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NANCYLEE: Frank Stock
I am researching my great-grandfather, Frank Stock, who arrived in the U.S. on April 5, 1005 at Age 15 on the Grosser Kurfuerst, which sailed from Bremen. I have seen his home listed at Szilberek, or Szihborek, Hungary. He was of German descent.

He married Terezea Bruder of Pozega, Austria in Akron, Ohio, where they made their home.

I would welcome any clues about other family members.

2003/09/07, 22:17:23
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nancylee: MIHALY STERNTHAL
I am researching my great grandfather, Mihaly Sternthal, born December 24, 1881. He came to the U.S. approx. 1907. His residence has been listed as Bordas, or Bashordas. His wife, the former Anna Knebel and two children also emigrated from Hungary. In 1914, they returned for a visit, so there must have been other family members left behind.

I would welcome any possible information about other relatives.
2003/09/07, 22:25:02
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Stefan Wacker: Re: Frank Stock
Hallo,my name is Stefan Wacker I live in South Germany near
München.
I found the name Franz(Frank)Stock in the Family book of Backi Brestovac. Im born there.
Szilberek was the Hungarian Name of the Village. Since after the first world war it`s Backi Brestovac and ist nowdays in Serbia.
Your g grand Father was maried with a Wacker Katharina.
Katharina was a member of our family.
for more infomrmation send your email-adress
your sincerly

Stefan Wacker

Az üzenethez ez a kép is kapcsolódik.
Az eredeti méretben történõ megtekintéshez kattintson a képre!
2003/10/25, 02:55:35
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Stefaan Wacker: Re: Frank Stock
For information send your email-adress to
st.wacker -k-u-k-a-c- t-online -p-o-n-t- de
2003/10/25, 03:37:17
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Zlatica : Re: Frank Stock
Franz STOCK's manifest says that he was from Szilberek.
The village of Szilberek is in the old Bacs-Bodrog megye and at present in country of Yugoslavia.

The old 1910 Hungarian megye map is at :
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910

A good locator of a town when the name is from the old regime is :
www.jewishgen.org/ShtetlSeeker/loctown.htm is locating a Szilberek as being Brestovac Pozeski, Croatia.

www.genealogienetz.de/reg/ESE/dsinfo.htm
www.croatia-in-english.com/rj/index.html
2003/10/25, 04:26:02
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Zlatica : Re: MIHALY STERNTHAL
There were 19 STERNTHALs that passed thru Ellis Island and few of them were from Bacsordas.
This village is also in the old Bacs-Bodrog megye.

The LDS-Mormons (Family History Center) have filmed church records of several European countries so check out their website for possible films which you can order and gather ancestral information.

In 1914 they were visiting a mother, mother-in-law and grandmother, Sternthal, Kata in Bacsordas.
2003/10/25, 04:36:06
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Nancy Fredenberg: Re: MIHALY STERNTHAL
Dear Zlatica: Thank you for your response to my posting. I have been using the Ellis Island website for some time now, but I did not find the information you provided there regarding whom my family members were visiting in 1914. You stated they were visiting Kata Sternthal. Can you tell me the source of this information so I can document it?
2003/10/26, 19:21:30
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 Stock - Backi_brestovac fórumban: Nancy Fredenberg: Stock Family
Zlatica : Re: MIHALY STERNTHAL
The information was on the Ellis Island manifest.
Some manifest have two pages to them so you have to look at both pages for the information.
2003/10/26, 19:46:52
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Backi Brestovac: Re: Frank Stock
Nancy Lee

Are the Wackers in your family line?
Is Frank the son of Frank Stock 1859 and Franziska 1861.


E-mail me.

Mary Ann

2005/01/15, 00:57:40
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Backi Brestovac: Re: Frank Stock
Please email me to share Stock information.
Mary Ann
2005/09/11, 01:32:01
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Nancy Fredenberg: Re: Frank Stock
Dear Maryann,

In January, you and I corresponded several times and you gave me much appreciated info on my Stock Family. I got your new message on my e-mail. Do you have new info? In any case, I couldn't locate your e-mail address and would like to have it in case I find anything new to send back to you. Drop me a line!

Nancy Fredenberg
Lauderhill, FL
2005/09/11, 05:25:58
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William Kover: Re: Frank Stock
Nancy Lee:
I believe we are related. My maternal grandmother was Teresa Bruder (Maiden name Munz). My maternal grandfather was Joseph Nicholas Bruder. They emigrated from Szilberek/Backi Bresttovac. I think his sister was Teresa Bruder. I visited Akron, Ohio in 1962 with my uncle George Bruder and stayed with the Stock family. They had a daughter named Cynthia. I believe we ate dinner at the Sternthal's house.
2007/12/24, 18:26:49
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geraldsternthal: Re: MIHALY STERNTHAL
Hello I am looking for STERNTHAL family members from Hungary, Austria and Roumania. Its interesting that you mention Hungary and 1881 as the birth date. I think we could be relatives. Please give me some more information. Since the borders changed hands frequently its important to be precise about the dates and the appropiate country .
Sincerely,
Gerald Sternthal
2008/06/29, 19:56:17
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William Kover: Re: MIHALY STERNTHAL
Gerald:
Yes we are related. My maternal grandfather's name was Joseph Nicholas Bruder. Your great grandmother was my grandfather's sister. In case you aren't already aware of these ladies, I am forwarding this also to Nancy
Fredenberg and Mary Ann Fischer who have a lot of ancestral information.

Bill Kover
P.S. - I visited your great grandparents in Akron the summer of 1962 along with my Uncle George Bruder.
2008/06/29, 21:42:35
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William Kover: Re: Frank Stock
Nancy Lee Fredenberg:
Did you changed your email address? I've been sending out information to everyone on my list including you. However, all the emails sent to you came back saying "Delivery Notification: Delivery has failed". This has been going on for several months. I just remembered this site as a possible way to contact you.
2009/03/08, 21:48:04
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levari: Re: Frank Stock
I am Sternthal. We are from eastern europe, was romania, now moldova. our village was wiped out by Ion Antonescu, a little known butcher and murderer, under the orders of the then Russian red army. The village of Khotin was sepearated by the Dinester River, the rich families on the south side, the poor families on the north. This was a mixed village of Jews, Gypsies and Christian Armenians, all were targeted by the cossacks and my grandfather told me that unlike in other villages the people of all races were banded together so they mixed socially andvery openly. Most of the rich families stayed behind, while the poor families left between the wars. My grandfather told me he knew the family of the painter Arshile Gorky quite well and they were all quite artistic. His name was Jacob Sternthal, left for America, though he did not pass through Ellis Island, but first to London with his sister and then on to Philadelphia, PA, emigrating officially in 1919. Many Sternthals now reside in Montreal, Canada, having emigrated in around St. Urban street, orginally. Now most of my family lives in the North East corridor, between Philadelphia and New York, and a few live in Los Angeles.

Sternthal translates in "Star Valley," while it seems German or Prussian, it could also be Yiddish. There is a town in Germany known as Sternthal, and a muslim city in northern India known as "Saintthal." My mother's family is Sephardic and most of my family looks Southern Spanish or North African going back many generations. We have, for the most part, married within the Jewish community so there's been little variation to this rule, as far as I know and I believe, based on the photographs we have going back to what was then Romania that this is what the family from our area of the world looked like.

I haven not seen the name "Stock" in our records, but it certainly seems a viable "americanized" mutation of Sternthal having come through Ellis Island, as Americanizing names seemed to be the norm.

Hope this helps.

Best,
Levari
2009/12/09, 13:08:42
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levari: Re: Frank Stock
By the way, if any Sternthal wishes to contact me further about this or any other information I would be happy to respond with whatever further information I have. The town of Khotin Romania is definitely a good place to research as my grandfather had a very lucid mind until he died in his mid 90's (we believe) and had very clear memories from his childhood which he told me. He spoke 8 languages fluently as it was a necessity for survival.

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2009/12/09, 13:20:10
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Astock: Re: Frank Stock
Hi my name is albert stock my grandfather was also albert his dad was Robert and his dad was frank not sure if there is a connection , however we do reside in Ohio
2010/03/18, 00:45:55
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poeffler: Re: Frank Stock
I just recently was able to trace (via ellis island records) my great grandfather's name to "Szilberek Austria". After reading subsequent blogs several blogger have the village being in South Germany, Yogoslovia, Servia and Hungary....Were you ever able to determine where it was located around 1910 and where it is located today?
2010/06/21, 17:36:04
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ma1fisch1: Re: Frank Stock
Please email me and I can supply you with answers to your questions. ma1fisch1 -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- com
2010/06/21, 17:47:57
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Zlatica : Re: Frank Stock
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http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/digkonyv/topo/3felmeres.htm
Brestowatz
Village Names:
German: Brestowatz, Ulmenau, Ulmen-Hain
Official: Brestovac
Hungarian: Szilberek
Spelling and/or dialect variants: Batsch-Brestowatz, Szilvás, Backi Brestovac
Location:
Country: Yugoslavia
near Kula
Postal-Code:
Railroad station:
Population:
1921: 5,192 (4,400)
1910: 5,425 (4,332)
1880: 4,400 (3,139)
Genealogical Records:
Village name in FHL records: Bresztovacz
Church records available at FHL: 1826 - 1895
FHL Microfilm Nr.: 605892; 639099 - 639102
FHL Census Microfilm: Brestovatz in 1828: 622963
Bibliography
Earliest Appearance in History: 1543
Earliest German Settlement: 1786
Churches: Roman Catholic/Kalocsa diocese, Greek Orthodox/Bacs diocese, Jewish
District: 3 - Apatin
Brestowatz was the location of a prisoner camp for Germans held by Partisans during World War II.


2010/06/21, 19:56:39
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ma1fisch1: Re: Frank Stock
what was your great-grandfather's name and perhaps date of birth?

2010/06/21, 20:09:24
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ma1fisch1: Re: Frank Stock
what was your great-grandfather's name and perhaps date of birth?

2010/06/21, 20:09:30
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ma1fisch1: Re: Frank Stock
what was your great-grandfather's name and perhaps date of birth?

2010/06/21, 20:09:38
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Zlatica: Re: Szilberek, Bacs-Bodrog m.
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Szilberek, Bacs-Bodrog megye, Hungary
http://lazarus.elte.hu/hun/maps/1910/bacsbod.jpg
is now Backi Brestovac, Serbia
Silberg, Bački Brestovac, Szilberek, Bácsbresztovácz, Batsch-Brestowatz, Ulmenau populated place 45°37' N 19°16' E E M U G Serbia 80.3 miles NW of Beograd 44°49' N 20°28' E
http://atlas.mapquest.com/maps/map.adp?searchtype=address&formtype=latlong&latlongtype=decimal&latitude=45.6172&longitude=19.2697&size=big
Stock, Franz Szilberek 44 1861 1905
Stock, Johann Szilberek 16 1889 1905
Stok, Ferencz Szilberek 15 1891 1906
Stock, Anna Szihborek, Austria 17 1893 1910
2010/06/21, 20:26:38
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ma1fisch1: Re: Szilberek, Bacs-Bodrog m.
http://wc.rootsweb.ancestry.com/cgi-bin/igm.cgi?op=SHOW&db=brestowatz&surname=Stock, Franz

If you can make a connection to anyone on the above page,please email me at ma1fisch1 -k-u-k-a-c- yahoo -p-o-n-t- com
2010/06/21, 21:12:34
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poeffler: Re: Frank Stock
Found it before I noticed your reply thanks
2010/06/22, 03:28:44
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criss Miller: Re: Frank Stock
Hi,
I am not sure if you are at this same e-mail address but i have information about Frank Stock that you mention here.
He was my grandmothers brother..and was married to Theresa
Bruder..they lived in Akron, Ohio..
I have done research on Ancestry about my fathers mother
Anna Stock.i am trying to find out more about the family.
I would like to find out if my gr.grandparents Frank
and Francizka parents are buried in Austria...i know her
maiden name was Presentsky (not sure of spelling)..i would
like to go farther back to find out other great great grandparents from the Stock line..if you have any information i'd love to hear about it and i would be
glad to give you more information on anything i have on
frank and theresa bruder.
Thanks.
Criss/Ohio/USA
2010/11/23, 18:57:57
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caurus: Re: Frank Stock
Stock Stefan *1831 or 1834 Doroslo or Stapari 23.Februar.1890
1th marriage to Wacker Katharina *24.November.1835 04.Januar.1863

Children Katharina *02 Februar 1856 *05 März 1858
Anna *13 November !857 13 November 1857
Franz * 10 Februar 1859 03 Juni 1897
Stefan * 22 Januar 1861 05 April 1867
Katharina * 16 Oktober !862 16 November 1861
2th marriage to Petschner Marianna * 12 September 1837 * 12 November 1911
Children Josef * 12 August 1863
Johann 17 Oktober 1864 25 May 1873
Peter 07 Oktober1866 28 September 1873
Nikolaus * 19 November 1868 19 November 1871
Nikolaus *08 Januar 1871 10 September 1872
Eva * 24 Oktober 1873
Magdalena *25 May 1875


Stock Franz 10 Februar 1859 03 Juni 1897
married to Breschensky Franziska * 26 september 1861
Children Michael *09 Februar 1883 12 August 1883
Franz * 16 November 1890
twin Stefan * 18 August 1892 20 Dezember 1899
twin Maria * 18 August 1892 20.05 1893
Anna * 07 August 1894
Katharina *13 Oktober 1895
All the kids are born in Batsch Brestowatz
Look in youtube for Batsch Brestowatz

Regards

Stefan Wacker



2010/11/23, 20:36:12
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Criss Miller: Stock Lineage
Hello,
I have a another child to add that was born to:
Franz Stock (1859-1897) & Franziska Breschensky (1861)
They had another child by the name of Mihaly (Michael)
Stock..born in 1884..he was the 2nd oldest child but not
listed with them..he came to America in 1907 and lived in
and around the Akron, Ohio USA area..he had come to America
previously but came back to live permanently.
Anna his sister (my grandmother) was born 8 August, 1894
and died 27 Dec. 1986 in Randolph, Ohio USA.She was married
to Stephan Miller (Muller) from Hungary.

Their mother Franziska remarried to a man by the name of
Miklos (Michael) Eisele..i do not believe they had any
children but if so, and anyone would have any info. on
him, i would appreciate it..he was from the same town as she...

criss/Ohio/USA
2010/11/24, 14:43:42
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caurus: Re: Stock Lineage
Franziska Breschinsky Birth 26 Sept 1861 in Backi Brestovac
Death 10 Mar 1922 in Akron Ohio

1th Marriage to Michael Stock 14 Febr 1882 in BB
2th Marriage to Nikolaus Eisele 1 May 1902 in BB

Child Maria *22 Juni 1904 17 May 1919

Niklas was before married to Klara Gruber
they had 9 children.

3th Marriage to Stefan Fanz 7 May 1917 in ?

Michael Stock *24.24 Juni 1884 married to
Friedl Anna* 04 Dec 1881
in 29 Sept 1907 in BB


regards


Stefan


2010/11/24, 20:29:41
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Criss Miller: Re: Stock/Wacker Lineage
Hello ,
I was wondering if you had any information on my gr.gr.
grandparents lineage. My gr.gr's were : Stefan Stock (1831/1834 - 1890)
and his lst wife Katharina Wacker (1835//1863).


I would like to find out what their parents names were
and if they had any siblings.
I am curious to know if this Stock line has remained in
the same area of BB for generations.Would you also have
any idea of where they are buried, or if the cemeteries
would still be in existance?

Any information would be appreciated.
Thank you.
criss
2010/11/25, 14:35:37
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caurus: Re: Stock/Wacker Lineage
Hello Criss,
For more information give me your
e-mail adress.

st.wacker -k-u-k-a-c- t-online -p-o-n-t- de

mfg

Stefan
2010/11/25, 20:28:12
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