt Hegyközszentimréről származnak.

Üdvözlettel,


Rácz Erika
2012/03/30, 15:27:33
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andor49
Kedves ERIKA!-termeszetesen szolok,ha kinyit a leveltar!!!Kulomben foldrajzilag szomszedok vagyunk!!!Tel:0772o18748 RDS


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2012/03/30, 16:20:43
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atya55
Kedves Erika!
Sajnos csak a fentebb leírt adatok állnak rendelkezésemre. Dédapám Rácz Sándor, felesége Farkas Karolina. Ők már az 1914-es Rácz Antal nagyapám budapesti házasságkötésénél nem éltek, ott volt egyik tanu Rácz Imre (feltehetőleg rokon)Nagyvárad Keskeny u. 15.
Üdv: Rácz László
2012/04/10, 14:41:20
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Mykal: Racz/Sebestyran/Valentin
Hi I am trying to find out about my great grandfather and have very little information. He died before i was born. So he goes..
Joseph Racz (Ratz) married to Anna Valentin. Had Karl and Josepha that was born in Presburg, Hungry. Then they came to America in about 1910 or 11 . Then they had tow more children, Anton and Anna. His wife died and her cousin Theresa Sebestyran from Shultern, Hungary came to America to help raise Anna's children. Then they got married and had two children, James and Frank(my grandfather). All i know joseph serves in Austria war. his parent named Anton racz and Rosile Walker. Thersia Parent name joseph and ? Sebestyran, which own a bakery that she bake stuff. Theresia was excellent cook. (luvs her food when i grew up) i was hoping to trace Joseph 's brother or family along with his spouse's family too. I have hard time with it due to I heard that city is no longer in Hungry and it was change to Chez... or to Soliva ( my spelling is bad and not sure of it ) I appreciated if someone there in Hungry or close to it would help me grow my family tree. I will try to learn their language...it would be difficult due to i am deaf and not able to understand what saying. I thank you for taking the time to help. Thanks!
2012/04/21, 15:23:09
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Zlatica : Re: Racz/Sebestyran/Valentin
Mykal

Presburg,[German name] Pozsony [Hungarian] Pozsony megye, Hungary http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/pozsony.jpg
is
Bratislava, Slovakia
1773 Posonium, Posony, Presburg, Pressporek, 1786 Preßburg, Posony, Pressporek, Posonium, Pisonium, 1808 Posonium, Posony, Pozsony, Preßburg, Pressporek, 1863, 1877–1913 Pozsony, 1873 Poson, 1920– Bratislava [all the names this city was known by]

An ALL site for research in Slovakia
www.iabsi.com/gen/public

https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/

Racz, Karoly Poszonygilet Hungary 3 1910 1913
source: www.ellisislandrecords.org

http://boards.ancestry.com/surnames.racz/mb.ashx
http://genforum.genealogy.com/slovak/
http://genforum.genealogy.com/sebestyen/

RACZs in Bratislava's phone book:
http://www.zoznam.sk/hladaj.fcgi?co=telzoznam&s=racz&mesto=bratislava&ulica=&psc=&uto=&net_fixed=1&net_mobile=1&net_alt=1
2012/04/21, 15:47:32
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Zlatica : Re: Racz/Sebestyran/Valentin
Mykal

http://boards.ancestry.com/localities.ceeurope.hungary.general/9042/mb.ashx
2012/04/21, 15:59:05
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Zlatica : Re: Sebestyan
Mykal

Sebestyan, Theresa Misered, Hungary 24 1897 1921 She is going to brother-in-law Josef RATZ, Dayton, OH.' place of birth Denesd [?] left PFEFFER Elisabeth in Denesd.

Nové Košariská: 1773 Misérdi, Mischdorff, 1786 Mischdorf, Mischérdi, 1808 Misérd, Mischdorf, 1863–1877 Misérdi, 1882–1913 Misérd, 1920–1945 Mischdorf, Misérd, 1945–1973 Nové Košariská. Presently this is Dunajska Luzna, Slovakia.

Jánošíková: 1773 Dienesdi, Schildtern, 1786 Dieneschdi, Schiltern, 1808 Dienesd, Schildern, 1863 Dienesd, Dinyesd, 1873–1882 Dénesdi, 1888–1913 Dénesd, 1920 Schildern, 1927–1948 Schildern, Dénesd, 1948–1973 Jánošíková

It would seem that "Shultern" is Schildtern - Janosikova, Slovakia and presently part of Dunajska Luzna, Slovakia.

https://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlc/

http://www.jewishgen.org/communities/loctown.asp
Dénesd, Jánošíková, Schildern populated place 48°05' N 17°15' E E M U G Slovakia 8.2 miles SE of Bratislava 48°9' N 17°7' E

Mischdorf, Misérdorf, Nové Košariská populated place 48°05' N 17°15' E E M U G Slovakia 7.8 miles ESE of Bratislava 48°9' N 17°7' E
2012/04/21, 18:39:55
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Mykal0211: Re: Sebestyan
Hi Zlatica!
Great for the information but only problem i am having is i can't read Hungry Language and trying to find translation is a bit hard for going back and forth with it. Yes Thersia Sebestyan Is the right one that went to Dayton...she is my great grandmother. Is there someone does genealogy work there and help visit to my relative that had somewhat made the tree history of the Racz, Sebestyan, and Valentin. I appreciated. All i know they own a Bakery and did some business before they came to USA. Josef Racz was in the Austria War. Looking up in Family search doesn't have my family in it to able to pinned down the family tree. I know due to his marriage license that Joseph's parent is Anton Racz and Rosline Walker. He had a brother named Michael who married to Barbara Best? and died in ohio too. Is Elizabeth Pfeffer, Thersia's Sister?? Please let me know...I need help with the language and the family tree. Thanks!
2012/04/23, 23:03:20
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Zlatica : Re: Sebestyan
You're welcome Mykal10211

For church headers www.bmi.net/jjaso
I too do not read or know Hungarian/Magyar language.
Not sure how good www.translate.google.com is but you can try.
You could hire a researcher in Slovakia or you could send out some letters to the ancestral villages.
You do know that you need to search the LDS-Mormons site by a location and then religion.
You might want to post on Slovakia's Ancestry and Genforum board for a wider exposure.
I have no way of knowing who is PFEFFER Elisabeth. I only read it on her NY Ellis Island arrival manifest.
PFEFFER does list in Dunajska Luzna's phone book.
http://www.zoznam.sk/hladaj.fcgi?co=telzoznam&s=pfeffer&mesto=dunajska luzna&ulica=&psc=&uto=&net_fixed=1&net_mobile=1&net_alt=1
2012/04/23, 23:32:42
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My Treasure: Re: racz
It was very interesting finding this information. My Mother was Helen I. Bubelenyi /1915-2007 and she married Alexander Racz in 9 Jan. 1909/ South Bend, Indiana.(BOTH were born in Hungary.
They had four children Alexander, Andrew, Helen, & Martha.& lost baby girl. They moved to Malhur, Oregon in early 1920's to the new homestead.
Helen parents were John Bubelenyi -11/June/1856
-in Csoka,Tovuntal, Hungary married Elizabeth Horvath-1858 and Catherine Bubelenyi was her mother 24, Nov.1890 died 12 April, 1963
Oh, I have loads of info. Just having trouble putting all the puzzle pieces together. Hope this helps.. sjb




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My Treasure: Re: racz
Just to confuse you more ... when Alexander and Catherine (Kate) moved from Youngstown, Ohio to eastern Malheur, Oregon. The name was changed to RACEY from RACZ. SJB

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2013/02/11, 07:30:11
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cjmiller: Re: Racz Kertai
My father was one of the Pajor boys raised by Anton. John Pajor was my dad. Anton was my mother, Mary Kertai Pajor's uncle. Mary is a daughter of Anna and Emre Kertai.
2013/02/12, 00:54:54
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